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Post by Pacifico on Jul 15, 2023 21:20:29 GMT
I think you may find it may have more to do with Monte's predilection for all things woke and left wing, I accept he is not the only offender. Are you suggesting that anyone who deviates from right wing groupthink is unfit to perform the duty of a mod? Yes...  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2023 21:22:08 GMT
Whatever. We've diverted from the topic of the thread enough now. If you wish to continue your accusations against me I suggest you start a thread in the Forum Suggestions and Feedback section or report me. Your advice wasn't taken, unfortunately. Perhaps the thread could be split? In the last week or two we've had Zany the authoritarian telling us what we can post in threads. Then we've had Zany the relatively normal chap wittering on about climate change, bearing in mind his assertions that a rise in temperature from 6C to 12C is a doubling of the temperature. Then we've had Zany the bad boy who ran round the forum trolling everyone and really trying to cause trouble. Now we have Zany the mod baiter. Is this akin to Gandalf the Grey? It's not even that entertaining, tbh it's quite tedious. I agree, and I don't see anyone else behaving this way, so my guess is that the site has been compromised. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jul 15, 2023 21:22:55 GMT
GB News but that's not the point. Now answer the question please. LOL, I was just listening to some outraged lefty on GB News, his name is Benjamin Butterworth. He has worked for the Guardian and the Independent and is very left wing, and a regular on GB News. Why are you avoiding my question? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 15, 2023 21:25:30 GMT
LOL, I was just listening to some outraged lefty on GB News, his name is Benjamin Butterworth. He has worked for the Guardian and the Independent and is very left wing, and a regular on GB News. Why are you avoiding my question? I did answer your question. |
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Post by zanygame on Jul 15, 2023 21:27:11 GMT
GB News but that's not the point. Now answer the question please. LOL, I was just listening to some outraged lefty on GB News, his name is Benjamin Butterworth. He has worked for the Guardian and the Independent and is very left wing, and a regular on GB News. You should quote him more |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jul 15, 2023 21:31:08 GMT
Why are you avoiding my question? I did answer your question. I must have missed it. Could you repeat it please. Do you think being left of centre means I can't perform my duties as a mod fairly? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 15, 2023 21:32:01 GMT
LOL, I was just listening to some outraged lefty on GB News, his name is Benjamin Butterworth. He has worked for the Guardian and the Independent and is very left wing, and a regular on GB News. You should quote him more Lets not be silly, I've never quoted him. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 15, 2023 21:36:22 GMT
I did answer your question. I must have missed it. Could you repeat it please. Do you think being left of centre means I can't perform my duties as a mod fairly? Oh ffs lets not get silly, of course being a lefty would not preclude you or anyone else anyone from performing their duties fairly. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2023 21:41:48 GMT
I must have missed it. Could you repeat it please. Do you think being left of centre means I can't perform my duties as a mod fairly? Oh ffs lets not get silly, of course being a lefty would not preclude you or anyone else anyone from performing their duties fairly. It is interesting how collectivism works, where the sins of the individual becomes the sins of the other collective. Of course, a right wing individual will probably not see it this way, just as I haven't. It is also very interesting how the collective is relied upon to protect the sinner when it's part of the same collective. It should be about putting feelings aside and being above gang related manipulation. If a moderator can do that then the respecties will follow. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 15, 2023 21:47:22 GMT
I am not of a similar political persuasion to Monte but as the vast majority of Moderator decisions come from agreement from the entire Mod group, I dont think singling him out is fair or accurate.
FWIW - I think I am the Mod most responsible for unilateral action who then defends that to the rest of the Mod team.
So can we politely put this issue to bed - thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2023 7:32:34 GMT
You know that's not true. It does not matter if France is a safe country if the asylum seekers want to come to the UK they can but we can refuse them entry if we are not satisfied with their asylum claim. From you answer we can assume that you would not 'welcome' them if they did not pay the people smugglers. It should not be their choice, common sense 'should' suggest that it should be the choice of the country they want to move to. England has been the most densely populated country in Europe since 2007. What's the cut off point? What's the limit on the number of people in this country? 80 million, 100 million? Unfortunately for you it is their choice and something we signed up to and all your blather about it being outdated is just daft. Millions of people are fleeing countries that are experiencing drought, famine and persecution around the world and in the grand scheme of things very few are coming here. Since you like to quote numbers nearly a million people died in the UK last year and just over half a million children were born, we have a reducing population. 45 thousand came in small boats a typical capacity for a premier league football club each week. I do not think anyone wants our country to be overrun by asylum seekers as you and the right wing press tries to impress that we will be but we do have a duty to process asylum seekers and return any who fail. |
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Post by Tinculin on Jul 17, 2023 9:10:53 GMT
Alright,
Firstly, most of the reports are handled after a number of staff have commented on them, and tbh, even when I take action myself, sometimes I get pulled up, and you know what? i'd prefer it that way.
B-4 - you need to stop making personal attacks towards other posters. If you get moderated for it, it's because YOU broke a forum rule, not because Monte is a lefty or Orac is a liberal/righty/whatever, just stop making personal insults and attack the argument, not the poster.
Calling out a moderator, after you've done something wrong, is ridiculous - you're not the victim, you're the guy who broke the rules.
And no, the excuse 'other people do it', doesn't make it okay, we're not in infants, most of you are grown men.
So like many parents used to say, start acting your age.....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2023 12:23:32 GMT
I merely responded to somebody else's abuse and didn't feel I was actually posting any abuse. I also never recieved any notification that I was moderated and merely pointed out how the thread's development looked like manipulation. After all, this somebody I responded to even made posts telling the forum that they will be posting abuse, and now it's very clear why they did this. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jul 17, 2023 12:27:53 GMT
All the mods are members of the site and naturally have their own opinions or bias on the topics under discussion. It is unreasonable to expect them to not have opinions or to keep them to themselves. If not voicing our opinions became a condition of being a mod I can confidently predict that we would all step down and replacements would be very difficult to find.
With the exception of a few decisions taken by the site owner all suspensions have come after a unanimous agreement of the mod team. Political bias does not come into it or we would rarely if ever agree.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 17, 2023 17:46:01 GMT
It should not be their choice, common sense 'should' suggest that it should be the choice of the country they want to move to. England has been the most densely populated country in Europe since 2007. What's the cut off point? What's the limit on the number of people in this country? 80 million, 100 million? Unfortunately for you it is their choice and something we signed up to and all your blather about it being outdated is just daft. Millions of people are fleeing countries that are experiencing drought, famine and persecution around the world and in the grand scheme of things very few are coming here. Since you like to quote numbers nearly a million people died in the UK last year and just over half a million children were born, we have a reducing population. 45 thousand came in small boats a typical capacity for a premier league football club each week. I do not think anyone wants our country to be overrun by asylum seekers as you and the right wing press tries to impress that we will be but we do have a duty to process asylum seekers and return any who fail. This has been covered in some depth earlier in the thread and I cant be bothered repeating myself. Now stop being a pillock and buck yer ideas up, I know it's not going to be easy, but do your best.  |
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