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Post by Orac on Jul 29, 2023 10:19:09 GMT
Give it up, Baron
People in the west in general don't want to switch over to central committee controlled media system. Until the Chinese communist party is finally victorious, it's likely you are going to have to put up with people disagreeing with you in public and not being punished or silenced.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 29, 2023 11:35:09 GMT
Give it up, Baron People in the west in general don't want to switch over to central committee controlled media system. Until the Chinese communist party is finally victorious, it's likely you are going to have to put up with people disagreeing with you in public and not being punished or silenced. People on here are stupid. I tried to add a bit of intelligence and I'm shot down for it. So what you say is give up trying to stimulate their brains. Let them believe whatever they want. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2023 13:50:48 GMT
Give it up, Baron People in the west in general don't want to switch over to central committee controlled media system. Until the Chinese communist party is finally victorious, it's likely you are going to have to put up with people disagreeing with you in public and not being punished or silenced. People on here are stupid. I tried to add a bit of intelligence and I'm shot down for it. So what you say is give up trying to stimulate their brains. Let them believe whatever they want. We truly appreciate your gallant attempts to educate the stupid, Baron. However your post here could be used as an example of what constitutes a strawman argument. Orac said A. You say he says B, criticising him for something he did not say. A totally dishonest system of argument, which leads nowhere. You have implied that GB News tell lies, perhaps you could give examples. Does it relate to them criticising your beloved China, by any chance? |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 29, 2023 14:21:50 GMT
People on here are stupid. I tried to add a bit of intelligence and I'm shot down for it. So what you say is give up trying to stimulate their brains. Let them believe whatever they want. We truly appreciate your gallant attempts to educate the stupid, Baron. However your post here could be used as an example of what constitutes a strawman argument. Orac said A. You say he says B, criticising him for something he did not say. A totally dishonest system of argument, which leads nowhere. You have implied that GB News tell lies, perhaps you could give examples. Does it relate to them criticising your beloved China, by any chance? Have I not told you about the economist who said food price rises were the supermarkets profit and that supply prices have been stable for the raw ingredients? He is a liar and the main GB News Economics spokesman. I can claim that because there was an investigation into this very issue and a report was published with the findings.
The trouble is you either don't read my posts or you forget what I said when having read them.
GB News is treading on sensitive political grounds as it is with its anti-woke politics. it's pissing the left off and the left are like those regulator people who have some clout.
GB News is also pissing the capitalists off who are trying to sell their products and need way to inform their customers.
These are just facts, whether you like them or not. So don't bitch at me, like the previous post. I don't make a lot of posts on here anymore now. Most of my more intelligent ones are ignored and this one is only attended because you ideologues see it as an attack on your very person. If you really want a station like GB News to succeed and destroy leftwing stupidity, then you gotta pull your socks up and get smart and don't try and cheat.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2023 14:28:10 GMT
We truly appreciate your gallant attempts to educate the stupid, Baron. However your post here could be used as an example of what constitutes a strawman argument. Orac said A. You say he says B, criticising him for something he did not say. A totally dishonest system of argument, which leads nowhere. You have implied that GB News tell lies, perhaps you could give examples. Does it relate to them criticising your beloved China, by any chance? Have I not told you about the economist who said food price rises were the supermarkets profit and that supply prices have been stable for the raw ingredients? He is a liar and the main GB News Economics spokesman. I can claim that because there was an investigation into this very issue and a report was published with the findings.
The trouble is you either don't read my posts or you forget what I said when having read them.
GB News is treading on sensitive political grounds as it is with its anti-woke politics. it's pissing the left off and the left are like those regulator people who have some clout.
GB News is also pissing the capitalists off who are trying to sell their products and need way to inform their customers.
These are just facts, whether you like them or not. So don't bitch at me, like the previous post. I don't make a lot of posts on here anymore now. Most of my more intelligent ones are ignored and this one is only attended because you ideologues see it as an attack on your very person. If you really want a station like GB News to succeed and destroy leftwing stupidity, then you gotta pull your socks up and get smart and don't try and cheat.
The truth sometimes hurts, Baron. Like the truth about the oppressive Chinese Communist Party, which has people as slaves if their religion offends the CCP, but that's the sort of truth you stick your fingers in your ears and shout la la la. I already told you, Liam Halligan's little finger knows more about economics than any keyboard warrior. People who disagree with your PoV are not liars. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 29, 2023 15:15:31 GMT
Have I not told you about the economist who said food price rises were the supermarkets profit and that supply prices have been stable for the raw ingredients? He is a liar and the main GB News Economics spokesman. I can claim that because there was an investigation into this very issue and a report was published with the findings.
The trouble is you either don't read my posts or you forget what I said when having read them.
GB News is treading on sensitive political grounds as it is with its anti-woke politics. it's pissing the left off and the left are like those regulator people who have some clout.
GB News is also pissing the capitalists off who are trying to sell their products and need way to inform their customers.
These are just facts, whether you like them or not. So don't bitch at me, like the previous post. I don't make a lot of posts on here anymore now. Most of my more intelligent ones are ignored and this one is only attended because you ideologues see it as an attack on your very person. If you really want a station like GB News to succeed and destroy leftwing stupidity, then you gotta pull your socks up and get smart and don't try and cheat.
