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Post by Montegriffo on Jul 29, 2023 10:38:33 GMT
Another 'debunked conspiracy theory' to put in the same binned category as 'covid could have artificial origins' Exactly. Right up there with Chinese bio-weapon and tracking chips in vaccines. No doubt Alex Jones devoted a whole podcast to it.
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Post by Orac on Jul 29, 2023 10:46:23 GMT
Another 'debunked conspiracy theory' to put in the same binned category as 'covid could have artificial origins' Exactly. Right up there with Chinese bio-weapon and tracking chips in vaccines. No doubt Alex Jones devoted a whole podcast to it. You do realise that Covid could likely have artificial origins.?
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Post by Montegriffo on Jul 29, 2023 11:07:07 GMT
Exactly. Right up there with Chinese bio-weapon and tracking chips in vaccines. No doubt Alex Jones devoted a whole podcast to it. You do realise that Covid could likely have artificial origins.? Sure but that does not make it a bio-weapon. Sloppy bio-security at a research lab quite possibly (but not yet supported by evidence). I mean what use is a weapon that mostly takes out the old, obese and asthmatic? A gentle slope could achieve that.
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 29, 2023 11:18:02 GMT
Jordan Peterson and Katie Hopkins rabble rousing. The far right mob dutifully gathering their pitchforks in support of their latest version of the great reset conspiracy theory. ''The City Council has received death threats and online abuse as a result of the inaccurate claims regarding the proposal.'' ''Peterson’s labelling of the 15-minute city zones as part of a ‘well-documented plan’ has been linked to debunked conspiracy theories regarding a ‘great reset’, which claim that elites and groups like the World Economic Forum, which convened in Davos, Switzerland from January the 16th to the 20th, aim to take away basic rights from citizens in the new post-COVID world.'' Thanks for the link LOL. Stop listening to TV personalities and start listening to the people actually introducing the policy. Like Oxfordshire County Council.. Residents in Oxford and some areas just outside the city will be able to apply for a permit allowing them to drive through the traffic filters on up to 100 days each year.
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Post by Montegriffo on Jul 29, 2023 11:20:26 GMT
Jordan Peterson and Katie Hopkins rabble rousing. The far right mob dutifully gathering their pitchforks in support of their latest version of the great reset conspiracy theory. ''The City Council has received death threats and online abuse as a result of the inaccurate claims regarding the proposal.'' ''Peterson’s labelling of the 15-minute city zones as part of a ‘well-documented plan’ has been linked to debunked conspiracy theories regarding a ‘great reset’, which claim that elites and groups like the World Economic Forum, which convened in Davos, Switzerland from January the 16th to the 20th, aim to take away basic rights from citizens in the new post-COVID world.'' Thanks for the link LOL. Stop listening to TV personalities and start listening to the people actually introducing the policy. Like Oxfordshire County Council.. Residents in Oxford and some areas just outside the city will be able to apply for a permit allowing them to drive through the traffic filters on up to 100 days each year. Sounds reasonable.
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Post by Orac on Jul 29, 2023 11:56:14 GMT
You do realise that Covid could likely have artificial origins.? Sure but that does not make it a bio-weapon. Where did bio weapon come from? This is what i said - Another 'debunked conspiracy theory' to put in the same binned category as 'covid could have artificial origins'
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Post by Montegriffo on Jul 29, 2023 12:00:43 GMT
Sure but that does not make it a bio-weapon. Where did bio weapon come from? This is what i said - Another 'debunked conspiracy theory' to put in the same binned category as 'covid could have artificial origins'Far right conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones and Donald Jessica Trump. You know, the same people who think a scheme intended to reduce congestion is a part of ''the great reset''.
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Post by Orac on Jul 29, 2023 12:03:33 GMT
Where did bio weapon come from? This is what i said - Another 'debunked conspiracy theory' to put in the same binned category as 'covid could have artificial origins'Far right conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones and Donald Jessica Trump. You know, the same people who think a scheme intended to reduce congestion is a part of ''the great reset''. Amazingly, you try to press the same strawman yet again. I never mentioned Alex Jones. This is what i said - Another 'debunked conspiracy theory' to put in the same binned category as 'covid could have artificial origins'On this particular matter, Trump was correct.
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Post by Montegriffo on Jul 29, 2023 13:27:02 GMT
Far right conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones and Donald Jessica Trump. You know, the same people who think a scheme intended to reduce congestion is a part of ''the great reset''. Amazingly, you try to press the same strawman yet again. I never mentioned Alex Jones. This is what i said - Another 'debunked conspiracy theory' to put in the same binned category as 'covid could have artificial origins'On this particular matter, Trump was correct. It is still to be confirmed. There are at least as many people still saying it has a natural origin as not and neither side has come up with conclusive proof. Which side you choose seems to depend as much on your place on the political spectrum as any scientific evidence. As a result I'm staying firmly on the fence for now.
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Post by Montegriffo on Jul 29, 2023 13:32:05 GMT
Far right conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones and Donald Jessica Trump. You know, the same people who think a scheme intended to reduce congestion is a part of ''the great reset''. Amazingly, you try to press the same strawman yet again. I never mentioned Alex Jones. This is what i said - Another 'debunked conspiracy theory' to put in the same binned category as 'covid could have artificial origins'On this particular matter, Trump was correct. You asked where bioweapon came from. I answered. At no point did I suggest you mentioned Alex Jones. I brought your diversion into Covid back on point by pointing out the same people coming up with Covid conspiracies are also coming up with ''the Great Reset''. Not a strawman in sight.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 29, 2023 13:57:43 GMT
Ah, I get it, I pointed the finger at the dictatorship in China and all the pollution they put out compared to our country. And you like that dictatorship. I stand by my comments. Sanctions against heavy polluters. See how they like economic collapse. vinny. Now im not clued up about the world of trade and economics like , you , but perhaps you can help here. If sanctions for example dont work against little third world backwaters like Iran , how do they work against theworlds potential number one economic superpower that is china?
They are no longer reliant on working in the paddy fields as their primary means of production. Things move on.
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 29, 2023 17:39:08 GMT
Seems fair...
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Post by Orac on Jul 29, 2023 19:26:45 GMT
Amazingly, you try to press the same strawman yet again. I never mentioned Alex Jones. This is what i said - Another 'debunked conspiracy theory' to put in the same binned category as 'covid could have artificial origins'On this particular matter, Trump was correct. You asked where bioweapon came from. I answered. At no point did I suggest you mentioned Alex Jones. I brought your diversion into Covid back on point by pointing out the same people coming up with Covid conspiracies are also coming up with ''the Great Reset''. Not a strawman in sight. I didn't mention a bio-weapon either. I talked about the origins of covid.
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Post by Orac on Jul 29, 2023 19:28:54 GMT
Amazingly, you try to press the same strawman yet again. I never mentioned Alex Jones. This is what i said - Another 'debunked conspiracy theory' to put in the same binned category as 'covid could have artificial origins'On this particular matter, Trump was correct. It is still to be confirmed. It may well have an artificial origin - ie it has been confirmed that the notion that it may have an artificial origin is not a 'debunked conspiracy theory' - which was my point
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Post by buccaneer on Jul 30, 2023 7:00:05 GMT
In that case, it's not quite as bad as I imagined. In 2020 we imported 46% of the food we consumed. Still, considering we are an island nation and 70% of the UK is farmland, 46% is huge. We could do better, and at some point we may have to. We are currently around 60% self sufficient in food. We could get to 100% simply by reducing meat consumption to once a week. Please FO telling people what and how much of it they should eat.
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