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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2022 8:05:43 GMT
Why are British pilots training Chinese pilots to shoot down western jets. linkThis is from the lying Mail, so I assume it's not true but if it is the Conservatives have a lot to answer for.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2022 9:12:38 GMT
It's answered in the article. A legal loophole. It ends with: " The Ministry of Defence said: ‘We are taking decisive steps to stop Chinese recruitment schemes attempting to head-hunt serving and former UK Amed Forces pilots, who are already subject to the Official Secrets Act.
‘We are reviewing the use of confidentiality contracts and non-disclosure agreements, while the new National Security Bill will create additional tools to tackle security challenges, including this one.’"
Why didn't Labour ever mention it?
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 29, 2022 9:54:07 GMT
Why are British pilots training Chinese pilots to shoot down western jets. linkThis is from the lying Mail, so I assume it's not true but if it is the Conservatives have a lot to answer for. The US is starting to attack China again so as to boost the earnings of their "defence industry". The Daily Mail is a business which does prostitutes for hire if any fascist government wants to hire.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2022 11:41:56 GMT
It's answered in the article. A legal loophole. It ends with: " The Ministry of Defence said: ‘We are taking decisive steps to stop Chinese recruitment schemes attempting to head-hunt serving and former UK Amed Forces pilots, who are already subject to the Official Secrets Act.
‘We are reviewing the use of confidentiality contracts and non-disclosure agreements, while the new National Security Bill will create additional tools to tackle security challenges, including this one.’"
Why didn't Labour ever mention it?
Britain's Ministry of Defence sent serving Royal Air Force pilots to China to teach a course to their Chinese counterparts and allowed Chinese nationals to study at UK military colleges, Sky News can reveal.
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Post by sword on Oct 29, 2022 12:28:15 GMT
It's answered in the article. A legal loophole. It ends with: " The Ministry of Defence said: ‘We are taking decisive steps to stop Chinese recruitment schemes attempting to head-hunt serving and former UK Amed Forces pilots, who are already subject to the Official Secrets Act.
‘We are reviewing the use of confidentiality contracts and non-disclosure agreements, while the new National Security Bill will create additional tools to tackle security challenges, including this one.’"
Why didn't Labour ever mention it?
Britain's Ministry of Defence sent serving Royal Air Force pilots to China to teach a course to their Chinese counterparts and allowed Chinese nationals to study at UK military colleges, Sky News can reveal. Yes it shows how full of shit the government is when lecturing China.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 29, 2022 12:45:18 GMT
Britain's Ministry of Defence sent serving Royal Air Force pilots to China to teach a course to their Chinese counterparts and allowed Chinese nationals to study at UK military colleges, Sky News can reveal. Yes it shows how full of shit the government is when lecturing China. Here's a question for you. When was our government not full of shit?
I think you have to go back to the days before the dissolution of the monasteries.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2022 7:18:26 GMT
It's answered in the article. A legal loophole. It ends with: " The Ministry of Defence said: ‘We are taking decisive steps to stop Chinese recruitment schemes attempting to head-hunt serving and former UK Amed Forces pilots, who are already subject to the Official Secrets Act.
‘We are reviewing the use of confidentiality contracts and non-disclosure agreements, while the new National Security Bill will create additional tools to tackle security challenges, including this one.’"
Why didn't Labour ever mention it?
Britain's Ministry of Defence sent serving Royal Air Force pilots to China to teach a course to their Chinese counterparts and allowed Chinese nationals to study at UK military colleges, Sky News can reveal. Perhaps there were limits to what they were teaching. As we have discovered the UK was attempting to build mutual cooperation with China, where knowledge goes both ways. Sadly, now that China, or its government, is considered a threat, it looks very bad.
I am curious why the opposition never mentioned any of this. I can only speculate, but they may have went along with it at the time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2022 8:31:08 GMT
Britain's Ministry of Defence sent serving Royal Air Force pilots to China to teach a course to their Chinese counterparts and allowed Chinese nationals to study at UK military colleges, Sky News can reveal. Perhaps there were limits to what they were teaching. As we have discovered the UK was attempting to build mutual cooperation with China, where knowledge goes both ways. Sadly, now that China, or its government, is considered a threat, it looks very bad.
