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Post by buccaneer on Jun 17, 2023 10:24:38 GMT
So, no explicit gory detail, just a symbol to religion. The gory detail is the dead man nailed to a instrument of torture. In your sensationalist opinion. But let's remember what you asked in the title of this thread: Should children be taught about the crucifixion? You've moved away from the 'teaching of the crucifixion' to wanting crosses removed from schools. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 17, 2023 10:24:38 GMT
So, no explicit gory detail, just a symbol to religion. The gory detail is the dead man nailed to a instrument of torture. A god who didn’t die . |
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 17, 2023 10:25:04 GMT
Yes. It's central to the Christian myth. Nobody is disputing that. But it's a bloody chapter of the Christian myth, one that tells of torture and an agonised death. Should children be exposed to that? Yes, they should but not in ‘ Passion of the Christ ‘ way. Christ was a god who willingly died for the kiddies . We were told how he died but the suffering but wasn’t dwelled upon. You protest too much, methinks. So, no mention of a crown of thorns, then? No mention of a spear piercing his side? No mention of vinegar on a sponge? No mention of nails? That sounds a bit ouchy. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 17, 2023 10:25:55 GMT
The gory detail is the dead man nailed to a instrument of torture. In your sensationalist opinion. Okay. If it's sensationalist, then so are claims by the Christian Right when it comes to some so-called woke activities. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 17, 2023 10:28:48 GMT
Yes, they should but not in ‘ Passion of the Christ ‘ way. Christ was a god who willingly died for the kiddies . We were told how he died but the suffering but wasn’t dwelled upon. You protest too much, methinks. So, no mention of a crown of thorns, then? No mention of a spear piercing his side? No mention of vinegar on a sponge? No mention of nails? That sounds a bit ouchy. We all knew that Christ was a willing participant and would survive it . The vicar told us . |
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 17, 2023 10:29:06 GMT
In your sensationalist opinion. Okay. If it's sensationalist, then so are claims by the Christian Right when it comes to some so-called woke activities. Stay on topic. If you want to discuss woke activities start another thread. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 17, 2023 10:31:05 GMT
Okay. If it's sensationalist, then so are claims by the Christian Right when it comes to some so-called woke activities. Stay on topic. If you want to discuss woke activities start another thread. The Christian Right are also being sensationalist (if what you said earlier is correct). |
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 17, 2023 10:32:31 GMT
So, no mention of a crown of thorns, then? No mention of a spear piercing his side? No mention of vinegar on a sponge? No mention of nails? That sounds a bit ouchy. We all knew that Christ was a willing participant and would survive it . The vicar told us . Surviving it doesn't detract from the fact that he died. He was tortured to death. Do you think that is a suitable tale for children? |
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Post by besoeker3 on Jun 17, 2023 10:38:59 GMT
What? Most Christian schools have crucifixes hanging on their walls. They show an image of a dead or dying man nailed to a cross. I can't believe you don't know that. So, no explicit gory detail, just a symbol to religion. Or just a myth. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Jun 17, 2023 10:55:49 GMT
We all knew that Christ was a willing participant and would survive it . The vicar told us . Surviving it doesn't detract from the fact that he died. He was tortured to death. Do you think that is a suitable tale for children? The story of the Crucifixion and the Resurrection is a fundamental part of Christian doctrine. If you don't want children to be told about the former then Easter is reduced to a commercial and ecumenical opportunity just as Christmas has become.
In the telling of them to children, of any age, there is no need to dwell upon the gory detail.
Are there other aspects of Christian doctrine you object to?
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 17, 2023 10:57:13 GMT
So, no explicit gory detail, just a symbol to religion. Or just a myth. Or that to. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jun 17, 2023 11:12:29 GMT
I went to 3 different Catholic Schools as a child. My secondary school had over a thousand pupils. I've never met one who was disturbed by a crucifix. I think this is just the lefty woke numbnuts getting all in a tither over nothing.
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 17, 2023 11:14:53 GMT
I went to 3 different Catholic Schools as a child. My secondary school had over a thousand pupils. I've never met one who was disturbed by a crucifix. I think this is just the lefty woke numbnuts getting all in a tither over nothing. Is that what you are accusing Darling of being? |
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Post by thescotsman on Jun 17, 2023 11:21:20 GMT
It's a horrible story of torture and execution. Should young children be taught it in school? ....maybe people should be taught to read...I mean actually read...and comprehend what they are reading....rather than just skimming texts to pass an exam.
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Post by thescotsman on Jun 17, 2023 11:26:11 GMT
Yes, as part of R.E. lessons. Without the crucifixion and resurrection there is no eternal life. Whether R.E. could be optional in schools would be an interesting question. Can't they be told about that when they are older? Christ was literally tortured to death. Does a child need to know that?well....videos of Russian and Ukrainian soldiers being shot in the head....blown up by drones are readily available on Youtube....young people are being radicalised into beheading people....the Bible can't compete with that |
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