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Post by jonksy on Nov 3, 2022 5:48:37 GMT
According to the BBC last night, the UK is 19th in the European league when it comes to taking in refugees. Yep you can always rely on the good old Brussels Bullshit Corp. What they don't tell you is those other eu countries shove them off on us. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 3, 2022 7:13:27 GMT
According to the BBC last night, the UK is 19th in the European league when it comes to taking in refugees. Yep you can always rely on the good old Brussels Bullshit Corp. What they don't tell you is those other eu countries shove them off on us. I wonder if they take into account. Land size and current population Historical refugees taken in. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 3, 2022 7:16:07 GMT
Yep you can always rely on the good old Brussels Bullshit Corp. What they don't tell you is those other eu countries shove them off on us. I wonder if they take into account. Land size and current population Historical refugees taken in. I bet they don't my friend. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 3, 2022 8:10:34 GMT
According to the news this morning, around 50% of the Albanians arriving have been granted asylum. What are they escaping from?
Ok so a look at the situation in Albania, shows its a breakdown in services and the ability to earn money that's driving people out.
The recently got a democratic government, but the situation on the ground is still bad with corruption and poverty.
Do we think this is a reason to offer asylum?
For me a better solution would be to allow Albanians to work here on short term visa's filling all those shortfalls in farming, nursing care etc.
We get the missing workers, they get some urgent money o take home.
Thoughts?
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Post by Handyman on Nov 3, 2022 8:17:49 GMT
Probably the Albanian Old Bill, or other rival gangs  |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 3, 2022 8:48:12 GMT
According to the news this morning, around 50% of the Albanians arriving have been granted asylum. What are they escaping from? I'd like to know on what grounds they have been granted asylum. Especially since Germany refuses any claims of asylum and even Ireland only grants around 3% of claims. Those countries are supposedly following the same international asylum rules as the UK so why the massive discrepancy? |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 4, 2022 0:52:08 GMT
According to the news this morning, around 50% of the Albanians arriving have been granted asylum. What are they escaping from? I'd like to know on what grounds they have been granted asylum. Especially since Germany refuses any claims of asylum and even Ireland only grants around 3% of claims. Those countries are supposedly following the same international asylum rules as the UK so why the massive discrepancy? Because Sod's Law always applies in the UK.
By the way, the pestilence in that place is rising fast.
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Post by Handyman on Nov 4, 2022 8:30:44 GMT
According to the news this morning, around 50% of the Albanians arriving have been granted asylum. What are they escaping from? I'd like to know on what grounds they have been granted asylum. Especially since Germany refuses any claims of asylum and even Ireland only grants around 3% of claims. Those countries are supposedly following the same international asylum rules as the UK so why the massive discrepancy? So would I, in the media yesterday I read that the young Albanian men that have crossed the Chanel this year about 12,000 of them are doing so because the pay if they can find work in Albania is very low the cost of living is high, they want to get here to earn money, IMO by any means possible. Drugs, Sex Trade, theft etc The money they make is then sent home which in many cases is to build large houses, large expensive cars are being shipped back to Albania many of them suspected of being stolen, the Albanian Government according to the article know exactly what they are doing and have allegedly stated if they deposit £2 million into an Albanian Bank no questions will be asked as long as they pay 10% interest on it. They are not genuine Asylum seekers; they are Economic Migrants that are not going through the proper process to be allowed to get here. |
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Post by Orac on Nov 4, 2022 8:35:43 GMT
Even for me who sympathises with left wing views it is obvious that some people deserve better treatment than others. No wonder so many people claim Woke has gone mad when we are worried about offending these men coming from Albania by using the word "Invasion" The argument goes - that these people, despite arriving from somewhere safe, may have originated from The Sudan and so might anyone coming into the UK from anywhere. Therefore (the argument goes) we have no option to refuse entry and limitless hospitality to anyone who asks. The position amounts to the UK having no option to exclude anyone and so having no borders. I say that such a position is obviously lopsided and disadvantageous to the UK people, it could only be sourced from some kind of race / ethnic hatred. It certainly has nothing to do with international law |
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Post by borchester on Nov 4, 2022 8:43:52 GMT
I'd like to know on what grounds they have been granted asylum. Especially since Germany refuses any claims of asylum and even Ireland only grants around 3% of claims. Those countries are supposedly following the same international asylum rules as the UK so why the massive discrepancy? So would I, in the media yesterday I read that the young Albanian men that have crossed the Chanel this year about 12,000 of them are doing so because the pay if they can find work in Albania is very low the cost of living is high, they want to get here to earn money, IMO by any means possible. Drugs, Sex Trade, theft etc The money they make is then sent home which in many cases is to build large houses, large expensive cars are being shipped back to Albania many of them suspected of being stolen, the Albanian Government according to the article know exactly what they are doing and have allegedly stated if they deposit £2 million into an Albanian Bank no questions will be asked as long as they pay 10% interest on it. They are not genuine Asylum seekers; they are Economic Migrants that are not going through the proper process to be allowed to get here. Sounds good to me.
