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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2023 13:55:31 GMT
I see, you are actually trolling me, poor form. In the event of no argument bring up inane arguments and begin 'splitting hairs'. Well its a simple question - did Thatcher meet with terrorists (like Corbyn) yes or no.. Whether Thatcher met or did not meet IRA members is something I do not know and neither do you because such meetings were held in secret but to the best of my knowledge she did not but ministers met them on her behalf. (this is an example of answering a direct question with a direct answer). Yes we all know Corbyn met the IRA (this is an example of answering a direct question with a direct answer). Corbyn never held an official post in a government when he met the IRA, Johnson was Foreign Secretary when he met a Russian spy. You question about Thatcher meeting the IRA only shows why the question needs to be asked, as to why Johnson ditched his advisors to meet the said Russian spy, it makes the whole incident look even worse. Now, would you have had a different attitude towards any Labour MP, never mind Corbyn, who ditched his security and advisors to fly off and meet a Russian spy?A straight answer would be appreciated.
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 23, 2023 6:44:56 GMT
Well its a simple question - did Thatcher meet with terrorists (like Corbyn) yes or no.. Whether Thatcher met or did not meet IRA members is something I do not know So why did you claim that Thatcher met with terrorists in secret? Habitual liar perhaps?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2023 7:03:10 GMT
Whether Thatcher met or did not meet IRA members is something I do not know So why did you claim that Thatcher met with terrorists in secret? Habitual liar perhaps? Habitual troll maybe. You know as well as I do that language is used ever thus. Thatcher authorised the meetings and may even have attended but you would rather continue this stupid game of 'splitting hairs'. I notice that you still will not give a straight answer to my question. It's not a good look.
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 23, 2023 7:21:45 GMT
So why did you claim that Thatcher met with terrorists in secret? Habitual liar perhaps? Habitual troll maybe. You know as well as I do that language is used ever thus.
Thatcher authorised the meetings and may even have attended but you would rather continue this stupid game of 'splitting hairs'. I notice that you still will not give a straight answer to my question. It's not a good look. Well your language might involve lying but mine certainly does not..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2023 9:08:08 GMT
Habitual troll maybe. You know as well as I do that language is used ever thus.
Thatcher authorised the meetings and may even have attended but you would rather continue this stupid game of 'splitting hairs'. I notice that you still will not give a straight answer to my question. It's not a good look. Well your language might involve lying but mine certainly does not.. Still no answer, as weak as Sunak.
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 23, 2023 16:42:37 GMT
Well your language might involve lying but mine certainly does not.. Still no answer, as weak as Sunak. How can I answer anything - you keep inventing things?. Why not try sticking to facts instead of lying about people?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2023 16:56:29 GMT
Still no answer, as weak as Sunak. How can I answer anything - you keep inventing things?. Why not try sticking to facts instead of lying about people? When have I lied to anyone? Please provide an example. What have I invented? Please provide an example. You are just blathering because you would condemn any Labour minister for doing what Johnson has done but defend Johnson, double standards at it's best. Or of course, you are just trolling.
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 23, 2023 17:43:18 GMT
How can I answer anything - you keep inventing things?. Why not try sticking to facts instead of lying about people? When have I lied to anyone? Please provide an example. What have I invented? Please provide an example. One minute you say: "What part of 'Thatcher met with terrorists in secret passed you by"?"
And then you say: "Whether Thatcher met or did not meet IRA members is something I do not know"So if you dont know then your original claim is a lie - you invented that.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2023 6:21:54 GMT
When have I lied to anyone? Please provide an example. What have I invented? Please provide an example. One minute you say: "What part of 'Thatcher met with terrorists in secret passed you by"?"
