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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2023 9:47:40 GMT
You obviously did not read my post. we dont want to hear anymore of your lame excuses reddy. As ive said before , you would think the dimwits in new labour would make sure they are squeaky clean regarding dirty money before waffling on about other parties. After 13 years of corruption, lies, racism and deceit from the Tories why should Labour be squeaky clean? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2023 9:48:55 GMT
Unlike yourself there appears to be no bias in terms of who to back. We are all biased. Those who claim zero bias usually get laughed at.
Only a complete labour party idiot bleats about dirty russian money in other parties and leaves himself wide open to attacks due to starmers office doing the same.
Its not even just about dirty russian money , its how easily the russians can buy labour politicians , they sell themselves extremely cheaply.
You, obviously did not read my post either.😒 |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2023 9:49:57 GMT
Thats what i was saying to my mate darling , regarding brexit. If starmer can piss on the backs of his own labour party members with such ease , breaking pledge after pledge , can the uk public trust him regading say making brexit work , immigration , the economy and much else?
Im not sure the uk can afford another new labour government.
Starmer if he becomes PM has got his own vision for the UK, and take it from me it's not the one the general public want, and for that matter probably not even the Labour party.
He's got his own agenda, which is why you never get to see or hear of any of his policies, he's a wolf in sheep's clothing, and if he gets into power it will not bode well for the UK.
How do you know what the public want? That's a true blue Tory mantra. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 2, 2023 9:50:45 GMT
Starmer if he becomes PM has got his own vision for the UK, and take it from me it's not the one the general public want, and for that matter probably not even the Labour party.
He's got his own agenda, which is why you never get to see or hear of any of his policies, he's a wolf in sheep's clothing, and if he gets into power it will not bode well for the UK.
How do you know what the public want? That's a true blue Tory mantra. Easy, we want the opposite to what you want. |
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Post by thomas on Jul 2, 2023 9:51:21 GMT
we dont want to hear anymore of your lame excuses reddy. As ive said before , you would think the dimwits in new labour would make sure they are squeaky clean regarding dirty money before waffling on about other parties. After 13 years of corruption, lies, racism and deceit from the Tories why should Labour be squeaky clean? Cant you see it makes you and your party look like utter tits when accusing others of doing similar to what your party is doing? The hypocrisy is mind blowing. |
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Post by thomas on Jul 2, 2023 9:52:59 GMT
Starmer if he becomes PM has got his own vision for the UK, and take it from me it's not the one the general public want, and for that matter probably not even the Labour party.
He's got his own agenda, which is why you never get to see or hear of any of his policies, he's a wolf in sheep's clothing, and if he gets into power it will not bode well for the UK.
How do you know what the public want? how do we public know what labour want when starmers keeps flip flopping and dropping pledges like a hot stone? We cant vote for a party that wont honour its pledges. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2023 9:55:19 GMT
How do you know what the public want? That's a true blue Tory mantra. Easy, we want the opposite to what you want. And what, pray do I want? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2023 9:55:40 GMT
After 13 years of corruption, lies, racism and deceit from the Tories why should Labour be squeaky clean? Cant you see it makes you and your party look like utter tits when accusing others of doing similar to what your party is doing? The hypocrisy is mind blowing. Read my post. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2023 9:56:58 GMT
How do you know what the public want? how do we public know what labour want when starmers keeps flip flopping and dropping pledges like a hot stone? We cant vote for a party that wont honour its pledges. So if you were Starmer you would stand by anything he has said or promised no matter what? |
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Post by thomas on Jul 2, 2023 10:01:20 GMT
Cant you see it makes you and your party look like utter tits when accusing others of doing similar to what your party is doing? The hypocrisy is mind blowing. Read my post. i did. Do you think by constantly implying numerous forum members arent understanding your nuance that then deflects people from criticising the rubbish you post? |
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Post by thomas on Jul 2, 2023 10:05:05 GMT
how do we public know what labour want when starmers keeps flip flopping and dropping pledges like a hot stone? We cant vote for a party that wont honour its pledges. So if you were Starmer you would stand by anything he has said or promised no matter what? Im criticising starmer for two main reason .
1. breaking pledges , which makes him look unelectable and untrustworthy.
2. The stupidity of making a pledge in the first place that he doesnt know he can keep.
So i wouldnt make a pledge in the first place that i knew i wouldnt or couldnt honour. As would most sensible people. Starmer was doing reasonably well sitting on his hands saying nothing hoping the two party stitch up would let him fall into government if the tories imploded.
He had to spoil it by opening his mouth and making worthless pledges then subsequently dropping them.
He wont turn me off from voting though. I will be out voting to stop labour as normal.
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 2, 2023 10:06:05 GMT
Easy, we want the opposite to what you want. And what, pray do I want? Everything we don't. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 2, 2023 10:31:36 GMT
So making money from Russia and giving it to Starmer is good - making money from Russia and giving it to Johnson is bad.. OK - I think we all see where you are coming from.. Unlike yourself there appears to be no bias in terms of who to back. Biased poster accuses other biased poster of bias.. Hold the front page..  |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 2, 2023 10:35:40 GMT
Starmer if he becomes PM has got his own vision for the UK, and take it from me it's not the one the general public want, and for that matter probably not even the Labour party.
He's got his own agenda, which is why you never get to see or hear of any of his policies, he's a wolf in sheep's clothing, and if he gets into power it will not bode well for the UK.
How do you know what the public want? That's a true blue Tory mantra. The irony. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2023 11:43:06 GMT
The Conservative Party have not set out a set of policies for after 2024, neither have the SNP or the Lib Dems.
All we get are indications of what to expect, sometimes we get objectives or goals, sometimes pledges, but the main policy documents of the main political parties are not released until the election.
The Labour Party has published 5 Missions ... full details will follow
Those missions are Build an NHS fit for the future
Secure the highest sustained growth in the G7
Make Britain a clean energy superpower
Make Britains streets safe
Break down barriers to opportunity
If the Conservative Party tells the British electorate to expect more of the same as what they ( The Conservatives ) have brought us over the last 13 years, then your next Prime Minister will be a Knight of the realm with the same name as the founder of the Labour Party.
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