The truth sometimes hurts, Baron. Like the truth about the oppressive Chinese Communist Party, which has people as slaves if their religion offends the CCP, but that's the sort of truth you stick your fingers in your ears and shout la la la. I already told you, Liam Halligan's little finger knows more about economics than any keyboard warrior. People who disagree with your PoV are not liars. A profit margin number is not a point of view. Try objectivity eh?
Try this for more facts on GB News
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legatum_Institute
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 7, 2023 21:24:36 GMT
I was right. Ofcom are now investigating GB News on four different occasions in their recent broadcasts, and it involves Mogg.
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Post by Orac on Aug 7, 2023 22:42:45 GMT
I was right. Ofcom are now investigating GB News on four different occasions in their recent broadcasts, and it involves Mogg. You aren't 'right' as such, you just feel all opposition to Chinese communist party should be crushed everywhere. I do feel that it might be better if people like you were simply asked to leave the country or find a way of integrating themselves into a democratic society. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 7, 2023 23:14:58 GMT
I was right. Ofcom are now investigating GB News on four different occasions in their recent broadcasts, and it involves Mogg. You aren't 'right' as such, you just feel all opposition to Chinese communist party should be crushed everywhere. I do feel that it might be better if people like you were simply asked to leave the country or find a way of integrating themselves into a democratic society. Why the insults? I am right. I got the news today from a professor guy who reads the newspapers for me and lets me know in five minutes what takes serval hours of reading otherwise. It's to do with News broadcast being too close to political opinion. Your trouble is you can't admit when I have made a good prediction. |
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Post by Orac on Aug 7, 2023 23:22:44 GMT
You aren't 'right' as such, you just feel all opposition to Chinese communist party should be crushed everywhere. I do feel that it might be better if people like you were simply asked to leave the country or find a way of integrating themselves into a democratic society. Why the insults? I am right. I got the news today from a professor guy who reads the newspapers for me and lets me know in five minutes what takes serval hours of reading otherwise. It's to do with News broadcast being too close to political opinion. Your trouble is you can't admit when I have made a good prediction. Why take it is an insult? If you feel news broadcasters should be closed down for stepping on the wrong toes, I can't imagine you have a principled objection to people being asked to leave the country for their opinions. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 7, 2023 23:30:41 GMT
Why the insults? I am right. I got the news today from a professor guy who reads the newspapers for me and lets me know in five minutes what takes serval hours of reading otherwise. It's to do with News broadcast being too close to political opinion. Your trouble is you can't admit when I have made a good prediction. Why take it is an insult? If you feel news broadcasters should be closed down for stepping on the wrong toes, I can't imagine you have a principled objection to people being asked to leave the country for their opinions. I just reported a fact which is what I predicted in the title. The second fact is you are wrong. GB News are now facing an investigation on four charges. That's it, nothing to do with China or anything else but the title of the thread. |
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Post by Orac on Aug 7, 2023 23:44:44 GMT
Why take it is an insult? If you feel news broadcasters should be closed down for stepping on the wrong toes, I can't imagine you have a principled objection to people being asked to leave the country for their opinions. I just reported a fact which is what I predicted in the title. The second fact is you are wrong. GB News are now facing an investigation on four charges. That's it, nothing to do with China or anything else but the title of the thread. I maintain that it would probably be for the best if people like yourself were just asked to leave and make a life elsewhere. I can call that a 'fact' as well. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 8, 2023 0:03:05 GMT
I just reported a fact which is what I predicted in the title. The second fact is you are wrong. GB News are now facing an investigation on four charges. That's it, nothing to do with China or anything else but the title of the thread. I maintain that it would probably be for the best if people like yourself were just asked to leave and make a life elsewhere. I can call that a 'fact' as well. Do you? That's interesting that you call it a probability and a fact at the same time. I guess that covers your options though. Unfortunately for GB New, there is no probability about it, as Ofcom have announced it themselves, hence why the papers report it. If I had been running GB News I'd have got the hunch that something was wrong long time back. You can push these things so far, then when they come for you they do the whole thing, like a greasy lawyer does. |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 8, 2023 7:39:51 GMT
I maintain that it would probably be for the best if people like yourself were just asked to leave and make a life elsewhere. I can call that a 'fact' as well. Do you? That's interesting that you call it a probability and a fact at the same time. I guess that covers your options though. Unfortunately for GB New, there is no probability about it, as Ofcom have announced it themselves, hence why the papers report it. If I had been running GB News I'd have got the hunch that something was wrong long time back. You can push these things so far, then when they come for you they do the whole thing, like a greasy lawyer does. Funny how the assumption is that something is wrong with GB news as opposed to something being wrong with Ofcom. |
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Post by Orac on Aug 8, 2023 8:11:06 GMT
I maintain that it would probably be for the best if people like yourself were just asked to leave and make a life elsewhere. I can call that a 'fact' as well. Do you? That's interesting that you call it a probability and a fact at the same time. I guess that covers your options though. Unfortunately for GB New, there is no probability about it, as Ofcom have announced it themselves, hence why the papers report it. If I had been running GB News I'd have got the hunch that something was wrong long time back. You can push these things so far, then when they come for you they do the whole thing, like a greasy lawyer does. In China the media is completely and overtly controlled by the government and the authorities don't have to mess around finding an excuse. Wouldn't you find that situation preferable? |
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