And then you say: "Whether Thatcher met or did not meet IRA members is something I do not know"So if you dont know then your original claim is a lie - you invented that. "Margaret Thatcher gave her personal approval to secret talks between government officials and the IRA leadership in 1990, setting in a train a dialogue which led to the Northern Ireland peace process which she now regularly denounces. In one of her final acts before she was deposed as prime minister, Lady Thatcher allowed her Northern Ireland secretary, Peter Brooke, to talk to republicans through a secret "back channel" after MI5 advised the government that the IRA was looking at ways of ending its terrorist campaign. The disclosure of her involvement will embarrass the former prime minister who has always insisted she never talked to terrorists. Lady Thatcher, who was nearly murdered by the IRA in the 1984 Brighton bomb attack, also gave the go-ahead to the talks in the same year that republicans murdered her friend and close colleague, Ian Gow". Guardian You are playing with words a typical trolling tactic. I could do exactly the same just from your post that I am responding to but I for one, do not want to look childish as you appear to do.
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 24, 2023 6:47:57 GMT
You are playing with words a typical trolling tactic. If pointing out lies is now trolling then I stand tall... However all you needed to say was that you fucked up, didnt mean what you had written and then moved on.. Oh joy..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2023 8:05:51 GMT
You are playing with words a typical trolling tactic. If pointing out lies is now trolling then I stand tall... However all you needed to say was that you fucked up, didnt mean what you had written and then moved on.. Oh joy.. Thatcher authorised her government ministers to talk to terrorists therefore they spoke on her behalf, it really is simple. I meant exactly what I said Thatcher spoke to terrorists. "Margaret Thatcher 'negotiated with IRA'". BBC news Now stop trolling.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2023 8:31:23 GMT
You are playing with words a typical trolling tactic. If pointing out lies is now trolling then I stand tall... However all you needed to say was that you fucked up, didnt mean what you had written and then moved on.. Oh joy.. My original post on Thatcher. "Thatcher even said in a famous speech "We will never negotiate with terrorists" while secretly negotiating with terrorists". Quote. Because I said 'met' in a later post you have used that as for your own amusement whilst knowing exactly what I meant as a Troll would do. Whilst still not admitting your own bias when it comes to Labour.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2023 11:47:28 GMT
You are playing with words a typical trolling tactic. If pointing out lies is now trolling then I stand tall... However all you needed to say was that you fucked up, didnt mean what you had written and then moved on.. Oh joy.. "However, in the majority of situations there is generally some other issue at the heart of a dispute, rather than an actual desire to kill the other party being the motivation in itself. 'Wanting to kill' wasn't deemed the primary objective, and so Ukraine and Russia decided that after all, they should get together and attempt to resolve their dispute. Russia happy to head back home, and Ukraine satisfied they'd fulfilled their obligations to the US, cash already safely tucked in Swiss bank accounts and the added sweetener of EU membership. Your words to another post. Russia and Ukraine cannot talk and certainly cannot decide, so it is obviously a lie, according to you reasoning. A country does not have feelings so cannot be 'happy'. Another lie. You cannot tuck money into a bank account, another lie.
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 24, 2023 16:59:20 GMT
If pointing out lies is now trolling then I stand tall... However all you needed to say was that you fucked up, didnt mean what you had written and then moved on.. Oh joy.. "However, in the majority of situations there is generally some other issue at the heart of a dispute, rather than an actual desire to kill the other party being the motivation in itself. 'Wanting to kill' wasn't deemed the primary objective, and so Ukraine and Russia decided that after all, they should get together and attempt to resolve their dispute. Russia happy to head back home, and Ukraine satisfied they'd fulfilled their obligations to the US, cash already safely tucked in Swiss bank accounts and the added sweetener of EU membership. Your words to another post. Russia and Ukraine cannot talk and certainly cannot decide, so it is obviously a lie, according to you reasoning. A country does not have feelings so cannot be 'happy'. Another lie. You cannot tuck money into a bank account, another lie. Are you drunk?
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Post by Hutchyns on Jun 24, 2023 18:10:11 GMT
Don't try to wriggle out of it Pacifico. We're all waiting to learn how a country can have feelings, plus some details regarding a 'tuckable' bank account
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