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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 10, 2022 15:44:55 GMT
I tend to disagree Steve, I think Liz Truss genuinely dislikes Sturgeon and just doesn't want to meet her. I have no doubt she will in due course, but it will be on her terms, not when Sturgeon demands it. I think the feeling is mutual. NS said that she 'detests' Tories. I'm sure that is how she feels about Truss in particular. The disrespect shown by Truss is nothing new. It took Blair 16 days to contact AS when the SNP won in 2007 "He never writes, he never phones ...". www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2007/jun/03/scotland.devolution?showallcomments=trueTell me Morayloon, why do you think Truss has shown disrespect? Is it protocol for the prime minister to contact the leader of the SNP? Particularly a leader who openly says she despises the conservative party, how very professional. As far as I'm aware there is nothing stopping Sturgeon contacting the prime minister if she so chooses, but the arrogant bitch prefers to tantrum and issue snide comments to the media because the British prime minister refuses to pay her homage. Sturgeon has a very grandiose sense of her own importance.
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Post by morayloon on Oct 10, 2022 17:53:50 GMT
Tell me Morayloon, why do you think Truss has shown disrespect? Is it protocol for the prime minister to contact the leader of the SNP? Particularly a leader who openly says she despises the conservative party, how very professional. As far as I'm aware there is nothing stopping Sturgeon contacting the prime minister if she so chooses, but the arrogant bitch prefers to tantrum and issue snide comments to the media because the British prime minister refuses to pay her homage. Sturgeon has a very grandiose sense of her own importance. As Thomas said it is a convention. And you miss the point in your anti NS bile, Truss hasn't contaced the Welsh FM either. Was it professional for Truss to say she would ignore Sturgeon and that she was an attention seeker? Best to ignore the rest of your rant
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Post by om15 on Oct 11, 2022 12:20:45 GMT
We have come to realise that "Tories" is actually the SNP code for "English". Her vile outburst now makes more sense.
She is clutching at straws, her Country is a mess because of her negligence, her separatist agenda is in tatters because after 10 years of shrieking she still can't say what currency they will use or give any genuine policies other than soundbites for her dim witted followers.
Looking at readers letters in the newspapers the support for Scottish Independence is greater in England than in Scotland, she has achieved that much I suppose.
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Post by morayloon on Oct 11, 2022 12:45:37 GMT
We have come to realise that "Tories" is actually the SNP code for "English". Her vile outburst now makes more sense. She is clutching at straws, her Country is a mess because of her negligence, her separatist agenda is in tatters because after 10 years of shrieking she still can't say what currency they will use or give any genuine policies other than soundbites for her dim witted followers. Looking at readers letters in the newspapers the support for Scottish Independence is greater in England than in Scotland, she has achieved that much I suppose. Your first sentence is complete bollocks. The party is publishing its latest paper, on the economy, next week. I think you'd be best to wait until then before spouting ill informed nonsense. What do you expect when all you look at are the Mail, Express & Telegraph? Unfortunately for you the British Social Attitudes Survey found that only 25% Of English people supported Scottish Independence www.bsa.natcen.ac.uk/latest-report/british-social-attitudes-39/constitutional-reform.aspx Additionally, the Referendum, according to study led by Prof Ailsa Henderson (I've referred to the survey many times on PoFo) found that, of the c500,000 of your countrymen able to vote, only 22% backed Independence. Of course, past experience tells me that you won't (can't) respond to the facts.
