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Post by om15 on Oct 12, 2022 15:35:34 GMT
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Post by jaydee on Oct 13, 2022 9:34:32 GMT
Yes lets look at the missing money. As you rant on one post it was stolen then now rant it is missing. But you have solved the crime. You stated it was stolen by the first minister. But I will give you a brownie point. It is the first time you have answered one question. Albeit a load of absolute garbage. As you are now in answering mode. Could you point out where the First Minister was anti Englsih. Not your absolute garbage in your idiotic link because someone in a crowd screamed to a reporter he was a traitor. Then can you tell me where she trashed the economy and lied. That is what you ranted. Along with other questions i asked. Get this into your grey matter between the lugs. What is being investigated is not money being stolen or missing. It was how some of that money was spent. After nearly a year there has been no movement by the police. Because like your rubbish on Ferry's. It is just that. Rubbish. If there is anything untoward then those responsible will be prosecuted. As you have now found the First minister guilty of theft. I trust you have passed this wonderful detective work of yours on to Police Scotland. You do know Scotland has more than one ferry. Now let me make it clear what the complaint was. The claims came from pro-independence activists who allege the money - raised through two crowdfunding appeals in 2017 - was ringfenced for independence campaigns but instead was spent on other things. Police Scotland has confirmed that an investigation launched last July is still ongoing. Which part of that do you have difficulty in understanding. Now can you tell me how you work out how money was spent on other things. Translates to your brain. It was stolen. Could I suggest you go and see somebody
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Post by Vinny on Oct 13, 2022 13:35:19 GMT
If I were Liz Truss I wouldn't bother contacting the extremely unimportant leader of the SNP. I'd be busy trying to rebuild the country.
One thing I would do is hold a UK wide referendum on repealing devolution to save cash.
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Post by thomas on Oct 14, 2022 7:11:31 GMT
Nicola Sturgeon said that she hates Tories and all that they stand for. No surprise that she's not at the top of Liz Truss's wish to meet list, eh? Im unsure of your point. Should we reward her or throw her in prison?
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Post by thomas on Oct 14, 2022 7:16:37 GMT
I tend to disagree Steve, I think Liz Truss genuinely dislikes Sturgeon and just doesn't want to meet her. I have no doubt she will in due course, but it will be on her terms, not when Sturgeon demands it. In the course of politics , running a country and general diplomacy ,many politicians and political leaders past and present meet with people they cant personally stand. Im told sturgeon couldnt stand may , but got on well with johnson.
Salmond couldnt stand the conservatives either , but was and remains great friends with tory David davis.
Sturgeon isnt demanding anything. Like drakeford and o neil simply highlighting the lack of respect from dizzie lizzie and playing to her own gallery. Its called politics old son.
LMFAO. You mean if dizzie lizzie lasts long enough.
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Post by thomas on Oct 14, 2022 7:22:14 GMT
One thing I would do is hold a UK wide referendum on repealing devolution to save cash. Holding a de facto english referendum to repeal the scottish devolution referendum that 75 % of scots backed , and only on average 8 % of scots which to end currently?
Good luck with that.
Even the tories arent that stupid.
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Post by Vinny on Oct 14, 2022 7:34:51 GMT
PR for the British Parliament, 50 extra seats there, and county councils with a high level of devolved powers mostly equal to that of the current devolved parliaments / assemblies but with greater tax raising and spending powers.
It's healthier than having divisive nationalistic hate machines.
I can see even most of Scotland agreeing to that.
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Post by jaydee on Oct 14, 2022 8:45:53 GMT
One thing I would do is hold a UK wide referendum on repealing devolution to save cash. Holding a de facto english referendum to repeal the scottish devolution referendum that 75 % of scots backed , and only on average 8 % of scots which to end currently?
Good luck with that.
Even the tories arent that stupid.
Oh they are that stupid. The ignorant clueless pratts in Westminster actually think they were invented to rule. I use the word invented. When I look at the likes of JRM. The word born does not enter the equation. The only thing they are not stupid at is the sleaze bags lining their own pockets. From sleaze cash in brown paper envelopes at the end of the last century to the utter sleaze corruption in the Johnston administration of money being funneled into bank account on Covid. Along with Putin's gangsters gold funding Brexit. England bought and sold by Russian Gold a parcel o rogues in a nation. However i digress. Go back to the last indy ref. Everything that the Labour/Tory/Lib dem coalition ranted would happen if the Scots left the Union. Has happened while Scotland was in the Union. Going back the leader of those parties promised that if the Scots stayed in the Union. And signed a pledge Scotland would have increased devolved powers. The inference being FFA would be transferred to the Scottish Government . The John Swinney version. Not the George Osborne version of a wee bit here and a wee bit there or 8.4% share of this or that. What happened. Ten seconds after Cameron was informed of the result. He stood on the step of Number 10 and introduced EVEL. Making the Scots second hand citizens in their own country in one swoop. Since then, I detest calling them Conservatives as they no longer are, They are out and out lying fascists. And have not voted for them since. They have done evry thing possible to undermine the power of the devolved nations. The laughable bit. If Cameron had offered FFA. Which was expected on the signing of the pledge. the SNP would have accepted. There would have been no need for any Scottish MPs to go to Westminster. Scotland would pay its share of things like defence. Any of what is now retained matters would be dealt with by a select committee of Scottish MPs and problems thrashed out. And the Uk would still be intact. Now it is the Dis-United Kingdom. But no. The grease ball were more interested in conflict. That bunch of liars, I include all Unionsit parties. They signed the pledge and will never be trusted again. That is why they were decimated north of the border. By the way because of the stupidity of the coalition re currency issue. The UK lost its AAA and that has never recovered. Costing billions since. www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/inside-vow-how-historic-daily-6464878www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/scottish-independence-referendum-cameron-miliband-4266121www.theguardian.com/uk/1999/nov/30/hamiltonvalfayed.stuartmillar
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Post by thomas on Oct 14, 2022 14:51:30 GMT
Holding a de facto english referendum to repeal the scottish devolution referendum that 75 % of scots backed , and only on average 8 % of scots which to end currently?