I have employed a few East Europeans and like their work ethic and prices. If the local subies don't like the competition then they might like to try not charging sky high prices and actually turning up.
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Post by Orac on Nov 4, 2022 8:44:15 GMT
I'd like to know on what grounds they have been granted asylum. Especially since Germany refuses any claims of asylum and even Ireland only grants around 3% of claims. Those countries are supposedly following the same international asylum rules as the UK so why the massive discrepancy? I'd like the BBC to present this question to the responsible minister/s. |
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Post by Handyman on Nov 4, 2022 9:18:08 GMT
Yep you can always rely on the good old Brussels Bullshit Corp. What they don't tell you is those other eu countries shove them off on us. I wonder if they take into account. Land size and current population Historical refugees taken in. I agree we have a long history of allowing genuine Asylum seekers escaping war into the UK. Yes, we only have a small landmass, limited space, and limited places to house them, |
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Post by Handyman on Nov 4, 2022 9:30:29 GMT
So would I, in the media yesterday I read that the young Albanian men that have crossed the Chanel this year about 12,000 of them are doing so because the pay if they can find work in Albania is very low the cost of living is high, they want to get here to earn money, IMO by any means possible. Drugs, Sex Trade, theft etc The money they make is then sent home which in many cases is to build large houses, large expensive cars are being shipped back to Albania many of them suspected of being stolen, the Albanian Government according to the article know exactly what they are doing and have allegedly stated if they deposit £2 million into an Albanian Bank no questions will be asked as long as they pay 10% interest on it. They are not genuine Asylum seekers; they are Economic Migrants that are not going through the proper process to be allowed to get here. Sounds good to me.
I have employed a few East Europeans and like their work ethic and prices. If the local subies don't like the competition then they might like to try not charging sky high prices and actually turning up.
The company my son works for has a large multinational workforce with the right paperwork and has been so for 20 years or more, in the last 10 year then they had difficulty attracting local out of work youths to take up apprenticeships to learn a trade with them on big builds on and around London, subcontractors they have to be sensible how they price the work, or they don't get the contract. Yes, the East Europeans are hard workers and reliable bene with the company for a long time, but my point is that many of Albanians who are entering the UK unlawfully will not be qualified tradesmen, but part of Organised Albanian Criminal Gangs. |
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Post by borchester on Nov 4, 2022 11:10:08 GMT
Sounds good to me.
I have employed a few East Europeans and like their work ethic and prices. If the local subies don't like the competition then they might like to try not charging sky high prices and actually turning up.
The company my son works for has a large multinational workforce with the right paperwork and has been so for 20 years or more, in the last 10 year then they had difficulty attracting local out of work youths to take up apprenticeships to learn a trade with them on big builds on and around London, subcontractors they have to be sensible how they price the work, or they don't get the contract. Yes, the East Europeans are hard workers and reliable bene with the company for a long time, but my point is that many of Albanians who are entering the UK unlawfully will not be qualified tradesmen, but part of Organised Albanian Criminal Gangs. Sounds like most immigrants, starting with the Anglo Saxons.
If folk are getting fed up with immigrants they should cut benefits and and tell our layabout army to fill the available work vacancies
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Post by patman post on Nov 4, 2022 12:08:53 GMT
I have employed a few East Europeans and like their work ethic and prices. If the local subies don't like the competition then they might like to try not charging sky high prices and actually turning up.
Agree. We’ve had several east Europeans doing building and renovation work. They generally start work before 8am and carry on right through until after 6pm. So far, quality of work seems good. The last Essex lads I chose from Check a Trader arrived at 10am and left at 3:30pm, and scaffolding remained round the building for almost a year. They were re-pointing a three-storey end of terrace, and doing some roof repairs. One portion of their repointing and most of their roofing work has needed repair. After some quite heated exchanges, I had the work remedied by other people. On the topic of workers from overseas, I’ll throw into the mix the IT support staff where I work — though likely having arrived via legit means. It currently has two from the Indian subcontinent, two Aussies (one of Chinese origin) and an Iranian. The boss is a Scot… |
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