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Post by jaydee on Oct 11, 2022 13:25:20 GMT
Nicola Sturgeon says it's 'absurd' she's had no contact from Liz Truss since she became Prime Minister. Speaking to the BBC ahead of the SNP conference, the Scottish First Minister said she has not had a call or meeting with Ms Truss since she entered Number 10 last month. There were conversations between the two when they met during events commemorating the death of the Queen, the First Minister said, but nothing official. Ms Sturgeon said: "I don't know whether that is arrogance, lack of respect, or insecurity, or whatever it is. It's not the right way to do Government in a grown up way. I hope we will see a change. I'll do my best to work with Liz Truss as constructively as possible, or whoever comes after because we can't take anything for granted in UK politics these days.www.scotsman.com/news/politics/nicola-sturgeon-says-its-absurd-shes-had-no-contact-from-liz-truss-since-she-became-prime-minister-3872009If Sturgeon is so desperate to speak with the prime minister, why doesn't she pick up the phone? Could it be she's arrogant and lacks respect for the British prime minister and the English generally. Every Prime Minister in the distant past has visited Scotland within days of being elected. That is the standard required by a incumbent PM to show they will represent every person in the United kingdom. Even BoJoke despite his lies, applied that standard within 4 days. Distruss has made it clear She is not going to represent Scotland and called the First Minister a attention seeker and best ignored. Her absolute clueless ignorance alas is making the likes of you cheer. Now you know who will be responsible for the break up of the UK. Distruss has made it clear she will not represent Scotland. Loud and Clear. That is the message she has sent out. The 4th PM in 6 years, elected by nobody in Scotland. The next one turning out to be a bigger toss than the previous one. Well it only took 3 weeks to trash the economy and the BofE having to step in. What's new in fascist led Westminster. The ignorance is beyond belief
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Post by jaydee on Oct 11, 2022 13:41:43 GMT
We have come to realise that "Tories" is actually the SNP code for "English". Her vile outburst now makes more sense. She is clutching at straws, her Country is a mess because of her negligence, her separatist agenda is in tatters because after 10 years of shrieking she still can't say what currency they will use or give any genuine policies other than soundbites for her dim witted followers. Looking at readers letters in the newspapers the support for Scottish Independence is greater in England than in Scotland, she has achieved that much I suppose. Allow me the privilege of a copy and paste. Because since the last time nothing has changed. Apart from you spewing bile on the PoFo forum and now over here. In which all your question had been answered. Then for 40th time I have asked. How about you correcting what I said. And I am still waiting on you to explain your version of Barnett to me and how Scotland benefits from it. I Then tell me how energy rich Scotland would benefit by remaining with bankrupt England and the present screw balls in power in Westminster. Three weeks in power, they again crash the economy and drag Scotland with it. Will I find all those answers as you correct the figures I posted. By the way. They are not my figures. How about you correcting what I am about to say instead of you posting, how did you describe it on PoFo. Ah... gobshite which you continually accuse others. You have had this several times. Not one has corrected it. And still come away with the same garbage. .The latest figures I have. Not including oil and gas, Scotland sold 86.4 billion in goods and services to England. England sold £93.4 billions in goods and services to Scotland. Scotland in terms of countries is England's largest trading partner with exports to Scotland greater than to Brazil, South Africa, Russia,. India, China and Japan put together. The jock haters are suggesting that some future arsehole English chancellor is going to put millions on the dole in England and destroy £180 billion worth of trade between the 2 nations, as they rant Scotland wants to leave England. Because they hates the Jocks. Or think some future chancellors are as stupid as them. There will be a hard border when the UK split up and yes there will be tariffs. Not because of Scotland. Because England voted to make itself poorer. Swallowing the lying fanny spewed by Farage and Johnston. As they now see what they voted for. I think by now even the village idiots in the real world have now concluded England is not going to benefit the sunny uplands with the easiest deal in history and have your cake and eat it. Would you care to correct any of that. Scotland is the only UK nation to have exported more goods internationally than it has imported every year since records began. ... In terms of exports per head, Scotland outperforms the UK: Scotland exports £17,455 per head per year, while England exports £8,626 per head per year. Scotland is an exporting powerhouse, whose success has had nothing to do with being part of the UK, but whose future has been jeopardised due to the UK leading taking Scotland out of the European Union. Scotland also outperforms all the other UK nations in terms of international exports. Scotland is the only UK nation to have exported more goods internationally than it has imported every year since records began. In contrast, England’s international trade deficit in goods is massive. The source Fraser of Allander institute. And the laughable bit.. . On its own whisky contributes £37 a second to the Uk treasury. Once you have corrected the above. In terms of Barnett. Would you care to explain to me how it works and exactly how Scotland benefits. In terms of currency the Scottish pound will be floated. And a Scottish Central bank is now up and running. By the way England does not have a central bank. The UK does. You have been told a dozen times and still insist on ranting the same rubbish. Now the reason I posted this. It will answer all the rubbish you are about to post. All I have simply to do is refer you to it. I await with bated breath on more undiluted drivel. And not one question answered.
