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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 9, 2023 20:59:20 GMT
Tory MP's will resign from this government and form a new party under the leadership of, yes Boris Johnson.
Hey I didn't just make it up. I just heard it on GB News.
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Post by Handyman on Jun 10, 2023 16:35:20 GMT
Tory MP's will resign from this government and form a new party under the leadership of, yes Boris Johnson. Hey I didn't just make it up. I just heard it on GB News. Now that could get rather interesting  |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 10, 2023 16:41:58 GMT
Tory MP's will resign from this government and form a new party under the leadership of, yes Boris Johnson. Hey I didn't just make it up. I just heard it on GB News. Now that could get rather interesting Get the popcorn in mate. And a couple of six-packs wouldn't go amiss either. |
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Post by zanygame on Jun 10, 2023 17:50:22 GMT
Tory MP's will resign from this government and form a new party under the leadership of, yes Boris Johnson. Hey I didn't just make it up. I just heard it on GB News. Ahh I see, they made it up for you. |
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Post by patman post on Jun 10, 2023 18:38:42 GMT
Tory MP's will resign from this government and form a new party under the leadership of, yes Boris Johnson. Hey I didn't just make it up. I just heard it on GB News. Ahh I see, they made it up for you. Wonder if Dorries resigned to give her Dear Leader a chance at getting back into the Commons? Probably not, I don’t think she’s that bright… |
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Post by zanygame on Jun 11, 2023 7:26:46 GMT
Ahh I see, they made it up for you. Wonder if Dorries resigned to give her Dear Leader a chance at getting back into the Commons? Probably not, I don’t think she’s that bright… Or generous |
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Post by Orac on Jun 11, 2023 7:31:27 GMT
It has certainly hit the point were there is practically nothing to lose - there is no value at all left in the current Conservative party. It can't win an election and so can't open an opportunity for action and even if it did, it is clear they won't do anything anyway. All dimensions are now flat
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 11, 2023 7:35:52 GMT
Tory MP's will resign from this government and form a new party under the leadership of, yes Boris Johnson. Hey I didn't just make it up. I just heard it on GB News. Ahh I see, they made it up for you. Don't rule it out ZG, stranger things happen. I reckon the only reason Sunak hasn't barred Boris from standing as a Tory MP in the future is because he thinks he just might start his own party especially with Dorries and Adams who are both Boris supporters resigning from government as well. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 11, 2023 7:42:16 GMT
Tory MP's will resign from this government and form a new party under the leadership of, yes Boris Johnson. Hey I didn't just make it up. I just heard it on GB News. Now that could get rather interesting Indeed Handyman, it could get very interesting. Sunak isn't popular with his own backbenchers or the electorate. Boris is a good communicator with a personality and in spite of everything he remains popular. Jacob Rees-Mogg is a Boris ally, will he follow Dorries and Adams? Yes, it could get rather interesting. |
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Post by Handyman on Jun 11, 2023 8:02:47 GMT
IMO the Tory Party used to be slightly right of centre , I think they have now gone to the left of centre which IMHO does not bode well for the up coming GE next year, which will only benefit the Far Left
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Post by zanygame on Jun 11, 2023 8:31:32 GMT
Ahh I see, they made it up for you. Don't rule it out ZG, stranger things happen. I reckon the only reason Sunak hasn't barred Boris from standing as a Tory MP in the future is because he thinks he just might start his own party especially with Dorries and Adams who are both Boris supporters resigning from government as well. The Boris Dorries Adams party. I wish them well. A new fringe party is always fun |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 11, 2023 8:42:38 GMT
Don't rule it out ZG, stranger things happen. I reckon the only reason Sunak hasn't barred Boris from standing as a Tory MP in the future is because he thinks he just might start his own party especially with Dorries and Adams who are both Boris supporters resigning from government as well. The Boris Dorries Adams party. I wish them well. A new fringe party is always fun I agree, it's probably unlikely. However, bi-elections are an unwelcome distraction for Sunak and lets face it, that's why they resigned. |
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Post by Hutchyns on Jun 11, 2023 8:49:50 GMT
Red Rackham
Sir Jacob confirms in his article for the Mail on Sunday today, that he has no intention of resigning. I doubt that Rishi wants to instigate any further by-elections, so he'd be well advised not to antagonise Jacob or any backbenchers who are less than impressed with his 'leadership'.
