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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 30, 2023 1:44:46 GMT
It's interesting to see a minority of posters on here who are quite content with the sinister undertakings going on by banks. You will rarely ever see a 'lefty' claim 'I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend till death your right to say it'. Whenever I have seen this used politically regarding Freedom of Speech, it has always been used by someone on the right. The liberal progressives and the left, demonstrate just how intolerant and illiberal they really are. They will go to lengths displayed in somewhere like China to de-bank, cancel, shut-down, hound-out people who don't conform to their world wide views. These odious people are anti-democratic and a danger to the so-called 'free-West'. Well said, and perfectly accurate. The next time I hear someone from the left defending my right to speak, will be a first. And to be honest, I'm not holding my breath. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jun 30, 2023 2:02:36 GMT
Erm ... freedom of contract is the bedrock of capitalism, Red. Freedom of contract was to be the basis of Singapore on Thames. Now, freedom of contract has bitten Farage in the arse.  Where do you think he'll go if he has to leave the UK? Since 2010 banks have been legally obliged to provide bank accounts to every UK citizen with a provable residential address. I would have thought Farage probably qualifies. PERSONAL accounts yes. But not BUSINESS accounts. He clearly states in his account he can find people who will give him a personal account, but not a business account The problem is the dishonourable member who posed for a gay dating site in a pair of grubby underpants has publicly, but under protection of parliamentary privilege, accused Farage of conduct violating at least three Prudential Regulation Authority ‘red flags’ and had he done that in tbe street it woukd be relatively trivial to end his parlianentary career tomorrow with a successful libel suit. Sadly tbe grubby bastard cannot be done for his utterance in tbe chamber and the fines for providing banking facilities used for those purposes are unlimited and so are the jail terms the CEO, CFO, MLRO and a dozen others could face IF any of that gay boys rant were actually true If any of you worked in the banking sector as i do you would know this because every bloody six months i have to watch a set of depressing videos showing me i cant pull the stunts Blair did because they are now illegal. Dont blame the banks. Blame Gordon Fucking Brown. He brought in all this crap legislation |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jun 30, 2023 2:08:09 GMT
If the bank has breached its contract with him, he can sue for his losses. That would allow recovery of lost interest. If the terms of the contract allow the bank to terminate the agreement with notice, then we are seeing the consequences of the kind of freedom of contract that Singapore on Thames was meant to flourish on. In which case, poor Nige is just shit out of luck. Contract? Did you sign a contract with your bank? I certainly didn't. This is nothing to do with luck, people behind the scenes have decided to get rid of Farage before the next election. If you think this is good you obviously admire the Chinese communist party. No, Red, i am sorry but you are wrong. Read the details of my last post. What has happened here is a Money Laundering Reporting Officer has reacted to the allegations of that poser in grubby underpants and the system that requires the bank to terminate the accounts of persons suspected of certain behaviours as demanded by Gordon Brown in 2010 has swing into action. If you look in the small print you will see they can donit to you too. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 30, 2023 2:27:04 GMT
Since 2010 banks have been legally obliged to provide bank accounts to every UK citizen with a provable residential address. I would have thought Farage probably qualifies. PERSONAL accounts yes. But not BUSINESS accounts. He clearly states in his account he can find people who will give him a personal account, but not a business account The problem is the dishonourable member who posed for a gay dating site in a pair of grubby underpants has publicly, but under protection of parliamentary privilege, accused Farage of conduct violating at least three Prudential Regulation Authority ‘red flags’ and had he done that in tbe street it woukd be relatively trivial to end his parlianentary career tomorrow with a successful libel suit. Sadly tbe grubby bastard cannot be done for his utterance in tbe chamber and the fines for providing banking facilities used for those purposes are unlimited and so are the jail terms the CEO, CFO, MLRO and a dozen others could face IF any of that gay boys rant were actually true If any of you worked in the banking sector as i do you would know this because every bloody six months i have to watch a set of depressing videos showing me i cant pull the stunts Blair did because they are now illegal. Dont blame the banks. Blame Gordon Fucking Brown. He brought in all this crap legislation Yes, now you mention it, he did say something about a business account. And the dishonourable member you speak of, I'm sure Farage mentioned who it was, is as you say protected by parliamentary privilage. You say I shouldn't blame the banks, but I do blame the banks, I really do blame the banks. Farage hasn't had his account closed because of anything Blair or Brown said. Farage has had his account closed because banks are pro EU globalists, and someone behind the scenes doesn't want Farage around for the next election. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 30, 2023 2:39:09 GMT
Contract? Did you sign a contract with your bank? I certainly didn't. This is nothing to do with luck, people behind the scenes have decided to get rid of Farage before the next election. If you think this is good you obviously admire the Chinese communist party. No, Red, i am sorry but you are wrong. Read the details of my last post. What has happened here is a Money Laundering Reporting Officer has reacted to the allegations of that poser in grubby underpants and the system that requires the bank to terminate the accounts of persons suspected of certain behaviours as demanded by Gordon Brown in 2010 has swing into action. If you look in the small print you will see they can donit to you too. JoG, I never signed a contract with my bank, either of them, one of which I've been with for 24 years. I suppose they may consider the fact that I have an account/s with them to be a contract? You say look in the small print, but I have no small print. I have no written contract. I'm not suggesting this is a get out clause btw, I know they're cleverer than me and in business for their benefit not mine and will have their bases covered. I also know that if they're going to try to fuck Farage over, no ones safe, and that should be a worry. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jun 30, 2023 4:28:55 GMT