Good luck with that.
Even the tories arent that stupid.
Oh they are that stupid. I hope so jaydee. You couldnt get a bigger gift to the independence movement than a westmisnter government publicly closing down the scottish parliament to appease english voters like vinny.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2022 18:40:11 GMT
I wouldn't show much respect for somebody who claims to detest everything I stood for. What Sturgeon has done is prove that she's an emotionally driven ultra-extremist. Imagine the uproar if the PM openly stated that he/she detests the SNP instead of just disgreeing with a certain ideological position.
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Post by jaydee on Oct 15, 2022 7:36:43 GMT
I wouldn't show much respect for somebody who claims to detest everything I stood for. What Sturgeon has done is prove that she's an emotionally driven ultra-extremist. Imagine the uproar if the PM openly stated that he/she detests the SNP instead of just disgreeing with a certain ideological position. If you stand for the present Conservative party. Who are no longer Conservative But out and out fascists. Do not do detestable things, like tax cuts for the super rich.. paid for by those most vulnerable in society. Or lie through your teeth at every opportunity. Or rant everything is the problem of Covid and Putin. And everybody else. And the First minister made it perfectly clear she was referring to the Government. But what the hell. Now that object which calls herself a Prime minister, voted by nobody in Scotland. Has made it clear she will not represent the Scots. They are best ignored. That is what she said. And I have stated elsewhere. How about venting your spleen on Johnston when he ranted he wished the Scots exterminated, has a problem with bum boys in tank suits and piccaninnies with water melon smiles. Or Truss ranting the First Minister is a attention seeker. Or does that emotionally driven ultra-extremist, directed at you for approval and everything you stand for. Your admission. Not count. So I presume you are a extreme Brit nat. Could you tell me how that differs for those like me and the FM. Who simply want the Scots to go their merry way. How are you not extreme
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Post by jaydee on Oct 15, 2022 8:51:21 GMT
I hope so jaydee. You couldnt get a bigger gift to the independence movement than a westmisnter government publicly closing down the scottish parliament to appease english voters like vinny.
Well yeh. I do accept that there are a million and one reasons why Scotland should remain part of the UK. I do not dispute that. But the economy is not one of them. Not even close. The problem is some 500,000 of those are Englishmen, Some 17,000 Welsh and some 35,000 from NI.. All those entitled to a vote. And rightly so. With a population of some 5.5 million that is a fair whack. Blood is thicker than water and I suspect the majority of those would vote for the Union. I have no issue with that either. But it is clearly something the SNP will have to address. How is the problem
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2022 13:23:31 GMT
I wouldn't show much respect for somebody who claims to detest everything I stood for. What Sturgeon has done is prove that she's an emotionally driven ultra-extremist. Imagine the uproar if the PM openly stated that he/she detests the SNP instead of just disgreeing with a certain ideological position. If you stand for the present Conservative party. Who are no longer Conservative But out and out fascists. Do not do detestable things, like tax cuts for the super rich.. paid for by those most vulnerable in society. Or lie through your teeth at every opportunity. Or rant everything is the problem of Covid and Putin. And everybody else. And the First minister made it perfectly clear she was referring to the Government. But what the hell. Now that object which calls herself a Prime minister, voted by nobody in Scotland. Has made it clear she will not represent the Scots. They are best ignored. That is what she said. And I have stated elsewhere. How about venting your spleen on Johnston when he ranted he wished the Scots exterminated, has a problem with bum boys in tank suits and piccaninnies with water melon smiles. Or Truss ranting the First Minister is a attention seeker. Or does that emotionally driven ultra-extremist, directed at you for approval and everything you stand for. Your admission. Not count. So I presume you are a extreme Brit nat. Could you tell me how that differs for those like me and the FM. Who simply want the Scots to go their merry way. How are you not extreme I can now see why Sturgeon is dependent on extremism.
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Post by jaydee on Oct 15, 2022 22:38:54 GMT
I can now see why Sturgeon is dependent on extremism. I can now see why the Conservative have them
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Post by johnofgwent on Oct 28, 2022 17:31:48 GMT
Go on, have a go, what has Sturgeon contributed to the UK, and what relevance is her separatist agenda to the current situation in the UK? Neither Wales or Scotland are enthusiastic members of the UK until it is handout time. She hasnt contributed anything to the uk. Thats because she doesnt support the uk , heads the scottish not uk parliament , and her party is a scottish party not a uk party.
FFS next you will be asking me what michelle o neil , or Adam price and thier respective parties have "contributed" to the uk. Are you really that idiotic ,or simply being facetious.??
Oh I think Adam price did wonders for uk imports of Semtex channelled through Libya.
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