I'm uncertain as to the level of popularity Rishi currently has among Tory MPs. When he trailed in a distant second to Liz in the leadership contest, it seemed a foregone conclusion to me that Rishi and his extreme wealth would choose another path, either in International politics or going back into business, and probably move to the United States. Life as a backbench MP seemed a strange choice, but I suspect he was persuaded to stay on by some sort of assurance from enough Tory MPs that if he was willing to hang around for another 6 months or so, that they could oust Liz and get him installed as leader ... this time sidelining the Party membership from having any say in the matter. That's not to say that even Rishi and his supporters weren't pleasantly surprised by how quickly they achieved their goal.
Rishi I suspect, retains a decent amount of support within the Conservative Parliamentary Party, and the fact that he's in the good books of Washington, the EU, NATO, etc means he's got powerful friends in high places who can twist arms to make sure he's not removed this side of a General Election.
By the time the public can remove him, it won't matter anyway, as a replacement Labour/Lib Dem alliance will just continue along the same path towards gradual reintegration with the EU, following the US lead on Ukraine, and changing the face of Britain at an alarming rate.
As for Boris, with a young wife, numerous young kids, and now with lots of money, an enjoyable and comfortable life outside of Parliament could satisfy him ...with plenty of lucrative opportunities to work as America's main cheerleader in the UK, or to agitate from the sidelines when it comes to domestic politics.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 11, 2023 10:06:50 GMT
Red Rackham Sir Jacob confirms in his article for the Mail on Sunday today, that he has no intention of resigning. I doubt that Rishi wants to instigate any further by-elections, so he'd be well advised not to antagonise Jacob or any backbenchers who are less than impressed with his 'leadership'. I'm uncertain as to the level of popularity Rishi currently has among Tory MPs. When he trailed in a distant second to Liz in the leadership contest, it seemed a foregone conclusion to me that Rishi and his extreme wealth would choose another path, either in International politics or going back into business, and probably move to the United States. Life as a backbench MP seemed a strange choice, but I suspect he was persuaded to stay on by some sort of assurance from enough Tory MPs that if he was willing to hang around for another 6 months or so, that they could oust Liz and get him installed as leader ... this time sidelining the Party membership from having any say in the matter. That's not to say that even Rishi and his supporters weren't pleasantly surprised by how quickly they achieved their goal. Rishi I suspect, retains a decent amount of support within the Conservative Parliamentary Party, and the fact that he's in the good books of Washington, the EU, NATO, etc means he's got powerful friends in high places who can twist arms to make sure he's not removed this side of a General Election. By the time the public can remove him, it won't matter anyway, as a replacement Labour/Lib Dem alliance will just continue along the same path towards gradual reintegration with the EU, following the US lead on Ukraine, and changing the face of Britain at an alarming rate. As for Boris, with a young wife, numerous young kids, and now with lots of money, an enjoyable and comfortable life outside of Parliament could satisfy him ...with plenty of lucrative opportunities to work as America's main cheerleader in the UK, or to agitate from the sidelines when it comes to domestic politics. In my opinion, as far as the Tory faithful are concerned Sunak's biggest problem is the fact that he is not a Conservative, certainly not a traditional centre right Conservative. He is not a nationalist, he is a pro EU, pro WEF internationalist. He is more of a Social Democrat than a Tory, in fact he has more in common with Starmer than he has with many on his own back benches. Having said that, I expect Sunak does have the support of the majority of the Conservative Parliamentary Party, publicly at least. Come the next election I sense Tory voters like me will vote conservative not because of Sunak or his policies, but because they see the Tories as the least worst option. What a sad indictment of British politics. As for Boris, well who knows. Earlier Farage was on GB News, he was asked whether he would join a new party with Boris, OK he laughed, but it was very noticeable that he didn't say no. OK I know it's unlikely but two huge personalities like Farage and Boris joining forces would be a worry for Sunak, I think. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Jun 11, 2023 11:31:01 GMT
I wouldn't put it past Boris to stand in Rishi's 'ultra-safe' seat in N. Yorkshire, the one that used to be William Hague's before Rishi was parachuted in.
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