I am curious why the opposition never mentioned any of this. I can only speculate, but they may have went along with it at the time.
China has always been a threat, even in peace. It has nothing to do with the opposition, the Tories are a threat to our national security.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2022 8:47:30 GMT
Perhaps there were limits to what they were teaching. As we have discovered the UK was attempting to build mutual cooperation with China, where knowledge goes both ways. Sadly, now that China, or its government, is considered a threat, it looks very bad.
I am curious why the opposition never mentioned any of this. I can only speculate, but they may have went along with it at the time.
China has always been a threat, even in peace. It has nothing to do with the opposition, the Tories are a threat to our national security. China is a fascinating country with a rich history and tradition. A lot changed when the Communists attempted, with a lot of success, to purge those who opposed the far-left at the time. The issue is the CCP, because they, not the state, basically own China's military so there's little chance of an opposition. The CCP is not China.
To outright dismiss the opposition would require something for me to go on. Without evidence to support that it "has nothing to do with the opposition" I cannot, in all honesty, dismiss it. Either they're incompetent or in agreement.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2022 9:15:23 GMT
China has always been a threat, even in peace. It has nothing to do with the opposition, the Tories are a threat to our national security. China is a fascinating country with a rich history and tradition. A lot changed when the Communists attempted, with a lot of success, to purge those who opposed the far-left at the time. The issue is the CCP, because they, not the state, basically own China's military so there's little chance of an opposition. The CCP is not China.
To outright dismiss the opposition would require something for me to go on. Without evidence to support that it "has nothing to do with the opposition" I cannot, in all honesty, dismiss it. Either they're incompetent or in agreement.
The Tories are in charge it matters not whether Labour support it or not. The Tories are a threat to our security.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2022 9:21:34 GMT
China is a fascinating country with a rich history and tradition. A lot changed when the Communists attempted, with a lot of success, to purge those who opposed the far-left at the time. The issue is the CCP, because they, not the state, basically own China's military so there's little chance of an opposition. The CCP is not China.
To outright dismiss the opposition would require something for me to go on. Without evidence to support that it "has nothing to do with the opposition" I cannot, in all honesty, dismiss it. Either they're incompetent or in agreement.
The Tories are in charge it matters not whether Labour support it or not. The Tories are a threat to our security. Well, if both parties support it then Labour is also a threat to our security.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 30, 2022 11:01:48 GMT
Britain's Ministry of Defence sent serving Royal Air Force pilots to China to teach a course to their Chinese counterparts and allowed Chinese nationals to study at UK military colleges, Sky News can reveal. Perhaps there were limits to what they were teaching. As we have discovered the UK was attempting to build mutual cooperation with China, where knowledge goes both ways. Sadly, now that China, or its government, is considered a threat, it looks very bad.
I am curious why the opposition never mentioned any of this. I can only speculate, but they may have went along with it at the time.
Sorry to bring this up but labour did slam the “negligent” government approach to Huawei after U-turn. (those words tasted like vinegar for me to post)
But I am sure there were limits to what the MOD would have entrusted China with.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2022 11:06:18 GMT
The Tories are in charge it matters not whether Labour support it or not. The Tories are a threat to our security. Well, if both parties support it then Labour is also a threat to our security. No-one said they supported it but there was nothing they could do about it, the Tories did not discuss it in the house.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2022 11:30:29 GMT
Well, if both parties support it then Labour is also a threat to our security. No-one said they supported it but there was nothing they could do about it, the Tories did not discuss it in the house. It was a query, and now we're in a position where Labour were just as incompetent. There's no law that prevented pilots and ex-pilots training Chinese pilots. It has apparently been going on for decades, and for all we know many of them may have been gathering information for British intelligence. Still, the Conservative party is working with the MOD to beef up security. Maybe now Labour will also pay more attention.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2022 14:31:37 GMT
No-one said they supported it but there was nothing they could do about it, the Tories did not discuss it in the house. It was a query, and now we're in a position where Labour were just as incompetent. There's no law that prevented pilots and ex-pilots training Chinese pilots. It has apparently been going on for decades, and for all we know many of them may have been gathering information for British intelligence. Still, the Conservative party is working with the MOD to beef up security. Maybe now Labour will also pay more attention. Labour could not debate it therefore how can they be just as incompetent as the Tories?
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