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Post by zanygame on Jul 1, 2023 12:37:19 GMT
Farage supports the traditional libertarian model of contract law that allows one contracting party to exercise a right of termination for any reason he chooses. Under that system, one party can exercise a termination clause if he doesn't like how the other party has expressed himself. The system Farage favours has just bitten him in the arse. Don't get me wrong. I think that the English law of contract should contain a robust duty of good faith, and that the bank should not have been allowed to terminate in the Manfrog's case. At the same time, I'm enjoying the irony that he is whinging about the fact that he has weak consumer rights after campaigning to leave an organisation that has introduced more consumer rights into the UK than any other. That’s fine but this isn’t about the persona Farage and as I said in a post earlier this is about freedom and the the right to speak freely and I’d be as vocal were it a republican a remainer or anyone else. It raises some interesting questions. If Farage's bank should not be allowed to close his account because they don't like his beliefs. Would we all agree that the same thing should be applied to other businesses such as hotels and shops? |
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Post by om15 on Jul 1, 2023 12:38:15 GMT
I have sympathy with your post, I dare say there is much more to this than we are being told, it appears that political persons have to be rigorously examined by the Banks to comply with the regulations under which they can operate, and it may just simply be a case that they don't wish to pay for the extra work and it is simply easier and cheaper to close the account.
In Nigel's case the bank has offered to continue his personal account, but not his business account, this does in no way suggest that Nigels has been involved in anything murky, he may or may not have but the Banks don't feel inclined to fund an investigation into which it is, of course Nigel is using this for political ends, but why not highlight this.
In the case of the Vicar enquiring as to why the Building Society feels it necessary to join in the self indulgent and exhibitionist behaviour of the self advertising gays it is simply a case of the Building Society closing his account for woke purposes and nothing else.
I have checked my ISAs and I don't have any money invested in the Building Society group concerned, if I did it would be out by Monday.
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Post by Montegriffo on Jul 1, 2023 12:40:27 GMT
Much like Nigel hence his attempt to thrust himself into the limelight once again. ...and those who oppose him , and his politics are doing their best to keep him there by pointing at him and laughing at his misfortune , and ill treatment.
I'm not seeing any evidence of ill treatment only Farage claiming victimisation. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2023 12:44:36 GMT
That’s fine but this isn’t about the persona Farage and as I said in a post earlier this is about freedom and the the right to speak freely and I’d be as vocal were it a republican a remainer or anyone else. It raises some interesting questions. If Farage's bank should not be allowed to close his account because they don't like his beliefs. Would we all agree that the same thing should be applied to other businesses such as hotels and shops? What beliefs are you referring to? Unless he has truely done something wrong then what happened isn't too dissimilar to what happened under Communism, where their establishment would deny people and their families food and watch them starve to death over their dissenting views.
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Post by Einhorn on Jul 1, 2023 12:45:24 GMT
You are offering up a false dichotomy , while arguing semantics with yourself mate.
I would imagine most folk favour a system of rules that protect consumers against discrimination. You dont have to be in or out , or support or be against the EU to have it introduced into your country.
I don't see a false dichotomy. Lots of schadenfreude maybe, but that's about it. If someone has to take a bullet to highlight the inadequacies of the freedom of contract Singapore-on-Thames model favoured by Brexiters, I'm over the moon that it's Farage. |
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Post by zanygame on Jul 1, 2023 12:45:55 GMT
Are the banks allowed their opinion as well? Should banks be forced to provide everyone a bank account? Yes - in todays interconnected world surviving without a bank account would be extremely difficult. If you support allowing businesses that supply critical services the right to ban people you could end up with the mobile phone companies banning people - that would cut them off from a range of government services and even prevent them from parking their car. And then what happens when it is people you agree with who get banned? I guess its down to what we consider essential services. Banking, Phones, internet, immediately spring to mind. |
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Post by thomas on Jul 1, 2023 12:46:32 GMT
...and those who oppose him , and his politics are doing their best to keep him there by pointing at him and laughing at his misfortune , and ill treatment.
