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Post by jonksy on Jun 13, 2023 14:27:35 GMT
In 2010 the national debt was £144bn. In 2023 it is over £2 trillion and rising. Starmer will have to wait until Labour fix the Tory problem of debt. Pandemic wonky that you so called vulnerable milked for it was worth and of course the antics of the EUSSR in trying to knacker our country. |
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Post by patman post on Jun 13, 2023 14:32:20 GMT
More Tory nonsense, two "reportedly" and two "reported" and the inclusion of the politically unreliable Express. You do understand how journalism works right? Journalist have sources, who feed them information, and then they write a story and we see where it goes. "Reported" has no place in a criminal case (as shown when Trump was impeached with zero actual evidence), but reporting what sources have said is the cornerstone of journalism. Without anonymous sources there would be no news as people would be afraid to speak out. You keep making these foolish statements where you dismiss certain media outlets because they are "not of the left". When it was leaked Labour were dropping their £28b energy company pledge was that fake news? No you muppet, it piled pressure on Labour and they had to admit it was true. You’re largely correct in your comments on journalism. But “Sources close to…”, “The belief around Westminster is…”, “Senior party personnel…” are among familiar wraparound phrases used by journalists in order to obey the instructions of news media bosses to boost or rubbish as required. There have even been examples of journalists actually making up quotes, fabricating reports, sometimes getting the sack, and then going on to greater things… |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 13, 2023 14:43:50 GMT
You do understand how journalism works right? Journalist have sources, who feed them information, and then they write a story and we see where it goes. "Reported" has no place in a criminal case (as shown when Trump was impeached with zero actual evidence), but reporting what sources have said is the cornerstone of journalism. Without anonymous sources there would be no news as people would be afraid to speak out. You keep making these foolish statements where you dismiss certain media outlets because they are "not of the left". When it was leaked Labour were dropping their £28b energy company pledge was that fake news? No you muppet, it piled pressure on Labour and they had to admit it was true. You’re largely correct in your comments on journalism. But “Sources close to…”, “The belief around Westminster is…”, “Senior party personnel…” are among familiar wraparound phrases used by journalists in order to obey the instructions of news media bosses to boost or rubbish as required. There have even been examples of journalists actually making up quotes, fabricating reports, sometimes getting the sack, and then going on to greater things… Maybe wonky should try his luck...And he will....Yet another lot leeching from the UK taxpayers.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2023 17:29:33 GMT
In 2010 the national debt was £144bn. In 2023 it is over £2 trillion and rising. Starmer will have to wait until Labour fix the Tory problem of debt. Pandemic wonky that you so called vulnerable milked for it was worth and of course the antics of the EUSSR in trying to knacker our country. You are living up to your moniker. |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 13, 2023 17:54:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2023 21:38:03 GMT
Quoting the Daily Mail at us convinces intelligent people of nothing other than your own stupidity. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 13, 2023 21:49:10 GMT
Quoting the Daily Mail at us convinces intelligent people of nothing other than your own stupidity. that is an incredibly lazy argument - there are many sources reporting what Starmer said and to dismiss his comments just because they are reported in the Daily Mail is pretty pointless. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2023 22:12:19 GMT
Quoting the Daily Mail at us convinces intelligent people of nothing other than your own stupidity. that is an incredibly lazy argument - there are many sources reporting what Starmer said and to dismiss his comments just because they are reported in the Daily Mail is pretty pointless. Well if there are many other more reliable sources than the Mail saying the same thing, the intelligent thing to have done is to have included some of those sources or used them instead. As for what Starmer may or may not have said, I gave up paying too much attention to what he says long ago because I already know him to be a proven liar. I am more interested in what he does than what he says. When it comes to proven liars talk is cheap and wholly unreliable, and actions really do speak louder than words. But if anyone feels the need to bombard me with more info telling me what I already know about Starmer, they need to present me with a more credible source than the Mail. |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 13, 2023 22:54:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2023 23:02:06 GMT
And again you post a link to a source so notoriously unreliable that anyone who does not inhabit your thought bubble (or should I say emote bubble? lol) is never going to bother reading it. You lack the intelligence to understand that your arguments might be more persuasive if supported by links to more reliable sources. In fact, if you could find the same information posted in sources your opponents are more likely to trust, you'd actually be far more persuasive and might win more arguments. But you lack the brains to have figured that out. |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 13, 2023 23:06:06 GMT
And again you post a link to a source so notoriously unreliable that anyone who does not inhabit your thought bubble (or should I say emote bubble? lol) is never going to bother reading it. You lack the intelligence to understand that your arguments might be more persuasive if supported by links to more reliable sources. In fact, if you could find the same information posted in sources your opponents are more likely to trust, you'd actually be far more persuasive and might win more arguments. But you lack the brains to have figured that out. Yet again Adolf you attack the source and not the content. How droll that is a new one for our books NOT. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2023 6:18:02 GMT
Daily Mail Headline From 1938 Draws Comparisons With Current Reporting Of Calais Migrant Crisis
This Daily Mail Headline From 1938 Is Eerily Similar To Today's Media Coverage
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Comparisons are being drawn between a 1938 Daily Mail article on German Jews entering the UK, and media coverage of the Calais migrant crisis 77 years later.
With the headline "German Jews Pouring Into This Country", the article warns of "aliens" entering the UK through the "back door."
The clipping also appears to talk about a woman who was charged with "knowingly harbouring" a migrant man who she intended to marry.
Enough said about the Mail.
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Post by sheepy on Jun 14, 2023 6:22:45 GMT
Daily Mail Headline From 1938 Draws Comparisons With Current Reporting Of Calais Migrant Crisis This Daily Mail Headline From 1938 Is Eerily Similar To Today's Media Coverage Sophie Brown — The Huffington Post UK 31/07/2015 09:47am BST | Updated August 3, 2015 Comparisons are being drawn between a 1938 Daily Mail article on German Jews entering the UK, and media coverage of the Calais migrant crisis 77 years later. With the headline "German Jews Pouring Into This Country", the article warns of "aliens" entering the UK through the "back door." The clipping also appears to talk about a woman who was charged with "knowingly harbouring" a migrant man who she intended to marry. Enough said about the Mail. It seems the Left have become obsessed with the DM, they must be creating the wrong global image, shame on the DM, pull yourselves together. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 14, 2023 6:27:02 GMT
that is an incredibly lazy argument - there are many sources reporting what Starmer said and to dismiss his comments just because they are reported in the Daily Mail is pretty pointless. Well if there are many other more reliable sources than the Mail saying the same thing, the intelligent thing to have done is to have included some of those sources or used them instead. As for what Starmer may or may not have said, I gave up paying too much attention to what he says long ago because I already know him to be a proven liar. I am more interested in what he does than what he says. When it comes to proven liars talk is cheap and wholly unreliable, and actions really do speak louder than words. But if anyone feels the need to bombard me with more info telling me what I already know about Starmer, they need to present me with a more credible source than the Mail. You have a list of approved sources? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2023 6:43:46 GMT
Quoting the Daily Mail at us convinces intelligent people of nothing other than your own stupidity. that is an incredibly lazy argument - there are many sources reporting what Starmer said and to dismiss his comments just because they are reported in the Daily Mail is pretty pointless. It usually means they have no argument but want to look intelligent amongst other thick lefties. |
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