No, Red, i am sorry but you are wrong. Read the details of my last post. What has happened here is a Money Laundering Reporting Officer has reacted to the allegations of that poser in grubby underpants and the system that requires the bank to terminate the accounts of persons suspected of certain behaviours as demanded by Gordon Brown in 2010 has swing into action. If you look in the small print you will see they can donit to you too. JoG, I never signed a contract with my bank, either of them, one of which I've been with for 24 years. I suppose they may consider the fact that I have an account/s with them to be a contract? You say look in the small print, but I have no small print. I have no written contract. I'm not suggesting this is a get out clause btw, I know they're cleverer than me and in business for their benefit not mine and will have their bases covered. I also know that if they're going to try to fuck Farage over, no ones safe, and that should be a worry. i understand, although this should not be allowed and i say that as a software developer for a bank. As part of the KYC due diligence they should have realised they have no document on you, sent you one and said either ‘do nothing in which case you are deemed to have accepted these terms including our right to terminate our arrangements with you, or, if you don't like the terms, close the account. These are legal requirements under money laundering and anti terror regulations created 13 years ago, heavily beefed up since. By rights i should report them to the regulator for failure to adhere to the consumer duty regs coming in by 31 july … |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jun 30, 2023 4:33:12 GMT
PERSONAL accounts yes. But not BUSINESS accounts. He clearly states in his account he can find people who will give him a personal account, but not a business account The problem is the dishonourable member who posed for a gay dating site in a pair of grubby underpants has publicly, but under protection of parliamentary privilege, accused Farage of conduct violating at least three Prudential Regulation Authority ‘red flags’ and had he done that in tbe street it woukd be relatively trivial to end his parlianentary career tomorrow with a successful libel suit. Sadly tbe grubby bastard cannot be done for his utterance in tbe chamber and the fines for providing banking facilities used for those purposes are unlimited and so are the jail terms the CEO, CFO, MLRO and a dozen others could face IF any of that gay boys rant were actually true If any of you worked in the banking sector as i do you would know this because every bloody six months i have to watch a set of depressing videos showing me i cant pull the stunts Blair did because they are now illegal. Dont blame the banks. Blame Gordon Fucking Brown. He brought in all this crap legislation Yes, now you mention it, he did say something about a business account. And the dishonourable member you speak of, I'm sure Farage mentioned who it was, is as you say protected by parliamentary privilage. You say I shouldn't blame the banks, but I do blame the banks, I really do blame the banks. Farage hasn't had his account closed because of anything Blair or Brown said. Farage has had his account closed because banks are pro EU globalists, and someone behind the scenes doesn't want Farage around for the next election. I really did mean it when i said they have no choice until he proves he is not breaking sanctions imposed thanks to putin’s warmongering. It’s my day job. I don't like it any mire than you but the banks have zero wiggle room here. And the shitbag who did this to him is Chris Bryant. There really must be some muck on him somewhere …. |
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Post by thomas on Jun 30, 2023 6:35:41 GMT
for a man who supports a party whose members were running around in recent years claiming the russians had forced scotland to vote in favour of the snp , and the english to vote for brexit , its laughable listening to a labour man talk of conspiracy theories.
Everytime keir starmer opens his mouth its one big conspiracy theory , were a pledge made an hour ago is dropped like a hot stone an hour later.
Still, I suppose its better than a political party ravaged by financial impropriety, in-fighting and going the wrong way in the polls Well i dont know sid. The labour party.....a party that has abandoned the working class , represented by a small clique of out of touch metropolitan elite who in turn represent middle class southern english liberals , and a party led by a man who has betrayed every moral and pledge once held.
What could possibly go wrong?
I think due to the first past the post two party stitch up where one party is on its knees so the other falls into place, keir starmer might be the necessary pain we have to go through for a single term to consign the labour party to the dusbin of history where it belongs.
Labour invented the term financial impropriety , starmer fanned the flames of in fighting with his purge of every single socialist he could find in the party , and dont be too sure of yourselves this far out from an election.
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Post by sheepy on Jun 30, 2023 6:55:12 GMT
Not such a good idea, putting the Establishment in charge again Nigel, you have just made them think they are now untouchable, while being backed by a completely totalitarian left. Who are having their strings pulled by said establishment. Anyone who saw or voted for Brexit as a chance of freedom is now being removed or closed down. me thinks you underestimated them and the lengths they would go too.
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Post by sheepy on Jun 30, 2023 6:58:33 GMT
Proving your popularity and waving it under their nose of late is a red rag to a bull. Since when do they care about what the people want anyway, they only care about what they want.