I'm not seeing any evidence of ill treatment only Farage claiming victimisation. I think any reasonable person would think having your account closed without a valid reason is being ill treated monte. Surely you need to detach your personal view of the man and his politics from the issue at hand?
I asked andrew up the thread , i havent looked online much this morning but is there a valid reason someone can link me to that i may have missed?
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Post by thomas on Jul 1, 2023 12:50:49 GMT
You are offering up a false dichotomy , while arguing semantics with yourself mate.
I would imagine most folk favour a system of rules that protect consumers against discrimination. You dont have to be in or out , or support or be against the EU to have it introduced into your country.
I don't see a false dichotomy. Lots of schadenfreude maybe, but that's about it. If someone has to take a bullet to highlight the inadequacies of the freedom of contract Singapore-on-Thames model favoured by Brexiters, I'm over the moon that it's Farage.I think you are. You are implying to me that only by being a member of the EU could we have these rights , when that isnt the case , and that farage is foolish for campaigning for the uk to leave.
and every brexiter on this forum is cheering you on for empowering farage by laughing at his treatment.
You anglo remainers never learn mate.
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Post by Einhorn on Jul 1, 2023 12:52:13 GMT
You anglo remainers never learn mate.
But we know how to enjoy ourselves, Tommy. |
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Post by thomas on Jul 1, 2023 12:55:57 GMT
You anglo remainers never learn mate.
But we know how to enjoy ourselves, Tommy. i dont see any enjoyment darling , just extreme bitterness you lost a referendum , and then lost various post referendum elections and attempts to stitch brexit up.
Laughing at farages ill treatment highlights that extreme bitterness.
Whoever issued the demand to close his account has just put farage back on top of the pedestal , while bitter anglo remainers laughs are further entrenching brexiters views.
Just my opinion darling.
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Post by Einhorn on Jul 1, 2023 12:57:43 GMT
But we know how to enjoy ourselves, Tommy. i dont see any enjoyment darling , just extreme bitterness you lost a referendum , and then lost various post referendum elections and attempts to stitch brexit up.
Laughing at farages ill treatment highlights that extreme bitterness.
Whoever issued the demand to close his account has just put farage back on top of the pedestal , while bitter anglo remainers laughs are further entrenching brexiters views.
Just my opinion darling.
It works for me, Tommy. Your experience may vary. |
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Post by thomas on Jul 1, 2023 12:58:50 GMT
i dont see any enjoyment darling , just extreme bitterness you lost a referendum , and then lost various post referendum elections and attempts to stitch brexit up.
Laughing at farages ill treatment highlights that extreme bitterness.
Whoever issued the demand to close his account has just put farage back on top of the pedestal , while bitter anglo remainers laughs are further entrenching brexiters views.
Just my opinion darling.
It works for me, Tommy. Your experience may vary. it never seems to work at election time though does it darling , you know when it matters.? |
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Post by Einhorn on Jul 1, 2023 12:59:52 GMT
It works for me, Tommy. Your experience may vary. it never seems to work at election time though does it darling , you know when it matters.? We share that sadness, Tommy. Luckily, there are more elections to come. |
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Post by thomas on Jul 1, 2023 13:00:43 GMT
Anyhow , stuart campbell , the scottish indy blogger who runs the wings over scotland site , who like farage had his first direct bank account closed for his political views, is offering up an explanation as to why that has happened.
For those who may not know, campbell is an extreme critic of the transgender cult , and has posted this on twitter today........
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 1, 2023 13:04:46 GMT
But we know how to enjoy ourselves, Tommy. i dont see any enjoyment darling , just extreme bitterness you lost a referendum , and then lost various post referendum elections and attempts to stitch brexit up.
Laughing at farages ill treatment highlights that extreme bitterness.
Whoever issued the demand to close his account has just put farage back on top of the pedestal , while bitter anglo remainers laughs are further entrenching brexiters views.
Just my opinion darling.
It may be your opinion but it's correct.
Farage worked in the financial sector, this won't be much hardship for him since he'll almost certainly have alternative arrangements.
But he will milk this for every drop of publicity - and rightly so: This is the establishment working to bankrupt dissenters and anyone who can't see the danger in that really needs to learn some history.
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