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Post by Montegriffo on Jul 1, 2023 13:05:08 GMT
I'm not seeing any evidence of ill treatment only Farage claiming victimisation. I think any reasonable person would think having your account closed without a valid reason is being ill treated monte. Surely you need to detach your personal view of the man and his politics from the issue at hand?
I asked andrew up the thread , i havent looked online much this morning but is there a valid reason someone can link me to that i may have missed?
But it's only Nigel saying his account was closed for no reason. The bank has said it was for commercial reasons which backs Om's opinion that it is because the bank doesn't want the extra expense of investigating payments from RT. www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-06-30/brexiteer-farage-says-his-uk-bank-accounts-are-being-closed
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Post by thomas on Jul 1, 2023 13:05:16 GMT
it never seems to work at election time though does it darling , you know when it matters.? We share that sadness, Tommy. Luckily, there are more elections to come. What do we share? I lost a referendum , but won elections. You had to rely on the bbc telling porkies about the EU elections in 2019 , where you supposedly won , but in reality havent won a thing in the last decade as far as i can see.
There is indeed. Its going to be fun watching keir starmer and his new labour party grapple with the binfire they are about to start in the uk if they win the next one. You know , if they enact rejoin in some way , they piss brexiters off with their lies.
If they do indeed support brexit , they piss remainers off with their twisting and turning.
Popcorn at the ready mate.
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Post by Einhorn on Jul 1, 2023 13:07:10 GMT
We share that sadness, Tommy. Luckily, there are more elections to come. What do we share? I lost a referendum , but won elections. You had to rely on the bbc telling porkies about the EU elections in 2019 , where you supposedly won , but in reality havent won a thing in the last decade as far as i can see.
We both participated in a discussion quite recently that highlighted that Parliament is sovereign, Tommy. You agreed that that's the case. So, where's the problem if Parliament holds another referendum? Parliament isn't bound by Cameron's supposed promise that it was once in a generation.
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Post by Einhorn on Jul 1, 2023 13:11:15 GMT
We share that sadness, Tommy. Luckily, there are more elections to come. What do we share? I lost a referendum , but won elections. You had to rely on the bbc telling porkies about the EU elections in 2019 , where you supposedly won , but in reality havent won a thing in the last decade as far as i can see.
There is indeed. Its going to be fun watching keir starmer and his new labour party grapple with the binfire they are about to start in the uk if they win the next one. You know , if they enact rejoin in some way , they piss brexiters off with their lies.
If they do indeed support brexit , they piss remainers off with their twisting and turning.
Popcorn at the ready mate.
What's more, you're confusing The Squeezed Middle. He still thinks you and I are the same person. This is very upsetting for him.
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Post by thomas on Jul 1, 2023 13:17:47 GMT
I think any reasonable person would think having your account closed without a valid reason is being ill treated monte. Surely you need to detach your personal view of the man and his politics from the issue at hand?
I asked andrew up the thread , i havent looked online much this morning but is there a valid reason someone can link me to that i may have missed?
But it's only Nigel saying his account was closed for no reason. The bank has said it was for commercial reasons which backs Om's opinion that it is because the bank doesn't want the extra expense of investigating payments from RT. www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-06-30/brexiteer-farage-says-his-uk-bank-accounts-are-being-closedok thanks for that , but that doesnt make much sense to me either.
Closing an account for commercial reasons isnt an explanation. Its a vague meaningless excuse.
If though it is true , then why have they left him from what ive read with his personal accounts and closed his business one? You dont need a business account to receive alleged bribes ?
Surely personal accounts come under these rules as well?
Business accounts are heavily monitored by HMRC . When you do your tax returns , its your business account statements that are under scrutiny. You would need to be a particulary daft clown to use a business account for receiving bribes.
did gordon brown have his accounts closed for the £124 000 he received from a russian donor? Or any others in labour who received dodgy money? If so , i havent heard anything about it.
passing this off as just normal routine stuff is to me laughable , not to mention inconsistent in terms of it only really seems to apply to those who dont have views running concurrent with the "establishment".
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Post by Montegriffo on Jul 1, 2023 13:22:20 GMT
ok thanks for that , but that doesnt make much sense to me either.
Closing an account for commercial reasons isnt an explanation. Its a vague meaningless excuse.
If though it is true , then why have they left him from what ive read with his personal accounts and closed his business one? You dont need a business account to receive alleged bribes ?
Surely personal accounts come under these rules as well?
Business accounts are heavily monitored by HMRC . When you do your tax returns , its your business account statements that are under scrutiny. You would need to be a particulary daft clown to use a business account for receiving bribes.
did gordon brown have his accounts closed for the £124 000 he received from a russian donor? Or any others in labour who received dodgy money? If so , i havent heard anything about it.
passing this off as just normal routine stuff is to me laughable , not to mention inconsistent in terms of it only really seems to apply to those who dont have views running concurrent with the "establishment".
Passing this off as anti-Brexit victimisation, as Nige is doing, is just as laughable.
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Post by thomas on Jul 1, 2023 13:24:46 GMT
What do we share? I lost a referendum , but won elections. You had to rely on the bbc telling porkies about the EU elections in 2019 , where you supposedly won , but in reality havent won a thing in the last decade as far as i can see.