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Post by om15 on Oct 11, 2022 15:20:09 GMT
Jaydee, if you could stifle your cut and paste for one moment, I don't know if you are aware of conversations taking place in the UK about Sturgeon, do you agree with Peter Hitchens, he seems to sum it up pretty well, www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqhQKZiLP9c&ab_channel=TalkTV
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Post by jaydee on Oct 11, 2022 17:43:56 GMT
Jaydee, if you could stifle your cut and paste for one moment, I don't know if you are aware of conversations taking place in the UK about Sturgeon, do you agree with Peter Hitchens, he seems to sum it up pretty well, www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqhQKZiLP9c&ab_channel=TalkTVWhy would I stop a copy and paste. It has not changed since I wrote it as you spectacularly failed for the 40th time to correct that, or anything I have posted. As you rant the same drivel post after post. That contains all the answers to all of your continual copy and paste of utter nonsense. Post after post after post. . So I take it you are not going to correct any of it. . You do now understand the SNP will be going for a pound. Which in two posts time you will rant they do not know what currency they will use. What you mean is you do not know. That is more than obvious. You do understand that a Scottish central bank is now up and running. You have been told 40 times and given links to. Yet you still come away with the same drivel. You do understand England does not have a central bank. The UK does. Even that is a misnomer. It is a regulatory authority acting as LOLR for UK banks. And even that is a misnomer as government do not have money. The LOLR is the UK tax payer. Thats me. Thats you. In terms of Hitchins. I put him on the same level as your source who was jailed in Nottingham for sex offences. Now here is a very simple question and I await with bated breath on a copy and paste. I bet you, like every silly Englishmen, who swallowed hook line and sinker, on all forums, the hate filled anti Scotish spew coming out of Number 10. You do not have one scoobie why you hate the First Minister. So you tell me. AS you are totally incapable like others to understand, you have been lied to. Now is that just not a simple question and nice of me to ask. By the way. How are you getting on having to pay to drink your own excrement.
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Post by om15 on Oct 11, 2022 20:11:52 GMT
Firstly, I do not hate Nicola Sturgeon, Full Stop.
I think that she is doing deep harm to Scotland by her negligence and indifference to its problems. I think she is a calculating separatist that has used the antipathy of the Scots towards the English to stir up grievances and bigotry, and is a dishonest and dishonourable person as evidenced by her treatment of Salmond and her misappropriation of covid funds.
If you can't see that and you do believe her nonsense, good luck.
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Post by jaydee on Oct 12, 2022 4:07:07 GMT
Firstly, I do not hate Nicola Sturgeon, Full Stop. I think that she is doing deep harm to Scotland by her negligence and indifference to its problems. I think she is a calculating separatist that has used the antipathy of the Scots towards the English to stir up grievances and bigotry, and is a dishonest and dishonourable person as evidenced by her treatment of Salmond and her misappropriation of covid funds. If you can't see that and you do believe her nonsense, good luck. Firstly you do hate with venom the First Minister of Scotland. It is all you post about. It is affecting you. Full stop. 100% of your your post are vile insults ranging from how she stole money, to how she lies, that you never point to, to the utter garbage that you posted here. and you are doing it again. So for the millionth time. Point out where she lied, how she is anti English. Here you are on day one of me on a new forum and you doing exactly the same again. That is all you do. Post how you hate the FM of Scotland. Secondly I have just given you a link and asked you for the 41st time to to correct it. Which you have spectacularly failed to do so. That is the harm she is doing to Scotland. That is what you have just said. You will find the link below. Would you point out the harm. Who is being harmed. In terms of Salmond. He was charged by the police, after being accused by several woman who stated they had been sexually assaulted by him. She refused to involve the Scottish Government into a Police Enquiry. So stop talking garbage. Unlike the liar King Bojoke as he tried to protect Paterson and lied through his teeth on everything imaginable. Ending up with a fine. And of course as I recall your source of information once was from a sex offender. Jailed at Nottingham crown Court My My my. OM15 only thinks the First minister is a calculating separatist. Let me assure you, and I apologise if you misunderstood. . Like me. I do not think she is a out and out separatist. She is