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Post by Toreador on Jun 9, 2023 11:26:56 GMT
The thread is so stupid, and so VERY unintelligent that its barely worth making any comment A criminal is a criminal, irregardless of whatever race, nationality or faith that person is But what often makes criminal acts complicated is mental health - a much better topic for discussion would have been SHOULD WE LOOK UPON PURPETRATORS OF CRIME WHO HAVE PSYCHIATRIC CONDITIONS DIFFERENTLY ? My own view is that the Number 1 priority in considering such people is the safety of the public, a person with mental health issues who committs such terrible crimes cannot escape punishment, but the punishment must take into consideration the persons mental state. Its why we have secure hospitals, its why we have Broadmoor and Rampton ... punishment - isolation from the public - treatment. I wondered why you were on here.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2023 12:04:38 GMT
The fact that one man out of millions of refugees who have settled in Europe has committed a terrible crime is not a valid reason against F.O.M
If it were, then it would also be a valid reason for halting all forms of migration / immigration, including work related, education related, and then there s people who go abroad on holliday.
Using this one incident against a freedom which has benefitted MILLIONS is barmy, there is risk involved with everything.
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 9, 2023 12:11:17 GMT
The fact that one man out of millions of refugees who have settled in Europe has committed a terrible crime is not a valid reason against F.O.M If it were, then it would also be a valid reason for halting all forms of migration / immigration, including work related, education related, and then there s people who go abroad on holliday. Using this one incident against a freedom which has benefitted MILLIONS is barmy, there is risk involved with everything. Wrong ... as usual.
An asylum seeker posted Islamic State (IS) propaganda on social media after the bombing at a Liverpool hospital, a jury has heard.
Ahmiri Ahmedi Azizi, 24, from Sheffield, is said to have shared the footage the day after the attack.
Emad Al Swealmeen died when a device exploded in a taxi outside Liverpool Women's Hospital on 14 November.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2023 17:25:38 GMT
The fact that one man out of millions of refugees who have settled in Europe has committed a terrible crime is not a valid reason against F.O.M If it were, then it would also be a valid reason for halting all forms of migration / immigration, including work related, education related, and then there s people who go abroad on holliday. Using this one incident against a freedom which has benefitted MILLIONS is barmy, there is risk involved with everything. Wrong ... as usual.
An asylum seeker posted Islamic State (IS) propaganda on social media after the bombing at a Liverpool hospital, a jury has heard.
Ahmiri Ahmedi Azizi, 24, from Sheffield, is said to have shared the footage the day after the attack.
Emad Al Swealmeen died when a device exploded in a taxi outside Liverpool Women's Hospital on 14 November.
Every year British Embassies, Consulates and High Commissions deal with THOUSANDS of cases of British people who have been arrested in foreign countries. Most cases are minor, such as been drunk, causing public outrage, but some cases are more serious, there are many cases each year of possession of drugs, drug dealing, smuggling, sexual offences, theft, violence and occassionaly murder. When you get migration / immigration or intakes of many thousands of refugees, you are bound to get the occassional criminal amongst the numbers. Germany has the highest number of refugees of any country in Europe, estimated at around 1.4 Million, and criminality amongst Germanys refugee population IS NOT widespread or common, but there are cases, as you would expect amongst 1.4 million people. Sweden has the highest number of refugees per head of population in Europe, around 250,000, and criminality amongst Swedens refugee population is not much different to the general population. Suggesting that there is a case for curbing Europe's free movement, a concept which MOST Europeans welcome, and millions enjoy, because of one incident, is quite frankly stark raving bonkers, and it aint gonna happen.
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Post by jonksy on Jun 9, 2023 17:30:32 GMT
Wrong ... as usual.
An asylum seeker posted Islamic State (IS) propaganda on social media after the bombing at a Liverpool hospital, a jury has heard.
Ahmiri Ahmedi Azizi, 24, from Sheffield, is said to have shared the footage the day after the attack.
Emad Al Swealmeen died when a device exploded in a taxi outside Liverpool Women's Hospital on 14 November.
Every year British Embassies, Consulates and High Commissions deal with THOUSANDS of cases of British people who have been arrested in foreign countries. Most cases are minor, such as been drunk, causing public outrage, but some cases are more serious, there are many cases each year of possession of drugs, drug dealing, smuggling, sexual offences, theft, violence and occassionaly murder. When you get migration / immigration or intakes of many thousands of refugees, you are bound to get the occassional criminal amongst the numbers. Germany has the highest number of refugees of any country in Europe, estimated at around 1.4 Million, and criminality amongst Germanys refugee population IS NOT widespread or common, but there are cases, as you would expect amongst 1.4 million people. Sweden has the highest number of refugees per head of population in Europe, around 250,000, and criminality amongst Swedens refugee population is not much different to the general population. Suggesting that there is a case for curbing Europe's free movement, a concept which MOST Europeans welcome, and millions enjoy, because of one incident, is quite frankly stark raving bonkers, and it aint gonna happen. Here ya go fiddler. We al know you would support the arsehole. You do know that it was a British family who took the brunt of this ringpeices attack don't you. Nah I guess not it would be that you got something correct for once..
