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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2022 16:30:15 GMT
Burning fossil fuels produces Carbon Dioxide.
Cutting rain forests down reduces the amount of Oxygen that is produced.
Carbon Dioxide is a greenhouse gas.
Greenhouse gases trap heat. Low Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere allows the heat to escape the surface of the planet at night-time. That's why ig gets cold of a night.
Green houses are used to heat up the 'atmosphere' in a glass shed.
Take a trip to Venus to see the effects of global warming.
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Post by sandypine on Oct 28, 2022 17:43:23 GMT
Burning fossil fuels produces Carbon Dioxide. Cutting rain forests down reduces the amount of Oxygen that is produced. Carbon Dioxide is a greenhouse gas. Greenhouse gases trap heat. Low Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere allows the heat to escape the surface of the planet at night-time. That's why ig gets cold of a night. Green houses are used to heat up the 'atmosphere' in a glass shed. Take a trip to Venus to see the effects of global warming. Yes. I am not cutting down rainforests nor do I have any control over those who are. The question still stands, to what extent? Some think the effect of humans is negligible. 'The Science' is by no means definitive and realistically has many unanswered questions and unproven theories. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Oct 29, 2022 7:38:11 GMT
A Yank who is attending the Conference thinks the King should attend, the King has already decided he will not attend he too has a lot of things to sort out at home. In this day and age why cannot it be conducted via Video save lots of air miles time and money The word is that Charlie is "champing at the bit" to go to COP27 and that, if he doesn't go, he'll try to contribute by Zoom. He just doesn't get it. I predicted this would happen - he just doesn't understand that he can't get involved in politics. And let's be clear COP27 is political. All these heads of state are not going to engage in scientific debate - they're not qualified to do that. They're there to agree how much they're going to reduce their CO2 emissions - and that's political. For example, we hear that the Mini Electric car production is moving to China because energy prices are too high in the UK. The reason that energy prices are high in the UK is because we've closed down a lot of our fossil fuel power stations to meet carbon targets. And the reason that energy is cheap in China is because they're still building coal-fired power station. That's their political decision - and Charles can NOT become involved in this. Also the determination that CO2 is "the primary driver of global warming" is political. There is no evidence that CO2 causes warming in the Earth's system and it's NOT true that the scientists are 95% (or whatever) in agreement on this. Even the IPCC has admitted that, if we totally eliminated CO2 emissions immediately, it would centuries before it had any effect on Earth's temperatures. BTW I've read some of Charles's ideas on warming. Ladybird published a book on climate change a few years ago (in their "Expert" series - not the jokey stuff). It was dire. If you remember Charles visited the flooded village of Muchelney a few years ago and expounded about it being the result of CO2, blah blah. The village was completely cut off because it was surrounded by water so he had to get there by boat.  Yet the name Muchelney is old English for "Big Island" - It's been flooding for centuries. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Oct 29, 2022 7:46:54 GMT
Carbon Dioxide is a greenhouse gas. Greenhouse gases trap heat. Low Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere allows the heat to escape the surface of the planet at night-time. That's why ig gets cold of a night. Bollocks. It gets cold at night because the Sun is on the other side of the globe. Duh. The Sun is by far the most important factor in how warm the Earth is. In fact the concentration of CO2 is higher in winter than summer - but it's much colder in winter because the Sun is at a different angle. Also you might reflect on the fact that water vapour is a far more powerful greenhouse gas - and present in the Earth's atmosphere in vastly greater concentrations - yet is never involved in global warming discussions. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 29, 2022 9:30:38 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63418876My immediate thought (and I suspect that of a lot of other people), was nice one Rishi. But you never know. There must be some folk who take this global warming/cooling/weather bollocks seriously How about you guys? I agree, I was also pleased when Sunak said he was too busy to attend this climate summit, he is right not to go. As he said, he's busy with domestic matters. On the other hand, I had to laugh when 'we Jimmy' Sturgeon announced that she would be attending COP27, which must have come as a huge relief to the organisers of the summit. |