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Post by thomas on Jun 30, 2023 7:06:41 GMT
Yes, now you mention it, he did say something about a business account. And the dishonourable member you speak of, I'm sure Farage mentioned who it was, is as you say protected by parliamentary privilage. You say I shouldn't blame the banks, but I do blame the banks, I really do blame the banks. Farage hasn't had his account closed because of anything Blair or Brown said. Farage has had his account closed because banks are pro EU globalists, and someone behind the scenes doesn't want Farage around for the next election. I really did mean it when i said they have no choice until he proves he is not breaking sanctions imposed thanks to putin’s warmongering. It’s my day job. I don't like it any mire than you but the banks have zero wiggle room here. And the shitbag who did this to him is Chris Bryant. There really must be some muck on him somewhere …. John , there is no legal requirement in the uk for anyone to have a business bank account , with the caveat depending on the structure of your business , and what you want the account for.
None of us know why farage needs a business account. Clearly though this is a politically motivated decision. Not sure what you mean that he has to prove he is not breaking sanctions imposed. I thought in the uk we are all innocent until proven guilty , not the other way around?
If this is a hint about dodgy russian money allegedly floating about in farages account , then why doesnt half the conservative party have their accounts frozen? What about the dodgy labour party and their dealings with dirty money from china? Gordon broons office took an allleged £124 k from russian donors. When you scratch the surface , dirty russian money is found all across the political and business elite around europe. Very few have accounts closed.
Not to mention london being the dirty money laundering capital of the world?
Seems certain individuals , who happen to be linked solely due to political opinions that are not running concurrent with the establishment , are being singled out here.
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Post by thomas on Jun 30, 2023 7:12:13 GMT
JoG, I never signed a contract with my bank, either of them, one of which I've been with for 24 years. I suppose they may consider the fact that I have an account/s with them to be a contract? You say look in the small print, but I have no small print. I have no written contract. I'm not suggesting this is a get out clause btw, I know they're cleverer than me and in business for their benefit not mine and will have their bases covered. I also know that if they're going to try to fuck Farage over, no ones safe, and that should be a worry. These are legal requirements under money laundering and anti terror regulations created 13 years ago, heavily beefed up since. By the way john , we know that banks can and do make politically motivated decisions to close bank accounts that are outside the law.
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Post by thomas on Jun 30, 2023 7:19:34 GMT
Not such a good idea, putting the Establishment in charge again Nigel, you have just made them think they are now untouchable, while being backed by a completely totalitarian left. Who are having their strings pulled by said establishment. Anyone who saw or voted for Brexit as a chance of freedom is now being removed or closed down. me thinks you underestimated them and the lengths they would go too. it seems to be nothing more than labours holier than thou chris bryant accusing farage of receiving £500 k of russian money without a shred of evidence. Who could honestly believe a labour mp would tell porkie pies eh?
Is this them looking at polls , believeing starmer and his pro europeans are a shoe in for the next government , and clearing the decks of brexiter politicos so keir can seamlessly take the uk back into the EU , wether thats by fanfare and trumpets , or more likely signing the uk up behind brussells bike sheds ?
Labour are going to turn the uk from smoulder and smoke into a raging bin fire in my opinion.
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Post by sheepy on Jun 30, 2023 7:28:07 GMT
Not such a good idea, putting the Establishment in charge again Nigel, you have just made them think they are now untouchable, while being backed by a completely totalitarian left. Who are having their strings pulled by said establishment. Anyone who saw or voted for Brexit as a chance of freedom is now being removed or closed down. me thinks you underestimated them and the lengths they would go too. it seems to be nothing more than labours holier than thou chris bryant accusing farage of receiving £500 k of russian money without a shred of evidence. Who could honestly believe a labour mp would tell porkie pies eh?
Is this them looking at polls , believeing starmer and his pro europeans are a shoe in for the next government , and clearing the decks of brexiter politicos so keir can seamlessly take the uk back into the EU , wether thats by fanfare and trumpets , or more likely signing the uk up behind brussells bike sheds ?
Labour are going to turn the uk from smoulder and smoke into a raging bin fire in my opinion.
If only it were just that thomas, it is like night of the long knives being played out under everyone's nose. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 30, 2023 7:59:19 GMT
It's interesting to see a minority of posters on here who are quite content with the sinister undertakings going on by banks. You will rarely ever see a 'lefty' claim 'I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend till death your right to say it'. Whenever I have seen this used politically regarding Freedom of Speech, it has always been used by someone on the right. The liberal progressives and the left, demonstrate just how intolerant and illiberal they really are. They will go to lengths displayed in somewhere like China to de-bank, cancel, shut-down, hound-out people who don't conform to their world wide views. These odious people are anti-democratic and a danger to the so-called 'free-West'. I agree that it is very dodgy if the nicotine-stained manfrog is being forced to leave the country for political reasons. Very dodgy. But if someone has to take a bullet to highlight the problem, it should be the dick who has been calling for a bonfire of rights (deregulation). The irony is just scrumptious. |
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