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Post by buccaneer on Jun 17, 2023 9:24:00 GMT
Yes, but that detail probably isn't told to children at school . I'd be more concerned having gender-odd folk reading their preferred choice of children's material to small children and warping their mind; rather than them being told Jesus was crucified - put on a cross and left to die. The detail is 'told to children at school'. They learn that Jesus was nailed to the cross, etc. I see you've tried to change the subject. This thread is about 'warping children's minds' with horrific stories, and exposing them to crucifixes and other images of a man with a large wound in his side nailed to a cross. If you are concerned about another matter, start your own thread. No. I am saying I would rather children be told Jesus was crucified giving no more detail than that, other than he was stuck to a cross; in comparison to having a confused human come into their school reading them a confusing book in the hope it confuses the children about who, or what they are.
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 17, 2023 9:27:14 GMT
They are teaching children that when they are dropped off at school in the morning by their 'dad' Andy, that in the afternoon there's a possibility he could return to pick them up as her calling him/herself Anna, they expect kids to get their heads round that. Yes. Is that worse than exposing children to images of horrific cruelty? It's notable that the Christian Right who complain about the affect these things have on children are happy to expose those same children to horrific images. Do you have any links to these images showing horrific cruelty that is used in schools?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2023 9:29:42 GMT
They are teaching children that when they are dropped off at school in the morning by their 'dad' Andy, that in the afternoon there's a possibility he could return to pick them up as her calling him/herself Anna, they expect kids to get their heads round that. They should teach them to hate their own genitals and how best to stab themselves with a fork. Self-harm appears to be growing exponentially in the UK, but it could all be coincidence.
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Post by Dan Dare on Jun 17, 2023 9:31:26 GMT
It's a horrible story of torture and execution. Should young children be taught it in school? By the same token, should they be taught about slavery and the Holocaust?
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Post by Bentley on Jun 17, 2023 9:33:31 GMT
As a child, I would of been far more frightened to see a 6ft bloke in a dress following my sister into the swimming pool changing rooms than watching the crucifixion scene on the telly at Easter.
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 17, 2023 9:36:04 GMT
The detail is 'told to children at school'. They learn that Jesus was nailed to the cross, etc. I see you've tried to change the subject. This thread is about 'warping children's minds' with horrific stories, and exposing them to crucifixes and other images of a man with a large wound in his side nailed to a cross. If you are concerned about another matter, start your own thread. No. I am saying I would rather children be told Jesus was crucified giving no more detail than that, other than he was stuck to a cross; in comparison to having a confused human come into their school reading them a confusing book in the hope it confuses the children about who, or what they are. I imagine it's only a matter of time before the 'snowflakes' start agitating to have images of torture and execution removed from areas where a child might see them. You won't have a problem with that?
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 17, 2023 9:36:49 GMT
It's a horrible story of torture and execution. Should young children be taught it in school? By the same token, should they be taught about slavery and the Holocaust? I don't think very young children should be taught those things.
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Post by walterpaisley on Jun 17, 2023 9:36:50 GMT
By the same token, should they be taught about slavery and the Holocaust? Yes. Because they happened.
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 17, 2023 9:38:16 GMT
They are teaching children that when they are dropped off at school in the morning by their 'dad' Andy, that in the afternoon there's a possibility he could return to pick them up as her calling him/herself Anna, they expect kids to get their heads round that. They should teach them to hate their own genitals and how best to stab themselves with a fork. Self-harm appears to be growing exponentially in the UK, but it could all be coincidence. That's the point. Most of the people who disapprove of moves to educate children on transgenderism see no problem with exposing those same children to images of torture and execution.
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Post by Bentley on Jun 17, 2023 9:39:11 GMT
By the same token, should they be taught about slavery and the Holocaust? Yes. Because they happened. So did crucifixion. Unless you believe that the only reference to slavery and the holocaust should be in documentaries.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2023 9:41:28 GMT
Yes, as part of R.E. lessons. Without the crucifixion and resurrection there is no eternal life. Whether R.E. could be optional in schools would be an interesting question.
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 17, 2023 9:43:02 GMT
Yes, as part of R.E. lessons. Without the crucifixion and resurrection there is no eternal life. Whether R.E. could be optional in schools would be an interesting question. Can't they be told about that when they are older? Christ was literally tortured to death. Does a child need to know that?
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Post by Bentley on Jun 17, 2023 9:43:55 GMT
They should teach them to hate their own genitals and how best to stab themselves with a fork. Self-harm appears to be growing exponentially in the UK, but it could all be coincidence. That's the point. Most of the people who disapprove of moves to educate children on transgenderism see no problem with exposing those same children to images of torture and execution. If educating children on transgenderism involves warning them against adults claiming that young children can change their sexual identity if they feel like it then I wouldn’t necessarily be against it .
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Post by Orac on Jun 17, 2023 9:45:06 GMT
Perhaps the cult could create a modern religion for modern sensibilities - one in which its saviour is wrongly cancelled by far right agitators and loses a book deal.
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 17, 2023 9:46:18 GMT
That's the point. Most of the people who disapprove of moves to educate children on transgenderism see no problem with exposing those same children to images of torture and execution. If educating children on transgenderism involves warning them against adults claiming that young children can change their sexual identity if they feel like it then I wouldn’t necessarily be against it . Yes, I could have guessed that. I could also have guessed that you would have no objection to exposing small children to images of a tortured death in the name of a religious cult.
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