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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 20, 2023 11:47:18 GMT
The problem is skin colour, or more to the point, the fact that we're not allowed to mention skin colour. Therefore the problem of black youths stabbing one other on an industrial scale is almost overlooked. It's racist to mention the staggeringly obvious in case some outraged lefty becomes offended. The problem of black gangs and knife culture will not be addressed until it's openly accepted a problem exists.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2023 16:26:29 GMT
They're only good for shooting doggies and raping people. I wouldn't call them even if I was being robbed. What this country needs are personal liberties so we can buy big guns to protect us from rogue police officers. It hasn't got that bad, quite yet. I don't really like guns, myself. I don't want to own one unless absolutely essential.
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Post by bancroft on Jun 20, 2023 19:00:34 GMT
The police were invented to protect the rich not as agents of social change. To get proper law enforcement you would need several officers in each tower block doing checks, never going to happen. You have a good point but I would say the beneficial effects are cumulative. You only have to make a few examples of the iron fist of justice smashing the living tits out of these people for it to leave a mark on the community.
You are correct - it couldn't happen presently. It is going to have a get a lot worse. Can't see that happening Brixton and Toxteth riots would likely happen all over again.
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Post by Orac on Jun 20, 2023 20:36:26 GMT
You have a good point but I would say the beneficial effects are cumulative. You only have to make a few examples of the iron fist of justice smashing the living tits out of these people for it to leave a mark on the community.
You are correct - it couldn't happen presently. It is going to have a get a lot worse. Can't see that happening Brixton and Toxteth riots would likely happen all over again. Sure - and then you top the force. I' m suggesting you don't give in.
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Post by Dan Dare on Jun 20, 2023 21:01:16 GMT
Perhaps there's a case for the police to disengage in places like Brixton and Toxteth and to redouble their efforts in places which are not the natural habitat for knife-wielding black youths.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 20, 2023 22:53:08 GMT
Perhaps there's a case for the police to disengage in places like Brixton and Toxteth and to redouble their efforts in places which are not the natural habitat for knife-wielding black youths. Good idea, was it Seattle in the US where citizens decided to ban the police in favour of policing neighbourhoods themselves, neighbourhoods which inevitably became utterly lawless. I quite agree, people who refuse to abide by the law should be left to their own devices in their own ghettoes. Sadly we're too bloody soft in this country.
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Post by bancroft on Jun 21, 2023 10:38:21 GMT
Perhaps there's a case for the police to disengage in places like Brixton and Toxteth and to redouble their efforts in places which are not the natural habitat for knife-wielding black youths. I actually think that happens to an extent now though periodically hampered by actors on the Left screaming racism. In our parts certain young blacks get the bus into a nicer area, 4 or 5 will corner a white school kid (possibly Asian too) and produce a knife to get their Smart phone. If they have the numbers they will also run through the shopping area. Security guards often call the police as two cannot realistically take on 20 youths. It is not daily perhaps once a fortnight so it is difficult to know when to police and you can bet the police have budgets.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2023 14:32:45 GMT
The problem is skin colour, or more to the point, the fact that we're not allowed to mention skin colour. Therefore the problem of black youths stabbing one other on an industrial scale is almost overlooked. It's racist to mention the staggeringly obvious in case some outraged lefty becomes offended. The problem of black gangs and knife culture will not be addressed until it's openly accepted a problem exists. Of course we are all allowed to mention skin colour.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 24, 2023 15:02:32 GMT
The problem is skin colour, or more to the point, the fact that we're not allowed to mention skin colour. Therefore the problem of black youths stabbing one other on an industrial scale is almost overlooked. It's racist to mention the staggeringly obvious in case some outraged lefty becomes offended. The problem of black gangs and knife culture will not be addressed until it's openly accepted a problem exists. Of course we are all allowed to mention skin colour. Redders, black and minority ethnic people may only be mentioned in news reports, particularly BBC news reports, if it's a good news story.
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Post by johnofgwent on Jun 27, 2023 7:51:33 GMT
The police were invented to protect the rich not as agents of social change. Yes they were, but they're singularly not giving a shit about that are they
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Post by johnofgwent on Jun 27, 2023 7:53:27 GMT
Perhaps there's a case for the police to disengage in places like Brixton and Toxteth and to redouble their efforts in places which are not the natural habitat for knife-wielding black youths. Perhaps there's a case for the police to hire blacks only in such areas and leave them to fight it out amongst themselves. Oh hang on, are they not doing just that ??
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Post by Orac on Jun 27, 2023 8:02:40 GMT
lost jurisdiction / territory. Parts of London essentially run by African street gangs. Why not? It works in Africa.
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Post by sandypine on Jun 27, 2023 8:11:04 GMT
lost jurisdiction / territory. Parts of London essentially run by African street gangs. Why not? It works in Africa. It is Multiculturalism in action. How one organises law and order is an aspect of culture, if different cultures do it differently, and there is little doubt they do, then that is what one gets. The whole thing is a sorry mess.
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