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Post by Handyman on Jun 19, 2023 7:32:24 GMT
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Post by wapentake on Jun 19, 2023 10:16:29 GMT
You know what will happen if they do and who’ll take the flak and it won’t be politicians. |
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Post by Handyman on Jun 19, 2023 10:20:48 GMT
You know what will happen if they do and who’ll take the flak and it won’t be politicians. Indeed , they will be more and more complaints allegations of Racism by some in the black community here in London |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 19, 2023 11:11:50 GMT
Yep, but the choice is stark: More stop and search or more dead black kids.
And it's about time that the powers-that-be owned up to that.
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Post by Handyman on Jun 19, 2023 11:45:54 GMT
Yep, but the choice is stark: More stop and search or more dead black kids. And it's about time that the powers-that-be owned up to that. I agree 100% some people in the black community want the Police to take more weapons off the street as more often than not black or Asian Kids that are being murdered , by young black or Asian kids fighting over drugs , girls or a silly remark on social media |
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Post by bancroft on Jun 19, 2023 13:08:32 GMT
It is never going to get solved though they will make arrests.
Problem is young kids living in flats where young criminals live either you get a knife or you lose all your posessions.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2023 16:35:44 GMT
I suppose we are overdue another Broadwater Farm. Policing does seem a bit dull and ineffective lately.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 19, 2023 17:47:30 GMT
Well said Suella, in some areas the police should use stop and search more, a lot more. However, the Home Sec telling the police to do something is one thing, the police doing as she asks is another matter entirely. These days left wing Chief Constables seem to be a law unto themselves.  |
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Post by ginnyg on Jun 20, 2023 7:20:32 GMT
Yep, but the choice is stark: More stop and search or more dead black kids. And it's about time that the powers-that-be owned up to that. Of course. They could have a slogan, something like: "We must ramp up stop and search and provide a future for black children". No - hang on a minute, that's 14 words. Can't have that! |
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Post by Orac on Jun 20, 2023 10:14:02 GMT
It is never going to get solved though they will make arrests. Problem is young kids living in flats where young criminals live either you get a knife or you lose all your posessions. The predictable result of focusing on controlling things like knives rather than coming down like a ton of bricks on criminals. It's simpler for the authorities to classify anyone able to defend themselves as a criminal than it is to tackle criminality properly - so that's what they do |
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Post by bancroft on Jun 20, 2023 11:09:42 GMT
It is never going to get solved though they will make arrests. Problem is young kids living in flats where young criminals live either you get a knife or you lose all your posessions. The predictable result of focusing on controlling things like knives rather than coming down like a ton of bricks on criminals. It's simpler for the authorities to classify anyone able to defend themselves as a criminal than it is to tackle criminality properly - so that's what they do I guess what I said might be the reason why some kids get murdered that hold their own on the tower block yet once on the road if the gang see them they are toast. Better housing might help separate the good 'uns from the criminals yet to do this will be very expensive re housing changes so the political will is not there. |
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Post by Orac on Jun 20, 2023 11:15:44 GMT
The predictable result of focusing on controlling things like knives rather than coming down like a ton of bricks on criminals. It's simpler for the authorities to classify anyone able to defend themselves as a criminal than it is to tackle criminality properly - so that's what they do I guess what I said might be the reason why some kids get murdered that hold their own on the tower block yet once on the road if the gang see them they are toast. Better housing might help separate the good 'uns from the criminals yet to do this will be very expensive re housing changes so the political will is not there. You just needs proper law enforcement. If you have to bring weapons, to take down these groups, do it. Nobody ever created law and order by being nice to all the 'stakeholders' People who can't live amoung normal people need to be in prison / care facilities |
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Post by bancroft on Jun 20, 2023 11:19:42 GMT
The police were invented to protect the rich not as agents of social change. To get proper law enforcement you would need several officers in each tower block doing checks, never going to happen.
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Post by Orac on Jun 20, 2023 11:25:27 GMT
The police were invented to protect the rich not as agents of social change. To get proper law enforcement you would need several officers in each tower block doing checks, never going to happen. You have a good point but I would say the beneficial effects are cumulative. You only have to make a few examples of the iron fist of justice smashing the living tits out of these people for it to leave a mark on the community. You are correct - it couldn't happen presently. It is going to have a get a lot worse. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2023 11:41:02 GMT
They're only good for shooting doggies and raping people. I wouldn't call them even if I was being robbed. What this country needs are personal liberties so we can buy big guns to protect us from rogue police officers.
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