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Post by bancroft on Jun 24, 2023 15:43:29 GMT
Ireland did get huge bank bail outs in 2011 from UK, IMF and EU. This bbc article says UK and IMF repaid by 2017 yet much larger EU fund remains outstanding, article is dated 2021 with no updates www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56539764didnt the imf bail out the uk as well once upon a time? Sorry bancroft , im still not really getting the point behind your post.
The western world largely had to be bailed out with the exception from memory of wee iceland who let their banks fails and jailed corrupt bankers.
If independence is that bad for all these countires , and they cant manage thier economies as you imply , why arent they begging to become part of the uk ?
Isnt the uks current debt at levels not seen in more than half a century? Isnt the uk econommy predictd to be the worst in the developed world , lagging way behind wee irelands economy in terms of growth?
Considering the current state of the uk economy , i wouldnt be trying to dredge up dirt on other nations in economic terms. The uk ......Greece without the sunlight and decent food. We were recently in trouble 1946 and 1976, WWII and Oil crisis. Currently with no democratic mandate we have put £30bn into Ukraine and pay £3bn annually to house illegals in hotels. Neither Starmer or Sunak have any plans to change this. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 24, 2023 16:08:10 GMT
Apologies for pointing out your error Tam, but unless Ireland have left the EU, they do not make their own decisions. As a member state of the EU they are governed from Brussels. The irish have more self governing power within the EU , including the ability to leave it , than we do in the uk , where we are told we are not allowed to democratically leave.
apologies red for pointing this out , but i would take that what the irish have any day of the week mate. Tam, you're delving into the realms of fantasy. Ireland do as they're told, they accept laws and diktats issued by the EU because they have absolutely no choice, and unless they can suddenly find €239 billion they cant leave the EU, whether they wanted to or not. Ireland are the EU's bitches, just like Portugal, Italy, Greece and Spain. |
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Post by thomas on Jun 24, 2023 18:07:11 GMT
The irish have more self governing power within the EU , including the ability to leave it , than we do in the uk , where we are told we are not allowed to democratically leave.
apologies red for pointing this out , but i would take that what the irish have any day of the week mate. Tam, you're delving into the realms of fantasy. Ireland do as they're told, they accept laws and diktats issued by the EU because they have absolutely no choice, and unless they can suddenly find €239 billion they cant leave the EU, whether they wanted to or not. Ireland are the EU's bitches, just like Portugal, Italy, Greece and Spain. red , im not mate. Its you who are through the looking glass.
You might not like or agree with the EU , and while i dont agree with you its a fair position to hold. trying to imply that ireland is chained undemocratically and cant do what they please simply because they have joined a club , which they are free to leave , and need to abide by the clubs rules is for the birds.
Meanwhile , we scots are being told we cant leave the uk , are held in prsion , and our parliament cant make laws of its own choosing. Like i said mate , you are through the looking glass.
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Post by thomas on Jun 24, 2023 18:08:45 GMT
didnt the imf bail out the uk as well once upon a time? Sorry bancroft , im still not really getting the point behind your post.
The western world largely had to be bailed out with the exception from memory of wee iceland who let their banks fails and jailed corrupt bankers.
If independence is that bad for all these countires , and they cant manage thier economies as you imply , why arent they begging to become part of the uk ?
Isnt the uks current debt at levels not seen in more than half a century? Isnt the uk econommy predictd to be the worst in the developed world , lagging way behind wee irelands economy in terms of growth?
Considering the current state of the uk economy , i wouldnt be trying to dredge up dirt on other nations in economic terms. The uk ......Greece without the sunlight and decent food. We were recently in trouble 1946 and 1976, WWII and Oil crisis. Currently with no democratic mandate we have put £30bn into Ukraine and pay £3bn annually to house illegals in hotels. Neither Starmer or Sunak have any plans to change this. 30 billion to ukraine? Is it that high ? jesus bancroft , i never knew that. what a fucking mess .old folk scared to put their heating on last winter , families on the brink with mortgage worries , and we are handing out money like confetti . |
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Post by bancroft on Jun 24, 2023 18:12:17 GMT
We were recently in trouble 1946 and 1976, WWII and Oil crisis. Currently with no democratic mandate we have put £30bn into Ukraine and pay £3bn annually to house illegals in hotels. Neither Starmer or Sunak have any plans to change this. 30 billion to ukraine? Is it that high ? jesus bancroft , i never knew that. what a fucking mess .old folk scared to put their heating on last winter , families on the brink with mortgage worries , and we are handing out money like confetti . I can't make it out is it MPs trying to be important on the global stage, currying favour with the US or is just about ethics and morality even taking into account what happened in Ukraine in 2014? |
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Post by thomas on Jun 24, 2023 18:24:12 GMT
30 billion to ukraine? Is it that high ? jesus bancroft , i never knew that. what a fucking mess .old folk scared to put their heating on last winter , families on the brink with mortgage worries , and we are handing out money like confetti . I can't make it out is it MPs trying to be important on the global stage, currying favour with the US or is just about ethics and morality even taking into account what happened in Ukraine in 2014? could be delusions of grandeur by westminster. Or simply servants doing what their masters in washington tell them. no idea mate. Rome burns while the senators party on , and gullible lickspittles cheer them on .