a out and out separatist. To get rid of and the Scots out of the corrupt broken system of Westminster and its corrupt fascist sleaze bag and liars. I to no longer trust that bunch of wankers. Your problem being. So do not give me the nonsense after the vile rants you post about her and the Scots. You are suddenly into hug a Jock. Let me try and install this into your deluded mind. It is the policy of the SNP and that of course of the First minister to leave the United Kingdom. That means she does not want to leave England. That, like many of your countrymen, is how you think. So in your delusion. How is she not anti Welsh or Irish. Could I suggest you buy a effigy of a Jock wearing a kilt. Go to a darkened room and stick pins in it. It may help. Your hatred of her is clearly a problem. By the way. The Scottish government or the First minister does not affect one iota of your life. Neither is there any wish to do so. And does not cost you as a English tax payer one penny. What your problem is defies the hell out of me. Here is the link and the damage you rant she is causing. Would you care to point it out. Or correct it. ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/post/892/thread
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Post by jaydee on Oct 12, 2022 8:10:23 GMT
I tend to disagree Steve, I think Liz Truss genuinely dislikes Sturgeon and just doesn't want to meet her. I have no doubt she will in due course, but it will be on her terms, not when Sturgeon demands it. You are a cracker Red. The First Minister made it clear she was referring to the Westminster Government. But what the hell. Second after she said it. Thousand came on twitter agreeing with the First minister making it very clear they to detested the Tory's. As you waffle like a sapper trying to make out the Tory's are the victim. But heh ho when the Conservative press secretary called the First Minister a over stuffed haggis, Distruss called her a attention seeker and best ignored. Johnston wanted the Scots exterminated along with his problem with bum boys in tank suits and piccaninnies with watermelon smiles. And there is you and Douglas Ross suddenly concerned about intolerant speeches. You the man who spouts every body is a snowflake. As you take on the roll as head of Tory victim snowflakes protection officer. The answer is simple. If you do not want millions of people calling you detestable. Do not do detestable repugnant things. Like crash the economy and impose a self inflicted cost of living crises. Blaming covid and Putin no longer washes. Only clowns unable to think for themselves, belief that havering slastering drivel. That sound bite spewed every morning on the telly. Or inflict for 12 years , death, poverty and division on millions of people. Then rant that policy was wrong and within 3 weeks crash the economy. Expecting the poorest and most vulnerable in society to fund the super rich in the process. Which you clearly have not noticed. You do know north of the border. Westminster does not interest anyone. Apart from the political anoraks. Youngsters think it is a football team. Daily life is Holyrood. How is the long suffering Mrs R doing. Hope all is well. Scary Mary sends her regards.
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Post by om15 on Oct 12, 2022 9:17:09 GMT
Can't the Scottish NHS help you with your difficulties.
I used to think you were mildly amusing, but now I rather think you might need some treatment, is there any soporific that you can buy over the counter.
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Post by jaydee on Oct 12, 2022 9:37:47 GMT
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Post by om15 on Oct 12, 2022 10:05:42 GMT
1. Police Scotland has confirmed that an investigation launched last July into alleged 'missing' campaign money from SNP funds is still ongoing. The investigation was opened by the force after questions were raised about how donations to Nicola Sturgeon's party were spent. www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/police-scotland-probe-snps-missing-26661550The force told the Scottish Daily Express, “enquiries are ongoing” ten months after seven complaints accused the SNP of mishandling more than £600,000 in donations for IndyRef2. 2. Nicola Sturgeon has been accused of whipping up anti-English hatred after a BBC journalist was called a traitor and Tory activists were pelted with eggs at the party’s leadership hustings in Perth on Tuesday night. Police have been urged to track down demonstrators who engaged in “intimidatory” behaviour as Scottish Conservatives arrived to hear from contenders Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak at Perth Concert Hall. Holly Moscrop, the 20-year-old chairman of the Young Scottish Conservatives, said she was spat at and grabbed as security staff looked on. www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/08/17/nicola-sturgeon-accused-whipping-anti-english-hatred-tories/3. Drug deaths, education standards, ferries, pot holes, NHS, Police Scotland and Mcvities. Happy to help.
