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Post by Dan Dare on May 8, 2024 17:22:47 GMT
I already offered my opinion immediately after the OP. Did you miss it?
Perhaps you feel members should confine themselves to repeating the same opinion over and over and never adding any corroborating detail? Is that the example you suggest we follow?
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Post by Bentley on May 8, 2024 17:26:57 GMT
I already offered my opinion immediately after the OP. Did you miss it? Perhaps you feel members should confine themselves to repeating the same opinion over and over and never adding any corroborating detail? Is that the example you suggest we follow?So did I . It seems to be the very example that you are showing.. So the answer is no. Maybe you should dry your eyes and keep to the subject of the thread . Theres a good lad .👍
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Post by Veronika on May 8, 2024 22:15:29 GMT
Dear Bentley,
Britain and Nazi Germany could just have divided up Africa between themselves. And if they had done that then they would still run Africa today. There would have been no end of Empires. And would Africa be a better place as a result? It would be for all of the poor wildlife, for sure.
Veronika Oleksychenko
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 9, 2024 10:01:07 GMT
That being the case (I'm not agreeing that it is) would it not have made better strategic sense for the British Empire to align itself with the Third Reich rather than the United States. And for it to abstain from Hitler's wars in the East. Hitler always thought so. The US was run by the Mafia in the 20s and 30s.
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Post by Vinny on May 9, 2024 10:42:39 GMT
My grandfather saw the aftermath of war crimes in 1940. He lost friends in that war. He served. He did his duty and I'm fucking proud of him.
One of my great uncles was killed in that war and I'm fucking proud of him too.
Hitler had to be stopped. It was right to stand up to that lunatic.
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Post by Bentley on May 9, 2024 11:57:26 GMT
Dear Bentley, Britain and Nazi Germany could just have divided up Africa between themselves. And if they had done that then they would still run Africa today. There would have been no end of Empires. And would Africa be a better place as a result? It would be for all of the poor wildlife, for sure. Veronika Oleksychenko What makes you think that dividing Africa up in bits would be easy and what makes you think both Germany and Britain wouldn’t exploit the resources in resource rich Africa? Would we kill all the natives and keep Africa as a game reserve or enslave the natives and use them to get to the riches that Africa has ?
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Post by Veronika on May 9, 2024 18:15:02 GMT
Dear Bentley,
I did not say that I think it would be easy to divide up Africa between Britain and Nazi Germany. Although it might have been quite easy actually. And of course the two countries might have used the resources in Africa, it would be so silly not to if you rule the place. But the African continent could now be one huge nature reserve, almost devoid of people, where the wonderful wildlife is not threatened by humanity and where no species face extinction.
Veronika Oleksychenko
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Post by Bentley on May 9, 2024 18:23:21 GMT
Dear Bentley, I did not say that I think it would be easy to divide up Africa between Britain and Nazi Germany. Although it might have been. And of course the two countries might have used the resources in Africa, it would be so silly not to if you rule the place. But just imagine the African continent as one huge nature reserve, almost devoid of people, where the wonderful wildlife is not threatened by humanity and where no species face extinction. Veronika Oleksychenko Well you did post “Britain and Nazi Germany could JUST have divided up Africa between themselves” which seems to suggest it wouldn’t be difficult . You don’t get a huge nature reserve , almost devoid of people ,the size of Africa , without getting rid of millions of people that live there…
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 9, 2024 19:26:20 GMT
My grandfather saw the aftermath of war crimes in 1940. He lost friends in that war. He served. He did his duty and I'm fucking proud of him. One of my great uncles was killed in that war and I'm fucking proud of him too. Hitler had to be stopped. It was right to stand up to that lunatic. Don't you ever worry about the huge number of lives that were lost just so we could stand up to another country's politician?
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Post by Dan Dare on May 9, 2024 20:10:05 GMT
At the time in question, the interwar period, the population of Africa was a small fraction of what it is today. Around 10% in fact. And an even smaller fraction of what the UN projects it will be by the end of the current century, between 2 and 3%.
So if the Anglo-Germans had decided to turn Africa into a giant game reserve in the 1930s it wouldn't have called for the eradication of millions of people since they hadn't yet been born.
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Post by Bentley on May 9, 2024 20:24:47 GMT
According to Google there was 166million people in Africa in 1930 and 240 million in 1950. How many people are needed to make Africa a nature reserve ..almost devoid of people ? Would the two empires restrict the population and by what method?
Note “But the African continent could now be one huge nature reserve, almost devoid of people, where the wonderful wildlife is not threatened by humanity and where no species face extinction.”…Veronika.
😉
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Post by Pacifico on May 9, 2024 21:08:03 GMT
I dunno about anyone else but I would have been very uncomfortable being allied with Germany and Japan.
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Post by Bentley on May 9, 2024 21:13:19 GMT
I dunno about anyone else but I would have been very uncomfortable being allied with Germany and Japan. If the British Empire and Nazi Germany allied pre WW2 would they have allied with Japan ? Japan would have been a natural enemy of the British Empire and afaik it was always going to fall out with the US .
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Post by Dan Dare on May 10, 2024 4:54:15 GMT
According to Google there was 166million people in Africa in 1930 and 240 million in 1950. How many people are needed to make Africa a nature reserve ..almost devoid of people ? Would the two empires restrict the population and by what method? Note “But the African continent could now be one huge nature reserve, almost devoid of people, where the wonderful wildlife is not threatened by humanity and where no species face extinction.”…Veronika. 😉 All they would need to do is let nature run its course and the population of Africa would quite quickly fall to pre-colonial levels.
Compared to the present and certainly compared to current projections the continent would be practically devoid of people.
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Post by Bentley on May 10, 2024 9:39:32 GMT
According to Google there was 166million people in Africa in 1930 and 240 million in 1950. How many people are needed to make Africa a nature reserve ..almost devoid of people ? Would the two empires restrict the population and by what method? Note “But the African continent could now be one huge nature reserve, almost devoid of people, where the wonderful wildlife is not threatened by humanity and where no species face extinction.”…Veronika. 😉 All they would need to do is let nature run its course and the population of Africa would quite quickly fall to pre-colonial levels.
Compared to the present and certainly compared to current projections the continent would be practically devoid of people.
140 million is 140 million away from being devoid of people . People like to make more people too. So either the allies would have to cull the black people or find away to stop them breeding .
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