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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 8, 2023 8:57:04 GMT
Do you? That's interesting that you call it a probability and a fact at the same time. I guess that covers your options though. Unfortunately for GB New, there is no probability about it, as Ofcom have announced it themselves, hence why the papers report it. If I had been running GB News I'd have got the hunch that something was wrong long time back. You can push these things so far, then when they come for you they do the whole thing, like a greasy lawyer does. In China the media is completely and overtly controlled by the government and the authorities don't have to mess around finding an excuse. Wouldn't you find that situation preferable? Right so as you and your own crowd and GB News and their crowd look for people to slag off you don't notice your own mistakes.
China does not tell GB News what to publish. Mind you they don't need to as they just have to wait until it shoots itself in its foot.
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Post by Orac on Aug 8, 2023 9:06:31 GMT
In China the media is completely and overtly controlled by the government and the authorities don't have to mess around finding an excuse. Wouldn't you find that situation preferable? China does not tell GB News what to publish. Mind you they don't need to as they just have to wait until it shoots itself in its foot.
GB News isn't in China - a point I have been making throughout The question still stands. Wouldn't you find such a situation preferable? Why hang about in the west when what you want is available and directly applied? |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 8, 2023 10:17:37 GMT
China does not tell GB News what to publish. Mind you they don't need to as they just have to wait until it shoots itself in its foot.
GB News isn't in China - a point I have been making throughout The question still stands. Wouldn't you find such a situation preferable? Why hang about in the west when what you want is available and directly applied? All you are interested in doing is attacking me. You don't have any interest in the thread. You ignore any thread I put up unless you can find a personal attack point.
This was very similar to the last but one forum I was on and many of its members have come here now. They are rude and obnoxious, but they now predominate and regularly attack me. I left that forum due to the evil nature of it and now they bother me here. You are just a sucker for their lies. They have insulted and scared off the moderate minded people we used to chat to on the last forum. I used to enjoy chatting to them but now except for the odd one there are just bastards left. I have no need to defend myself from the likes of bastards and for the others, it is an intelligence test. Do you want to become a bastard like them or can you take a moral and independent view and rise above the shit.
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Post by Orac on Aug 8, 2023 10:26:20 GMT
For me whether GB news can be painted in as transgressing a regulatory framework is something of a side issue. I'm more interested in the notion of a government controlled media (like they have in China). You don't appear to want to talk about that very much.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 8, 2023 11:19:54 GMT
For me whether GB news can be painted in as transgressing a regulatory framework is something of a side issue. I'm more interested in the notion of a government controlled media (like they have in China). You don't appear to want to talk about that very much. Governments always control media. The TV station is the first thing a coup would seize.
I personally find the Chinese state media very accurate. I get my info from a wide variety of sources but rarely find an error in their output. I readily admit I absolutely do not know everything, but in the areas I do know it checks out. If there were ever an inaccuracy in what I am certain about it is nearly always a subtle point where the misunderstanding is more of a cultural thing. I readily admit I can make these errors far easier than they do when it comes to understanding Chinese culture, so instead of bitching at them I explain the issues and they come to me and thank me for the help. Next time they cover that point they take these things into account and improve the presentation. I can only be taken this seriously by being meticulously honest myself. Honesty and accuracy in China is highly revered, a certain cultural trait you would learn if you studied their culture.
It fits my approach so we see eye to eye. I also help them on matters to do with physics like quantum mechanics which gets a very high level of appreciation. These kids are hungry for knowledge. In short I'm accepted and appreciated over there, but in my own country it could not be further than the opposite. The population is lazy, vindictive, stupid, misinformed and about half a dozen other negative traits. Looking at the world when you measure up these two cultures side by side you can clearly see why China has become the number two largest economy in the world, and without killing anyone either through wars and looting. It's all done with capitalism. The government people themselves have capitalist mindsets.