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Post by Vinny on Jun 25, 2023 18:13:37 GMT
No point trying to reason with SNATs, they'd gas English people if they could get away with it.
National Socialism needs banning.
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Post by thomas on Jun 26, 2023 6:41:30 GMT
No point trying to reason with SNATs, they'd gas English people if they could get away with it. National Socialism needs banning. I can see why you have most of the forum on ignore vinny , and never reply to posts by quoting those you dont. You arent interested in deabte. Merely using forums as platforms to wildly and incoherently scream about your deluded fantasies at every turn. |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 26, 2023 7:16:00 GMT
No point in trying to reason with SNATs or WNATs.
They'd gas English people if they could get away with it.
Vile Nazi ideologies. They need banning.
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Post by thomas on Jun 26, 2023 7:37:10 GMT
No point in trying to reason with SNATs or WNATs. They'd gas English people if they could get away with it. Vile Nazi ideologies. They need banning. mr bollocks talks bollocks. I thought you had me on ignore?
Do you ever think how you come across to other people screaming the nonsense you come out with at times?
when you cant debate people , its no wonder you want those you dont agree with banned while screaming about nazis.
wipe the spittle off your chin vinny and calm down.
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Post by Vinny on Jun 26, 2023 8:16:19 GMT
National Action was banned. We should do the same to SNAT and WNAT Nazis.
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Post by borchester on Jul 1, 2023 12:05:46 GMT
The bigots in the council will just claim they're treated badly by the nasties. However, it's good to point out the benefits of the UK. It should help expose the fact that the paid up minority-nationalist in the council is trying to profit politically on hate and bigotry.
Also, as we can see, it's just an opportunity for Thomas to spam SNP propaganda.
the benefits of the uk ?
the top ten poorest areas of europe are all in england and wales.
The Welsh like being poor, which is why the place is run by the Labour party.
And I can't manage this boards outrage over not much of sod all, although I do like the idea that inner London is the richest part of London. So I am going to take a cab to Hampstead Heath, sit outside Kenwood, drink coffee and smell the money.
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Post by thomas on Jul 1, 2023 12:33:13 GMT
the benefits of the uk ?
the top ten poorest areas of europe are all in england and wales.
The Welsh like being poor, which is why the place is run by the Labour party.
Its like the chicken and egg scenario borkie , what came first poverty or the labour party?
In my estimation , its usually the labour party who get in and run the place down.
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Post by om15 on Jul 2, 2023 13:41:11 GMT
I really can't see how Cornwall, with it's millionaire housing and marinas can be classified as the second poorest place in Northern Europe. The authors of this tripe obviously have never visited Le Bourget, all of Spain or the suburbs of Kilmarnock. I have and think this nonsense and typical of the socialist bilge that insults our intelligence on a daily basis. If this was a piece of paper I would wipe my bottom with it.
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Post by thomas on Jul 2, 2023 15:50:43 GMT
I really can't see how Cornwall, with it's millionaire housing and marinas can be classified as the second poorest place in Northern Europe. The authors of this tripe obviously have never visited Le Bourget, all of Spain or the suburbs of Kilmarnock. I have and think this nonsense and typical of the socialist bilge that insults our intelligence on a daily basis. If this was a piece of paper I would wipe my bottom with it. om yet again , its all some big socialist plot to undermine the fantasy you seem to believe . Dont shoot the messenger mate.
The study comes as Cornwall is one of the most disadvantaged regions of the UK with high rates of poverty, inequality and insecure work. It has also been hit hard by the Covid pandemic, with the lockdown exposing the county’s over reliance on the visitor economy. As a result, many Cornish towns experienced a dramatic drop in consumer spending, with Cornwall achieving a slower recovery from the pandemic compared to other regions of the UK.
According to official government figures, 17 of Cornwall’s districts rank among the UK’s 10% most deprived in the country and one in 10 Cornish residents is worried about not having enough food to eat
its all easily googled research from varying different sources across recent years that all more or less jump to the same conclusion .
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