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Post by jaydee on Oct 12, 2022 15:13:16 GMT
1. Police Scotland has confirmed that an investigation launched last July into alleged 'missing' campaign money from SNP funds is still ongoing. The investigation was opened by the force after questions were raised about how donations to Nicola Sturgeon's party were spent. www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/police-scotland-probe-snps-missing-26661550The force told the Scottish Daily Express, “enquiries are ongoing” ten months after seven complaints accused the SNP of mishandling more than £600,000 in donations for IndyRef2. 2. Nicola Sturgeon has been accused of whipping up anti-English hatred after a BBC journalist was called a traitor and Tory activists were pelted with eggs at the party’s leadership hustings in Perth on Tuesday night. Police have been urged to track down demonstrators who engaged in “intimidatory” behaviour as Scottish Conservatives arrived to hear from contenders Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak at Perth Concert Hall. Holly Moscrop, the 20-year-old chairman of the Young Scottish Conservatives, said she was spat at and grabbed as security staff looked on. www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/08/17/nicola-sturgeon-accused-whipping-anti-english-hatred-tories/3. Drug deaths, education standards, ferries, pot holes, NHS, Police Scotland and Mcvities. Happy to help. You know I do not understand if you are incapable of understanding what you read. Or just so engrossed with your hatred of the First Minister it is warping your mind. They are not investigating missing money7. They are investigating on how it was spent. As you on another forum accused the First Minister of theft. In terms of crackpots attacking any body. What has that to do with the First Minister. In terms of the ferry cock it has cost the Scottish tax payer some 00000000000.00000.1% of the cock up of the Johnston administration. And around the same in 3 weeks of the present incumbent. The ferry cock up costing you nothing as you ranted and inferred the Scots only have one ship. On a recent breakdown. And it has been sorted out. Allow me to do another copy and paste as once again you have had this explained to you a dozen times. And for the 50th time the ferry cockup had nothing to do with the First minister. What part of that do you not understand. And still come away with the same guff. In terms of crack pots attacking anybody. What has that to do with the First Minister. Where in your idiotic link did she call anybody a traitor. As once again you show lack of understanding on what you read. As the Johnston administration called teachers, doctors, lawyer etc the enemy within. As the law society warned Johnston to cut back his rhetoric and the government’s sustained hostility towards the legal profession risks stirring up hatred and undermining the rule of law.. In terms of potholes do read the link below which I have given you a dozen times. As Johnston gave £330,000 of taxpayers’ money thats me, was spent on repairing a pothole-ridden road reportedly owned by a viscount who formerly sat as a Conservative in the House of Lords.. Now on the first link below is the link again. Now on that first link Could you show me where the First minister wrecked the Scottish economy. Then correct the figures as you say they are wrong As the rest of your pathetic garbage allow me to do another copy and paste. . NHS waiting times. 945,072 people waited more than 12 hours in England A&E departments in 2021-22. That’s 48 times larger than the figure for Scotland 19,667, Scottish nurse average pay is £36,631 in England £33,384. Drug deaths per 10000 in Scotland is higher because it includes death by alcohol. English figures do not. Add that then get back to me. That is seperate from a worse drug problem.
You have been told this dozens of times and still come away with the same garbage. That goes down to England. It has a bigger drug problem in primary schools and prisons on their own than the entire drug problem in Scotland. Apart from that it is a retained matter. If you understand what that means. See 5th link. Despite covid, Scotland has built 10 time more social houses than England. That is 50,000 since the last Parliament. To match that England would need to build 500,000. They have built around the same as Scotland. So perhaps you can now answer the question I asked. Then of course point to where the First minister is anti English Now all I have to do is refer you to two links as you came away with the same garbage in a hours time. Do try and answer instead of coming away with more garbage about how you hate the First Minister. I really do get it. You hate the First Minister and detest Jocks. You make that absolutely clear. on every post you have ever made. I really do get it. But do try and post fact. Not utter fanny. By the way do you actually read links. ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/post/892/threadwww.theguardian.com/law/2020/oct/06/legal-profession-hits-back-at-boris-johnson-over-lefty-lawyers-speechwww.fsb.org.uk/resources-page/revealed-england-s-pothole-problem-laid-bare-as-700-000-complaints-reported-across-the-country.htmlwww.theguardian.com/politics/2021/dec/29/labour-lambasts-reported-330k-award-of-public-money-to-repair-ex-peers-roadwww.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/19/scotland-drugs-problem-westminster-policy
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