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Post by jonksy on Oct 31, 2022 11:00:51 GMT
Who in the right mind would when we have nutters like putin and rocket man araound. Oh let me guess LABOUR would.. You are wilfully conflating a general desire by progressively minded people in general to ban all nukes globally - more an aspiration and conditional upon everyone doing so, which is unlikely - with some imagined policy of unilateral nuclear disarmament which does not actually exist. In other words you have adopted the standard right wing tactic when all else fails of making shit up.
All of course designed to distract us from the security disasters that the nation was actually being exposed to by those rancid, judgementally dubious, and incompetent Tories. Boris Johnson actually knighted the son of a KGB spy, and went to dubious parties, as well as leaving sensitive documents laying around. Meanwhile, Truss allowed her phone to be hacked whilst Foreign Secretary, and Suella Braverman - aka Leaky Sue - seems about as watertight as a fucking sieve. You couldn't make this shit up, yet you seek to distract us from it - rather than actually discussing it - by a dubious bit of whataboutery that exists only in your own head Far from it. How much have labour had from Russia? |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 31, 2022 11:02:36 GMT
Operation Labour: how Soviet spooks infiltrated the left Wilson and Corbyn are just two of the leading figures of British socialism who have struggled to escape the shadow of the Red spy network, writes Ben Macintyre
Labour MP received £500,000 in funding from Chinese Communist agent
Barry Gardiner said he kept security services fully informed, after MI5 warned MPs they are being targeted by Beijing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2022 11:07:48 GMT
You are wilfully conflating a general desire by progressively minded people in general to ban all nukes globally - more an aspiration and conditional upon everyone doing so, which is unlikely - with some imagined policy of unilateral nuclear disarmament which does not actually exist. In other words you have adopted the standard right wing tactic when all else fails of making shit up.
All of course designed to distract us from the security disasters that the nation was actually being exposed to by those rancid, judgementally dubious, and incompetent Tories. Boris Johnson actually knighted the son of a KGB spy, and went to dubious parties, as well as leaving sensitive documents laying around. Meanwhile, Truss allowed her phone to be hacked whilst Foreign Secretary, and Suella Braverman - aka Leaky Sue - seems about as watertight as a fucking sieve. You couldn't make this shit up, yet you seek to distract us from it - rather than actually discussing it - by a dubious bit of whataboutery that exists only in your own head Far from it. How much have labour had from Russia? Far less than the corrupt Tories I expect. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2022 11:11:41 GMT
Operation Labour: how Soviet spooks infiltrated the left Wilson and Corbyn are just two of the leading figures of British socialism who have struggled to escape the shadow of the Red spy network, writes Ben Macintyre
Labour MP received £500,000 in funding from Chinese Communist agent
Barry Gardiner said he kept security services fully informed, after MI5 warned MPs they are being targeted by Beijing.
So one MP was a bit suspect and had tabs kept on him by the security services with the full cooperation of the party hierarchy, hardly in the same league as Tory hobnobbing with wealthy Russians at the highest level. Which you curiously don't want to discuss and have no answer to. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 31, 2022 11:22:26 GMT
Operation Labour: how Soviet spooks infiltrated the left Wilson and Corbyn are just two of the leading figures of British socialism who have struggled to escape the shadow of the Red spy network, writes Ben Macintyre
Labour MP received £500,000 in funding from Chinese Communist agent
Barry Gardiner said he kept security services fully informed, after MI5 warned MPs they are being targeted by Beijing.
So one MP was a bit suspect and had tabs kept on him by the security services with the full cooperation of the party hierarchy, hardly in the same league as Tory hobnobbing with wealthy Russians at the highest level. Which you curiously don't want to discuss and have no answer to. Starmer supported corbyn. And now all of sudden he is a supporter of Nukes and we all know what a blatant liar he is.
And no I am not afaraid to discuss it. Just more lefty sanctimonius hypocrisy yet again.
Labour is accused of 'rank hypocrisy' for calling on the Tories to return £2million in Russian-linked donations but refusing to do the same
Labour accused of 'hypocrisy' for not saying if Russia-linked £1m will be returned
It received it from hedge fund tycoon with business connections with Russia
Labour claimed such donors gave Tories £1.93m since Boris Johnson became PM
But Tory MP Alec Shelbrooke has called the party's callout 'rank hypocrisy'
Gordon Brown’s office took Russian bank’s money
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 31, 2022 11:23:42 GMT
Theresa May makes Johnson foreign secretary, Johnson slips his security detail and parties with KGB agents. Johnson leaves top secret documents about for anyone to see. Braverman uses he own phone to send sensitive documents to all and sundry. Truss's phone hacked by the Russians. Johnson, Truss and Case decide not to publish the facts and bury it. Truss becomes PM. These things we now know, what else don't we know. The Tories are putting us all in danger. I'm convinced the deep state booted Truss out because she was not going to sell our country down the river like Johnson and others. It's usually the way: the good ones are painted bad and the bad ones are promoted. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 31, 2022 11:28:14 GMT
Supporting a nuclear ban is not the same as disarming. Why don't you support a total ban on nukes?Who in the right mind would when we have nutters like putin and rocket man araound. Oh let me guess LABOUR would.. President Putin is not a nutter. It's your country's people who are the nutters. This is why the sanctions have backfired, because the nutters are batting for the UK and making a pigs ear of it. I think they have some explaining to do. Did they really believe we would not be affected by sanctions because we only used 3% of Russian gas? |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 31, 2022 11:31:42 GMT
Who in the right mind would when we have nutters like putin and rocket man araound. Oh let me guess LABOUR would.. President Putin is not a nutter. It's your country's people who are the nutters. This is why the sanctions have backfired, because the nutters are batting for the UK and making a pigs ear of it. I think they have some explaining to do. Did they really believe we would not be affected by sanctions because we only used 3% of Russian gas? Putin is a nutter plain and simple. He thought he could illegaly invade another nation with impunity.....Bad move. |
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Post by piglet on Oct 31, 2022 11:33:09 GMT
Putin isnt mad, all the people he has killed in countless wars deserved it. The Syrians did, barrel bombs, gas, etc, for gods sake, well done vlad. Chechnya, wow, the plugged a load there. Ukraine, bound, tortured shot, buried alive etc. Are you telling me you would not do the same?