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 9, 2023 17:33:37 GMT
Wrong ... as usual.
An asylum seeker posted Islamic State (IS) propaganda on social media after the bombing at a Liverpool hospital, a jury has heard.
Ahmiri Ahmedi Azizi, 24, from Sheffield, is said to have shared the footage the day after the attack.
Emad Al Swealmeen died when a device exploded in a taxi outside Liverpool Women's Hospital on 14 November.
Every year British Embassies, Consulates and High Commissions deal with THOUSANDS of cases of British people who have been arrested in foreign countries. Most cases are minor, such as been drunk, causing public outrage, but some cases are more serious, there are many cases each year of possession of drugs, drug dealing, smuggling, sexual offences, theft, violence and occassionaly murder. When you get migration / immigration or intakes of many thousands of refugees, you are bound to get the occassional criminal amongst the numbers. Germany has the highest number of refugees of any country in Europe, estimated at around 1.4 Million, and criminality amongst Germanys refugee population IS NOT widespread or common, but there are cases, as you would expect amongst 1.4 million people. Sweden has the highest number of refugees per head of population in Europe, around 250,000, and criminality amongst Swedens refugee population is not much different to the general population. Suggesting that there is a case for curbing Europe's free movement, a concept which MOST Europeans welcome, and millions enjoy, because of one incident, is quite frankly stark raving bonkers, and it aint gonna happen. I was responding to your claim that the France incident was a one-off, it's not a one-off, these asylum seekers use FOM to shift through countries until they find one that's a soft touch, like the UK. They start to get pissed off when they aren't given their Free luxury homes, and FREE stacks of money, so they become discontent like the Liverpool hospital bomber, because we aren't living up to their expectations.
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Post by jonksy on Jun 9, 2023 17:35:44 GMT
Every year British Embassies, Consulates and High Commissions deal with THOUSANDS of cases of British people who have been arrested in foreign countries. Most cases are minor, such as been drunk, causing public outrage, but some cases are more serious, there are many cases each year of possession of drugs, drug dealing, smuggling, sexual offences, theft, violence and occassionaly murder. When you get migration / immigration or intakes of many thousands of refugees, you are bound to get the occassional criminal amongst the numbers. Germany has the highest number of refugees of any country in Europe, estimated at around 1.4 Million, and criminality amongst Germanys refugee population IS NOT widespread or common, but there are cases, as you would expect amongst 1.4 million people. Sweden has the highest number of refugees per head of population in Europe, around 250,000, and criminality amongst Swedens refugee population is not much different to the general population. Suggesting that there is a case for curbing Europe's free movement, a concept which MOST Europeans welcome, and millions enjoy, because of one incident, is quite frankly stark raving bonkers, and it aint gonna happen. I was responding to your claim that the France incident was a one-off, it's not a one-off, these asylum seekers use FOM to shift through countries until they find one that's a soft touch, like the UK. They start to get pissed off when they aren't given their Free luxury homes, and FREE stacks of money, so they become discontent like the Liverpool hospital bomber, because we aren't living up to their expectations. British child among four with 'life-threatening injuries' after knife attack in France A male Syrian national with "legal refugee status" has been arrested following a "cowardly" incident in a park in Annecy.
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 9, 2023 17:40:07 GMT
I was responding to your claim that the France incident was a one-off, it's not a one-off, these asylum seekers use FOM to shift through countries until they find one that's a soft touch, like the UK. They start to get pissed off when they aren't given their Free luxury homes, and FREE stacks of money, so they become discontent like the Liverpool hospital bomber, because we aren't living up to their expectations. British child among four with 'life-threatening injuries' after knife attack in France A male Syrian national with "legal refugee status" has been arrested following a "cowardly" incident in a park in Annecy.
