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Post by Orac on Aug 13, 2023 10:55:16 GMT
The strategy is to flood the UK with unmanageable quantities until a policy of mass amnesty through citisenship can be implemented - and In the mean time use as much electoral fraud as is sensible and wave away concerns.
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 13, 2023 10:57:54 GMT
The strategy is to flood the UK with unmanageable quantities until a policy of mass amnesty through citisenship can be implemented - and In the mean time use as much electoral fraud as is sensible and wave away concerns. well you cannot say they are not being open about it..  |
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Post by sheepy on Aug 13, 2023 11:05:42 GMT
They hate you, but love illegal immigrants who on the whole also hate you. Cannot be fairer than that.
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Post by Orac on Aug 13, 2023 11:22:47 GMT
The strategy is to flood the UK with unmanageable quantities until a policy of mass amnesty through citisenship can be implemented - and In the mean time use as much electoral fraud as is sensible and wave away concerns. well you cannot say they are not being open about it.. Unless you factor in their actual aims, their behavior looks entirely berserk. - ie any level of mental acrobatics and bizarre , popularity defying stances to get 'more in' at any cost and the bare-faced refusal to be realistic and balance the wishes of the UK public . All of these political concerns are subsidiary to 'getting in' as many people as possible so the UK public can be refused any option and democracy can be neutered. |
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Post by wapentake on Aug 13, 2023 11:30:46 GMT
The strategy is to flood the UK with unmanageable quantities until a policy of mass amnesty through citisenship can be implemented - and In the mean time use as much electoral fraud as is sensible and wave away concerns. well you cannot say they are not being open about it.. # I consistently voted for the Iraq and defended it for a time saying she had no regrets,so labours pantomime principal boy wants to right her wrong by allowing Iraqis and others the right of free entry. |
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Post by jonksy on Aug 13, 2023 11:31:01 GMT
well you cannot say they are not being open about it.. Unless you factor in their actual aims, their behavior looks entirely berserk. - ie any level of mental acrobatics and bizarre , popularity defying stances to get 'more in' at any cost and the bare-faced refusal to be realistic and balance the wishes of the UK public . All of these political concerns are subsidiary to 'getting in' as many people as possible so the UK public can be refused any option and democracy can be neutered. She doesn't exactly look like the intelligent type does she? That seems to be the norm for the woke loony left. Look at abacus and the other so called labour women... |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2023 11:31:17 GMT
Economic migrants who seek asylum are covered by the same process as genuine asylum seekers and some are also murderers fleeing justice. Seek changes to the 1951 convention to eradicate loopholes which economic migrants are exploiting. And replace the 1998 Human Rights Act with a better but ECHR compliant bill of rights which cannot be exploited by illegal economic migrants. Too many people are dying, and the status quo is not doing enough to save lives. Additionally, France and other countries need to start to licence the sale of rigid hull inflatable boats and other seaworthy craft with reasons for ownership and references. That way sales go on a register. Smugglers are easier to identify and put out of business. You are right if they come here and claim asylum they are indeed covered by the same rights but dumping the ECHR is not the way to go. It would be easier and less costly the process their claims and sort out who is who and the validity of their claim. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2023 11:32:09 GMT
The strategy is to flood the UK with unmanageable quantities until a policy of mass amnesty through citisenship can be implemented - and In the mean time use as much electoral fraud as is sensible and wave away concerns. Conspiracy theory. |
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Post by Handyman on Aug 13, 2023 11:42:11 GMT
It's not rocket science, they have chucked all their IDs overboard on the way here, do you honestly expect the HO to approve applications when they have no idea who these boat people are.
So what happens when terrorist blow us to bits, the likes of you and the Labour hypocrites will be demanding to know and want answers why they were granted asylum in the UK.
I don't care if their applications take forever, the safety our people is paramount, and only stupid idiotic halfwits would want the process speeding up FFS.
All of them? Even the ones coming through 'legal' channels? Why would anyone arriving in the UK legally with the correct paperwork throw away their Travel Documents ? FFS If their intention is to claim Asylum on their arrival producing their Documents ID etc would make their application easier to process |
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Post by Orac on Aug 13, 2023 11:45:03 GMT
The strategy is to flood the UK with unmanageable quantities until a policy of mass amnesty through citisenship can be implemented - and In the mean time use as much electoral fraud as is sensible and wave away concerns. Conspiracy theory. Don't be daft. A conspiracy theory involves an unwarranted extrapolation from facts. The only reasonable explanation drawn from known facts, can't really be a 'conspiracy theory'. |
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Aug 13, 2023 11:50:59 GMT
TB has been mentioned. Here's a fact ... homeless people are a hundred times more likely to contract it than people leading stable lives This fact was publicised in relation to a report about treatment resistant TB (a "superbug"). Google search: Emergence of Potential Superbug Mycobacterium Tuberculosis www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3523789/The hotel I stayed in that catered for the homeless had had a TB case prior to my staying there. |
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Post by Handyman on Aug 13, 2023 11:53:56 GMT
Don't be daft. A conspiracy theory involves an unwarranted extrapolation from facts. The only reasonable explanation drawn from known facts, can't really be a 'conspiracy theory'. Be kind to him he is Daft  |
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Post by johnofgwent on Aug 13, 2023 14:15:40 GMT
you misunderstsnd the agenda. In wales every one of them has a vote and they wont be voting tory will they. Pembroke is a tory marginal why do you think twatford shipped liads of illegals to a former RAF base there ?? I understand perfectly, and stupid Drakeford spouting off about giving them all £1600 a month for doing fuck all has sealed his own fate, he's stepping down at the next election, the problem being, he will only be replaced by another lefty woke snowflake, possibly even worse than him. the incompetent mincing arse who was given a helping hand in the form of another minister to do their job as he admitted he was unable to is current favourite. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Aug 13, 2023 14:19:52 GMT
Its the same in Londonistan thanks to the clown Khan. They can't vote in the GE through refugee status. Only British citizens can vote. So they would also have to gain citizenship. www.gov.uk/elections-in-the-ukat the moment that is so. But Starmer is on record as saying he wants to follow wankford by giving children the vote. How long before they follow wankford’s example and enfranchise criminals just off the boats ? |
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Post by thomas on Aug 13, 2023 14:33:54 GMT
They can't vote in the GE through refugee status. Only British citizens can vote. So they would also have to gain citizenship. www.gov.uk/elections-in-the-ukat the moment that is so. But Starmer is on record as saying he wants to follow wankford by giving children the vote. How long before they follow wankford’s example and enfranchise criminals just off the boats ? if you mean children as in 16 17 year olds , scotland and wales , along with germany , estonia , malta and austria and greece for 17 year olds grant young adults the vote in some or all elections. While there is an argument for and against allowing foreigners votes , i personally fully support 16 17 year olds voting based on the evidence i have read where various studies show they actively engage in democracy more than the 18 24 year old age group .
On top of that , more and more countires are exploring allowing them a vote. so rather than drakeford being an outlier , he seems to be in touch with a growing trend worldwide. I believe some of the latin american countires do the same john.
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