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Post by zanygame on Aug 10, 2023 17:08:01 GMT
Yes you are wrong. You said Dan agreed with you. He didn't. Even you must be able to read that well. I can read the FACT that your side haven't a bloody clue and are just bleading heart virtual signallers. But not the ability to admit when you are wrong. |
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Post by jonksy on Aug 10, 2023 17:11:03 GMT
I can read the FACT that your side haven't a bloody clue and are just bleading heart virtual signallers. So when are going to admit that you are then zany? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 10, 2023 17:18:02 GMT
Maybe the bleading hearts would like to point out the women and children in this pic of this dross running for their lives from war torn frogland.
fuck sake, does it get any worse. |
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Post by jonksy on Aug 10, 2023 17:20:01 GMT
Maybe the bleading hearts would like to point out the women and children in this pic of this dross running for their lives from war torn frogland.
It will if labour get in mate. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 10, 2023 17:20:02 GMT
I could pinpoint which ones are the criminals evading their own countries justice system, palming every undesirable criminal under the sun into the UK.
The lefty mob have a lot to answer for, and blood on their hands.
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 10, 2023 17:33:19 GMT
On the day when the number of migrants 'rescued' in the the Channel by His Majesty's Coastguard and the RNLI reaches the momentous figure of 100,000, does anyone remember this? [emphasis added]
Mediterranean Sea
Question Asked by Lord Hylton
To ask Her Majesty’s Government what naval or air-sea rescue contribution they will make to prevent refugees and migrants drowning in the Mediterranean. [HL1977]
The Minister of State, Foreign and Commonwealth Office (Baroness Anelay of St Johns) (Con): We do not support planned search and rescue operations in the Mediterranean. We believe that they create an unintended “pull factor”, encouraging more migrants to attempt the dangerous sea crossing and thereby leading to more tragic and unnecessary deaths. The Government believes the most effective way to prevent refugees and migrants attempting this dangerous crossing is to focus our attention on countries of origin and transit, as well as taking steps to fight the people smugglers who wilfully put lives at risk by packing migrants into unseaworthy boats.
Lords Hansard, 15 October 2014
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Post by Handyman on Aug 10, 2023 17:33:47 GMT
The conditions on the barge look quite good to say the least, if anyone has stayed in B&B's in UK seaside towns of the 50's and 60's and later the conditions and rules when you had to be in by were far worse and you had to pay for it.
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 10, 2023 17:34:46 GMT
There has to be a 'Group litigation Order', any UK citizen who becomes a victim of crime because of a illegal migrants now have legal rights ...
A group litigation order (or GLO) is an order of a court in England and Wales, which permits a number of claims which give rise to common or related issues (of fact or law) to be managed collectively
Let us use them.
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Post by zanygame on Aug 10, 2023 17:41:48 GMT
But not the ability to admit when you are wrong. So when are going to admit that you are then zany? I wasn't. And everyone who can read knows it. Poor effort Jonsky. Are you really so weak you can't admit when you are wrong? That's very sad. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2023 17:58:41 GMT
Is your reasoning just based on the small boats? No, my reasoning is based on the fact that legislation made 70 years ago in the shadow of WW2, is 'obviously' not fit for purpose today. There have always been a few people calling for our extradition from the convention but it appears to be now and because of immigration that the call is being intensified. At the end of WW2 there were millions of displaced people and the ECHR went someway to protecting their rights. Today there are millions of displaced people due to wars, drought, famine and prejudices, why is now different? In fact it would appear to be just as relevant today as it was then. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 10, 2023 18:09:27 GMT
Do you believe that an updated convention would stop the UK being a source of asylum for refugees? Do you believe that countries not covered by the ECHR do not take in asylum seekers? Of course I don’t, which was why I was asking Jonksy. For some strange reason he can't answer the question, so I've drawn my own conclusion. |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 10, 2023 19:43:52 GMT
A bit like the second ammendment Red. It doesn't keep up with the present timeframe. Do you believe that an updated convention would stop the UK being a source of asylum for refugees? The UK is not a target for asylum by refugees. It is a target for economic migration by people who are using the refugee system to circumvent the normal immigration system. The fact that the refugee system in the UK is far too soft in its allowances does not help nor does the fact that an unaccountable foreign judiciary takes precedence over the will of the British electorate is also a problem. This situation cannot be right both morally and democratically. |
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Post by jonksy on Aug 10, 2023 19:52:45 GMT
So when are going to admit that you are then zany? I wasn't. And everyone who can read knows it. Poor effort Jonsky. Are you really so weak you can't admit when you are wrong? That's very sad. FFS yes you are a poor effort zany. Just like all the bleading heart brigade. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 10, 2023 20:12:27 GMT
Do you believe that an updated convention would stop the UK being a source of asylum for refugees? The UK is not a target for asylum by refugees. It is a target for economic migration by people who are using the refugee system to circumvent the normal immigration system. The fact that the refugee system in the UK is far too soft in its allowances does not help nor does the fact that an unaccountable foreign judiciary takes precedence over the will of the British electorate is also a problem. This situation cannot be right both morally and democratically. You are right that we are not a specific target. Comparative to Germany and France we take fewer. I'm not sure on your point about the "democratic will of the people" though - are you saying that the majority of the electorate wish the UK to no longer accept asylum seekers? |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 10, 2023 20:40:02 GMT
The UK is not a target for asylum by refugees. It is a target for economic migration by people who are using the refugee system to circumvent the normal immigration system. The fact that the refugee system in the UK is far too soft in its allowances does not help nor does the fact that an unaccountable foreign judiciary takes precedence over the will of the British electorate is also a problem. This situation cannot be right both morally and democratically. You are right that we are not a specific target. Comparative to Germany and France we take fewer. I'm not sure on your point about the "democratic will of the people" though - are you saying that the majority of the electorate wish the UK to no longer accept asylum seekers? No longer take in economic migrants posing as asylum seekers. |
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