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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2022 17:45:00 GMT
What would you call it? It cannot be Labour's fault as some people say, Tories have been in power 12 years. We are spending billions putting migrants in hotels instead of spending that money on safe facilities and employing the necessary number of people to process them. All this crap about pushing the boats back, sending them to Rwanda or other countries is just that - crap, the Tories love giving nutters an enemy to focus on. Reality is accepting that what you are doing or not doing in this case is not working and doing something that will, not more of the same. Even Braverman says it is not working. Instead of carping, what do you have as a solution to the problem? If none, you mirror Starmer. Labour have clearly stated what they will do about immigration, not their fault if you won't listen.
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Post by Handyman on Nov 3, 2022 18:10:45 GMT
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Post by sandypine on Nov 3, 2022 18:12:21 GMT
Instead of carping, what do you have as a solution to the problem? If none, you mirror Starmer. Labour have clearly stated what they will do about immigration, not their fault if you won't listen. It seems to be a change in the law to allow anyone coming here to claim asylum the right to stay indefinitely. Is that right? They seem to support the numbers the Tories are letting in besides the small boats invasion flotilla. Is that right? They seem very relaxed about all levels of immigration. Is that right?
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Post by jonksy on Nov 3, 2022 18:24:10 GMT
And whatever the Tories attempt to do about this is thwarted by the loony left. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just excuse after excuse, the Tories could not draw a bath even if they have lots of crayons.😊 You couldn't find your own arse if you had a map. That's why it is served up on a plate for you so frequently.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2022 4:45:53 GMT
Labour have clearly stated what they will do about immigration, not their fault if you won't listen. It seems to be a change in the law to allow anyone coming here to claim asylum the right to stay indefinitely. Is that right? They seem to support the numbers the Tories are letting in besides the small boats invasion flotilla. Is that right? They seem very relaxed about all levels of immigration. Is that right? After processing each case would be finalised on individual cases. You cannot know if they are genuine asylum seekers unless you process them. Simple really.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2022 4:50:17 GMT
Yeah, yeah, yeah, just excuse after excuse, the Tories could not draw a bath even if they have lots of crayons.😊 You couldn't find your own arse if you had a map. That's why it is served up on a plate for you so frequently. How can you 'thwart' an 80-seat majority unless the 80-seat majority are breaking the law? The Tories create the laws, so the 'lefties' are following the law. Do you believe the Tories should 'deal' with the 'asylum problem' without scrutiny? Do you think there should be a final solution and just deport them all?
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Post by Toreador on Nov 4, 2022 8:13:07 GMT
It seems to be a change in the law to allow anyone coming here to claim asylum the right to stay indefinitely. Is that right? They seem to support the numbers the Tories are letting in besides the small boats invasion flotilla. Is that right? They seem very relaxed about all levels of immigration. Is that right? After processing each case would be finalised on individual cases. You cannot know if they are genuine asylum seekers unless you process them. Simple really. You can if they claim to be Iranian negroes who only speak Swahili.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2022 8:30:37 GMT
After processing each case would be finalised on individual cases. You cannot know if they are genuine asylum seekers unless you process them. Simple really. You can if they claim to be Iranian negroes who only speak Swahili. Do write other fiction?
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Post by Toreador on Nov 4, 2022 10:19:35 GMT
You can if they claim to be Iranian negroes who only speak Swahili. Do write other fiction? Sad that you don't think things like that ever happen. I could say welcome top the real world but I think it would frighten you.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2022 13:08:09 GMT
I saw a report that members of the public are mistaking migrant children in hotels as adults. That is because the migrants lie about their ages. The authorities do not apply common sense, but the general public still have some. When they challenge the lise they might get somewhere. I think Toreador is alluding to that?
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Post by Toreador on Nov 4, 2022 15:36:27 GMT
I saw a report that members of the public are mistaking migrant children in hotels as adults. That is because the migrants lie about their ages. The authorities do not apply common sense, but the general public still have some. When they challenge the lise they might get somewhere. I think Toreador is alluding to that? No I was referring to migrants who claim to be from a different country to where they were residents. If they admitted they were from a safe country, they'd be returned, so they claim they are from the EU or they claim they're from a country where they would be persecuted.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2022 15:58:38 GMT
I saw a report that members of the public are mistaking migrant children in hotels as adults. That is because the migrants lie about their ages. The authorities do not apply common sense, but the general public still have some. When they challenge the lise they might get somewhere. I think Toreador is alluding to that? No I was referring to migrants who claim to be from a different country to where they were residents. If they admitted they were from a safe country, they'd be returned, so they claim they are from the EU or they claim they're from a country where they would be persecuted. Yes, because they are lying criminals, like the ones who say they are children. The the human rights types say we shouldn't have them medically checked by checking their teeth and length of beards.
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Post by dappy on Nov 4, 2022 16:00:11 GMT
Toreador is right that some people claiming asylum may not tell the truth about their nationality. Most do but some do not. We have systems in place now to quickly test that not just by headline language but also dialect and accent.
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Post by Toreador on Nov 4, 2022 16:10:14 GMT
No I was referring to migrants who claim to be from a different country to where they were residents. If they admitted they were from a safe country, they'd be returned, so they claim they are from the EU or they claim they're from a country where they would be persecuted. Yes, because they are lying criminals, like the ones who say they are children. The the human rights types say we shouldn't have them medically checked by checking their teeth and length of beards. One of the times when they are found out is when they can't speak the language of the country they came from.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 4, 2022 16:17:48 GMT
No I was referring to migrants who claim to be from a different country to where they were residents. If they admitted they were from a safe country, they'd be returned, so they claim they are from the EU or they claim they're from a country where they would be persecuted. Yes, because they are lying criminals, like the ones who say they are children. The the human rights types say we shouldn't have them medically checked by checking their teeth and length of beards. Sevaral news outlets were stating the same. Its seems stating the opposite works as well.
Child asylum seekers say UK officials pressed them to lie about their age
Boy recorded telling guard he was told he could move from Manston holding centre more quickly if he said he was over 18
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