We both participated in a discussion quite recently that highlighted that Parliament is sovereign, Tommy. You agreed that that's the case. So, where's the problem if Parliament holds another referendum? Parliament isn't bound by Cameron's supposed promise that it was once in a generation. Can i just add the caveat i agree its sovereign in england. Not scotland .
christ knows where you have got this leap of logic going from me pointing out you havent won an election or referendum in the last decade , to you now implying im somehow against further referendums ?
Can you point out where i have said or implied this darling , or is this just a convenient straw man.?
You can hold as many referendums as you like darling. Where i suspect you , and i disagree , is that english remainers only want to implement referendum results they agree with.
Your big problem in the next general election as i see it is keir starmer and his parties duplicity. Telling folk you are going to make brexit work , while potentially secretly plotting to tie the uk back into the eu will set these islands on fire to my mind.
...and as i said , if starmer somehow against all the odds does keep the uk out the EU , then you and your fellow anglo remainers are going to be even more bitter . The big problem is darling , no one is offering you another referendum on the EU as far as i can see.
just more lies and duplicity.
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Post by thomas on Jul 1, 2023 13:27:00 GMT
ok thanks for that , but that doesnt make much sense to me either.
Closing an account for commercial reasons isnt an explanation. Its a vague meaningless excuse.
If though it is true , then why have they left him from what ive read with his personal accounts and closed his business one? You dont need a business account to receive alleged bribes ?
Surely personal accounts come under these rules as well?
Business accounts are heavily monitored by HMRC . When you do your tax returns , its your business account statements that are under scrutiny. You would need to be a particulary daft clown to use a business account for receiving bribes.
did gordon brown have his accounts closed for the £124 000 he received from a russian donor? Or any others in labour who received dodgy money? If so , i havent heard anything about it.
passing this off as just normal routine stuff is to me laughable , not to mention inconsistent in terms of it only really seems to apply to those who dont have views running concurrent with the "establishment".
Passing this off as anti-Brexit victimisation, as Nige is doing, is just as laughable. Monte im not a brexiter. I just find all this disgusting mate.
None of your earlier post makes much sense to me as i said , so im just wondering why farages personal account is somehow excused from these alleged "bribery rules" you pointed out in your post?
The plot thickens.
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Post by Einhorn on Jul 1, 2023 13:27:47 GMT
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Can you point out where i have said or implied this darling , or is this just a convenient straw man.?
You can hold as many referendums as you like darling. Where i suspect you , and i disagree , is that english remainers only want to implement referendum results they agree with.
Remainers can and will insist that the constitution is upheld. There's nothing I can do if you don't like that.
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Post by thomas on Jul 1, 2023 13:32:43 GMT
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Can you point out where i have said or implied this darling , or is this just a convenient straw man.?
You can hold as many referendums as you like darling. Where i suspect you , and i disagree , is that english remainers only want to implement referendum results they agree with.
Remainers can and will insist that the constitution is upheld. There's nothing I can do if you don't like that. you have lost me darling. You have went from demanding further referendums , where the normal principle in demcoracy is to stand on a referendum ticket , get elected by the electorate on that mandate then hold one. I pointed out to you no one is doing that.
...and now , you demand the constitution is upheld. Isnt that what brexiters did between 2016 and 2019 when they voted for a party on a referendum ticket , won the election much to you anglo remainers disgust , then won each and every subsequent vote while remainers bitterly wanted to throw the "constitution "out with the bathwater as they kept getting their arses skelpt in votes?
Bit of reverse psyhcology there darling.
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Post by Montegriffo on Jul 1, 2023 13:33:08 GMT
Passing this off as anti-Brexit victimisation, as Nige is doing, is just as laughable. Monte im not a brexiter. I just find all this disgusting mate.
None of your earlier post makes much sense to me as i said , so im just wondering why farages personal account is somehow excused from these alleged "bribery rules" you pointed out in your post?
The plot thickens.
Likewise, if it was a political move by the establishment why has he still got a personal account. There's more to this than you or I can see at the moment.
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Post by Einhorn on Jul 1, 2023 13:34:51 GMT
...and now , you demand the constitution is upheld. Isnt that what brexiters did between 2016 and 2019 when they voted for a party on a referendum ticket , won the election much to you anglo remainers disgust , then won each and every subsequent vote while remainers bitterly wanted to throw the "constitution "out with the bathwater as they kept getting their arses skelpt in votes?
Yep, the 2019 election was constitutional. Nobody's saying otherwise.
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Post by Einhorn on Jul 1, 2023 13:35:57 GMT
Bit of reverse psyhcology there darling.
If you like.
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Post by thomas on Jul 1, 2023 13:37:12 GMT
Monte im not a brexiter. I just find all this disgusting mate.
None of your earlier post makes much sense to me as i said , so im just wondering why farages personal account is somehow excused from these alleged "bribery rules" you pointed out in your post?
The plot thickens.
Likewise, if it was a political move by the establishment why has he still got a personal account. There's more to this than you or I can see at the moment. i agree. I was just replying to your earlier points which didnt make much sense to me.
Seems to me the folk who want farage and brexit to go away need to stop feeding him red meat. Anglo remainers/establishment forces appear to be martyring farage again , as they martyred brexit in the run up to the 2019 general election , with the predictable outcome.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 1, 2023 13:40:07 GMT
Likewise, if it was a political move by the establishment why has he still got a personal account... Because it would appear that they can't legally remove it. Or at least not without a much higher degree of justification and they do seem rather coy about revealing their reasons.
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