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Post by Handyman on Oct 29, 2022 10:29:58 GMT
A Yank who is attending the Conference thinks the King should attend, the King has already decided he will not attend he too has a lot of things to sort out at home. In this day and age why cannot it be conducted via Video save lots of air miles time and money The word is that Charlie is "champing at the bit" to go to COP27 and that, if he doesn't go, he'll try to contribute by Zoom. He just doesn't get it. I predicted this would happen - he just doesn't understand that he can't get involved in politics. And let's be clear COP27 is political. All these heads of state are not going to engage in scientific debate - they're not qualified to do that. They're there to agree how much they're going to reduce their CO2 emissions - and that's political. For example, we hear that the Mini Electric car production is moving to China because energy prices are too high in the UK. The reason that energy prices are high in the UK is because we've closed down a lot of our fossil fuel power stations to meet carbon targets. And the reason that energy is cheap in China is because they're still building coal-fired power station. That's their political decision - and Charles can NOT become involved in this. Also the determination that CO2 is "the primary driver of global warming" is political. There is no evidence that CO2 causes warming in the Earth's system and it's NOT true that the scientists are 95% (or whatever) in agreement on this. Even the IPCC has admitted that, if we totally eliminated CO2 emissions immediately, it would centuries before it had any effect on Earth's temperatures. BTW I've read some of Charles's ideas on warming. Ladybird published a book on climate change a few years ago (in their "Expert" series - not the jokey stuff). It was dire. If you remember Charles visited the flooded village of Muchelney a few years ago and expounded about it being the result of CO2, blah blah. The village was completely cut off because it was surrounded by water so he had to get there by boat. Yet the name Muchelney is old English for "Big Island" - It's been flooding for centuries. Yes Charles is wearing a different hat now he is King, he can no longer voice his opinions or as he could when he was the Prince of Wales |
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Post by colbops on Oct 29, 2022 10:31:58 GMT
The word is that Charlie is "champing at the bit" to go to COP27 and that, if he doesn't go, he'll try to contribute by Zoom. He just doesn't get it. I predicted this would happen - he just doesn't understand that he can't get involved in politics. And let's be clear COP27 is political. All these heads of state are not going to engage in scientific debate - they're not qualified to do that. They're there to agree how much they're going to reduce their CO2 emissions - and that's political. For example, we hear that the Mini Electric car production is moving to China because energy prices are too high in the UK. The reason that energy prices are high in the UK is because we've closed down a lot of our fossil fuel power stations to meet carbon targets. And the reason that energy is cheap in China is because they're still building coal-fired power station. That's their political decision - and Charles can NOT become involved in this. Also the determination that CO2 is "the primary driver of global warming" is political. There is no evidence that CO2 causes warming in the Earth's system and it's NOT true that the scientists are 95% (or whatever) in agreement on this. Even the IPCC has admitted that, if we totally eliminated CO2 emissions immediately, it would centuries before it had any effect on Earth's temperatures. BTW I've read some of Charles's ideas on warming. Ladybird published a book on climate change a few years ago (in their "Expert" series - not the jokey stuff). It was dire. If you remember Charles visited the flooded village of Muchelney a few years ago and expounded about it being the result of CO2, blah blah. The village was completely cut off because it was surrounded by water so he had to get there by boat. Yet the name Muchelney is old English for "Big Island" - It's been flooding for centuries. Yes Charles is wearing a different hat now he is King, he can no longer voice his opinions or as he could when he was the Prince of Wales Of course he can, he can do what he wants |
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Post by Handyman on Oct 29, 2022 11:26:59 GMT
He can go where he wants when he wants who can stop him, nobody, but no Monarch since the Restoration of the Monarch has ever made their political opinion known in public or interfered in how Parliament works, that was the deal made way back when Charles 11 was put back on the throne.