Are you nuts redrum? Dirty nuclear bomb, lets get to it, fire it chuck.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2022 11:46:31 GMT
So one MP was a bit suspect and had tabs kept on him by the security services with the full cooperation of the party hierarchy, hardly in the same league as Tory hobnobbing with wealthy Russians at the highest level. Which you curiously don't want to discuss and have no answer to. Starmer supported corbyn. And now all of sudden he is a supporter of Nukes and we all know what a blatant liar he is.
And no I am not afaraid to discuss it. Just more lefty sanctimonius hypocrisy yet again.
Labour is accused of 'rank hypocrisy' for calling on the Tories to return £2million in Russian-linked donations but refusing to do the same
Labour accused of 'hypocrisy' for not saying if Russia-linked £1m will be returned
It received it from hedge fund tycoon with business connections with Russia
Labour claimed such donors gave Tories £1.93m since Boris Johnson became PM
But Tory MP Alec Shelbrooke has called the party's callout 'rank hypocrisy'
Gordon Brown’s office took Russian bank’s money
Anything else you require help with?
Quoting the Daily Mail at me is most unconvincing. You might just as well quote the Beano |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 31, 2022 12:03:06 GMT
Starmer supported corbyn. And now all of sudden he is a supporter of Nukes and we all know what a blatant liar he is.
And no I am not afaraid to discuss it. Just more lefty sanctimonius hypocrisy yet again.
Labour is accused of 'rank hypocrisy' for calling on the Tories to return £2million in Russian-linked donations but refusing to do the same
Labour accused of 'hypocrisy' for not saying if Russia-linked £1m will be returned
It received it from hedge fund tycoon with business connections with Russia
Labour claimed such donors gave Tories £1.93m since Boris Johnson became PM
But Tory MP Alec Shelbrooke has called the party's callout 'rank hypocrisy'
Gordon Brown’s office took Russian bank’s money
Anything else you require help with?
Quoting the Daily Mail at me is most unconvincing. You might just as well quote the BeanoUsual lefty MO attack the source and not the content. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2022 12:15:27 GMT
Quoting the Daily Mail at me is most unconvincing. You might just as well quote the BeanoUsual lefty MO attack the source and not the content. The Mail is notoriously unreliable in it's content. And in any case, that's a bit rich coming from you. The seriously and shockingly inept handling of security by the Tories in recent years completely ignored by you. No answer to it. No justification for it. No minimising of it. Nothing but what about the other lot, the most intellectually feeble line of attack imaginable by someone who has nothing else. Cannot defend the indefensible so attack the other lot instead. And most of your pathetic whataboutery is either straw man bullshit like Labour's policy of unilateral nuclear disarmament which exists only in your own head, or an individual potentially dodgy character who was never anywhere near high office. And thus in no way is on the same level as Tory shenanigans of late anyway. Truly pathetic effort. |
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Post by Vinny on Oct 31, 2022 12:59:33 GMT
The Saudis also hire British ex RAF pilots as trainers.
Shouldn't be allowed to.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 31, 2022 14:06:36 GMT
President Putin is not a nutter. It's your country's people who are the nutters. This is why the sanctions have backfired, because the nutters are batting for the UK and making a pigs ear of it. I think they have some explaining to do. Did they really believe we would not be affected by sanctions because we only used 3% of Russian gas? Putin is a nutter plain and simple. He thought he could illegaly invade another nation with impunity.....Bad move. Do you have quote from him to substantiate this claim? I've heard him think a lot of things and never what you say. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 31, 2022 14:13:23 GMT
Usual lefty MO attack the source and not the content. The Mail is notoriously unreliable in it's content. And in any case, that's a bit rich coming from you. The seriously and shockingly inept handling of security by the Tories in recent years completely ignored by you. No answer to it. No justification for it. No minimising of it. Nothing but what about the other lot, the most intellectually feeble line of attack imaginable by someone who has nothing else. Cannot defend the indefensible so attack the other lot instead. And most of your pathetic whataboutery is either straw man bullshit like Labour's policy of unilateral nuclear disarmament which exists only in your own head, or an individual potentially dodgy character who was never anywhere near high office. And thus in no way is on the same level as Tory shenanigans of late anyway. Truly pathetic effort.I agree your support for labours fuck ups over nukes and their involment with CND are a Truly pathetic effort |
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