Oh and one other thing I like is in China the system is rather informal. Over here all the politicians put on this act of pretending to be above us, like Mogg and Co if you know what I mean. The government people in China are less formal and more human, and retain a sense of humour. It's another subtle thing the GB News idiots just done see as their minds are vulgar and think like simpletons. It's like listening to music. A dumb twit might only hear the main features like the beat and the lyrics, where a connoisseur will pick out the subtle intonation and get far more intelligence from it. Their blustering attitude is essentially blinding them.
By the way, interesting fact - how long does it take on average to reach a very basic proficiency in another language. For English speakers the European languages are rated at about 13-14 weeks. Other languages tend to take longer, but China is the most difficult at 88 weeks. That should tell you something about why we have the problems we do. The thickos just don't get it. They can't even be bothered to try.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2023 13:33:11 GMT
China does not tell GB News what to publish. Mind you they don't need to as they just have to wait until it shoots itself in its foot.
GB News isn't in China - a point I have been making throughout The question still stands. Wouldn't you find such a situation preferable? Why hang about in the west when what you want is available and directly applied? However China are well entrenched in GB and probably using all their influence to try to stop any TV station telling the truth about their peccadillos. |
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Post by Orac on Aug 8, 2023 13:55:35 GMT
GB News isn't in China - a point I have been making throughout The question still stands. Wouldn't you find such a situation preferable? Why hang about in the west when what you want is available and directly applied? However China are well entrenched in GB and probably using all their influence to try to stop any TV station telling the truth about their peccadillos. Yes. I think it's also doubtful that Baron coincidentally became obsessed with the accuracy of that one news station in particular. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 8, 2023 14:08:03 GMT
China is trying to infleunce UK opinion in favour of it, but it is mostly to do with showing the positives that get censored on the MSM and providing a right of reply. They do not tend to do as you suggest and try and get ahead by attacking the opposition, rather they try and get ahead by improving their own game. It's just another misunderstanding both of you have because you have not understood Chinese culture. What is obvious here often does not happen in China. Imagine a totally alien world where you can not take anything for granted. That's the way you have to see China as a novice. It will come into focus gradually if you have an open mind. If you just believe I'm wrong when I'm telling you the truth then you will get nowhere. You will be just as dumb in ten years from now. The big mistake is to use your experience of British society and try and overlay that on Chinese society. It just does not fit.
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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 15, 2023 21:15:52 GMT
I flicked on GB News last Sunday once I'd finished with Trevor Phillips and Laura Kuensberg. They cut to an arts review, and started with a review of a Shakespeare play at the Globe. This interested me as we took my mum for her 90th birthday last month. Her first time there and we had a fantastic time.
Presenters question to the reviewer :
Was there any woke in the performance because that would put me off?
I mean. FFS.
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 15, 2023 21:22:18 GMT
I flicked on GB News last Sunday once I'd finished with Trevor Phillips and Laura Kuensberg. They cut to an arts review, and started with a review of a Shakespeare play at the Globe. This interested me as we took my mum for her 90th birthday last month. Her first time there and we had a fantastic time. Presenters question to the reviewer : Was there any woke in the performance because that would put me off? I mean. FFS. Well don't keep us in suspense - was there any? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 15, 2023 21:27:21 GMT
Apparently not. Sorry to disappoint you! 😂
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Post by johnofgwent on Sept 16, 2023 5:39:57 GMT
GB News isn't in China - a point I have been making throughout The question still stands. Wouldn't you find such a situation preferable? Why hang about in the west when what you want is available and directly applied? However China are well entrenched in GB and probably using all their influence to try to stop any TV station telling the truth about their peccadillos. and outside the great firewall of china, now their potentially noxiius hardware is no longer allowed near our internet infrastructure, that’s all they can do. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 18, 2023 14:21:05 GMT
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 18, 2023 14:31:44 GMT
Of those 45 complaints, I wonder how many of them were from left wing pro EU Labour voters who only watch GB News to complain about it. It's a poser, innit. |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 18, 2023 14:37:21 GMT
And what about the defunct BBC breaking impartiality rules? Or doesn't that count as they are a mouthpiece for the EUSSR? |
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