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Post by colbops on Oct 29, 2022 12:22:57 GMT
He can go where he wants when he wants who can stop him, nobody, but no Monarch since the Restoration of the Monarch has ever made their political opinion known in public or interfered in how Parliament works, that was the deal made way back when Charles 11 was put back on the throne. He can try, 'they' can try. Yes 'they' have, the monarch is part of parliament, no it wasn't. |
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Post by Handyman on Oct 29, 2022 12:41:25 GMT
It is Parliament that is " Sovereign " and has all the power, the reigning Monarch of the day is " Sovereign " in name only and has little or no power, if any Monarch did try and interfere in the workings of Parliament and refused to rubber stamp Parliments legislation laws etc it could bring about a constitutional crisis which would not end well for the Monarchy
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2022 13:48:07 GMT
Burning fossil fuels produces Carbon Dioxide. Cutting rain forests down reduces the amount of Oxygen that is produced. Carbon Dioxide is a greenhouse gas. Greenhouse gases trap heat. Low Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere allows the heat to escape the surface of the planet at night-time. That's why ig gets cold of a night. Green houses are used to heat up the 'atmosphere' in a glass shed. Take a trip to Venus to see the effects of global warming. Yes. I am not cutting down rainforests nor do I have any control over those who are. The question still stands, to what extent? Some think the effect of humans is negligible. 'The Science' is by no means definitive and realistically has many unanswered questions and unproven theories. I didn't say you were. Most experts agree that we are losing upwards of 80,000 acres of tropical rainforest daily, and significantly degrading another 80,000 acres every day on top of that. Along with this loss and degradation, we are losing some 135 plant, animal and insect species every day—or some 50,000 species a year—as the forests fall. Thats about the size of 60 football fields per day. Every tree cut down traps no CO2 and produces no O2. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2022 13:54:46 GMT
Carbon Dioxide is a greenhouse gas. Greenhouse gases trap heat. Low Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere allows the heat to escape the surface of the planet at night-time. That's why ig gets cold of a night. Bollocks. It gets cold at night because the Sun is on the other side of the globe. Duh. The Sun is by far the most important factor in how warm the Earth is. In fact the concentration of CO2 is higher in winter than summer - but it's much colder in winter because the Sun is at a different angle. Also you might reflect on the fact that water vapour is a far more powerful greenhouse gas - and present in the Earth's atmosphere in vastly greater concentrations - yet is never involved in global warming discussions. Of course, it does well done. With more CO2 in the atmosphere the heat from the days sun will be trapped and not able to rise and be released, you do know heat rises don't you. Then when the Sun comes back up next morning it will beat down onto an already warm surface, and this will repeat every day, hence global warming. Before you say it, the sun does not actually rise and set. |
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Post by colbops on Oct 29, 2022 14:55:03 GMT
Carbon Dioxide is a greenhouse gas. Greenhouse gases trap heat. Low Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere allows the heat to escape the surface of the planet at night-time. That's why ig gets cold of a night. Also you might reflect on the fact that water vapour is a far more powerful greenhouse gas - and present in the Earth's atmosphere in vastly greater concentrations - yet is never involved in global warming discussions. The reason is relatively straightforward. The amount of water vapour in the air is a consequence of warming rather than a driver of it |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2022 15:14:52 GMT
Also you might reflect on the fact that water vapour is a far more powerful greenhouse gas - and present in the Earth's atmosphere in vastly greater concentrations - yet is never involved in global warming discussions. The reason is relatively straightforward. The amount of water vapour in the air is a consequence of warming rather than a driver of it Wonder why that is, oh yes water vapour forms clouds and then rains cool refreshing water on the planet. You do know water vapour contains oxygen. Water vapour is a necessary ingredient for the sustainability of the planets. Water vapour has been in our atmosphere for millions of years and whilst it is a greenhouse gas; it is not caused by man. CO2 is released by man and increases the greenhouse effect on the planet. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 29, 2022 15:35:32 GMT
Knocking down millions of trees that absorb water and filter the atmosphere is one of the main reasons for global warming.
yet again they wont highlight this because trees are big business, furniture, tree houses, work tops, you name it trees provide it.
not to mention greedy housing developers raping greenbelt land to build houses for maximum profit.
If they are really serious about climate change they need to put protective orders on forests and greenbelt land, if they don't it's hot air, and a means to raise revenue in green taxes ..... in other words a money making racket.
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Yet the name Muchelney is old English for "Big Island" - It's been flooding for centuries.