Big brave arse wanks, targeting children, then they start sniffing round schools looking for young school girls to rape, they shit their pants when they are mobbed outside their free hotels, by angry mobs of parents, they barricade themselves in and want the police to help them .....shit houses.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2023 17:40:13 GMT
Every year British Embassies, Consulates and High Commissions deal with THOUSANDS of cases of British people who have been arrested in foreign countries. Most cases are minor, such as been drunk, causing public outrage, but some cases are more serious, there are many cases each year of possession of drugs, drug dealing, smuggling, sexual offences, theft, violence and occassionaly murder. When you get migration / immigration or intakes of many thousands of refugees, you are bound to get the occassional criminal amongst the numbers. Germany has the highest number of refugees of any country in Europe, estimated at around 1.4 Million, and criminality amongst Germanys refugee population IS NOT widespread or common, but there are cases, as you would expect amongst 1.4 million people. Sweden has the highest number of refugees per head of population in Europe, around 250,000, and criminality amongst Swedens refugee population is not much different to the general population. Suggesting that there is a case for curbing Europe's free movement, a concept which MOST Europeans welcome, and millions enjoy, because of one incident, is quite frankly stark raving bonkers, and it aint gonna happen. Here ya go fiddler. We al know you would support the arsehole. You do know that it was a British family who took the brunt of this ringpeices attack don't you. Nah I guess not it would be that you got something correct for once..
Explain in your own words how you come to THIS conclusion "We al know you would support the arsehole" Can you point out where I have shown any support for the person who carried out the stabbings ?
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Post by jonksy on Jun 9, 2023 17:44:19 GMT
Here ya go fiddler. We al know you would support the arsehole. You do know that it was a British family who took the brunt of this ringpeices attack don't you. Nah I guess not it would be that you got something correct for once..
Explain in your own words how you come to THIS conclusion "We al know you would support the arsehole" Can you point out where I have shown any support for the person who carried out the stabbings ? As per usual fiddler you go off half cocked. maybe you should enlighten the famiies of those who have children with life changing injuries what you think. I am sure they will be all ears.....NOT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2023 17:54:19 GMT
Two things Jonksy
Firstly, I repeat what I asked you - WHERE in your opinion have I showed any support for the person who carried out the stabbings.
Secondly, WHY have you posted a video from YouTube about someone's opinion on Islam ?
Can you explain what the video or the topic of the video has got to do with the stabbings in France, explain the connection so that I might understand. ?
Would it surprise you Jonksy to learn that the man who did this is a Christian and NOT a Muslim ?
I bet you feel like a right idiot now dont you ?
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Post by jonksy on Jun 9, 2023 18:00:35 GMT
Two things JonksyFirstly, I repeat what I asked you - WHERE in your opinion have I showed any support for the person who carried out the stabbings. Secondly, WHY have you posted a video from YouTube about someone's opinion on Islam ? Can you explain what the video or the topic of the video has got to do with the stabbings in France, explain the connection so that I might understand. ? Would it surprise you Jonksy to learn that the man who did this is a Christian and NOT a Muslim ? I bet you feel like a right idiot now dont you ? You support anything fiddler to do with the down-fall of the UK. I am sure you make starmer proud. Whilst making the rest of mankind who think for themselves sick to the stomach.
EDIT......Not once have you offered any support to these poor families who are involved in this attrocity. No you would rather try to impy it was there fault.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2023 18:02:44 GMT
Two things JonksyFirstly, I repeat what I asked you - WHERE in your opinion have I showed any support for the person who carried out the stabbings. Secondly, WHY have you posted a video from YouTube about someone's opinion on Islam ? Can you explain what the video or the topic of the video has got to do with the stabbings in France, explain the connection so that I might understand. ? Would it surprise you Jonksy to learn that the man who did this is a Christian and NOT a Muslim ? I bet you feel like a right idiot now dont you ? I was about to post that Sid has not actually supported the murderer, in any words in any post. Jonksy does sometimes go off on one. I would ask sidfiddler how you know that this man was a Christian. Is it because he is alleged to have said "in the name of Jesus Christ" when he was stabbing people?
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Post by jonksy on Jun 9, 2023 18:04:40 GMT
Two things JonksyFirstly, I repeat what I asked you - WHERE in your opinion have I showed any support for the person who carried out the stabbings. Secondly, WHY have you posted a video from YouTube about someone's opinion on Islam ? Can you explain what the video or the topic of the video has got to do with the stabbings in France, explain the connection so that I might understand. ? Would it surprise you Jonksy to learn that the man who did this is a Christian and NOT a Muslim ? I bet you feel like a right idiot now dont you ? I was about to post that Sid has not actually supported the murderer, in any words in any post. Jonksy does sometimes go off on one. I would ask sidfiddler how you know that this man was a Christian. Is it because he is alleged to have said "in the name of Jesus Christ" when he was stabbing people? It makes me go off on one Ned when individuals make excuses for these terroists.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2023 18:14:44 GMT
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