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Post by thomas on Oct 27, 2022 7:55:51 GMT
Exactly. How many labour members left the party because of starmers lies to gain power?
srb steve , a current forum member , is one of them.
I wouldnt trust keir starmer if he told me the sun was going to rise in the morning, i would stick my neck out the window to check first.
Yes but Johnson would be first in the queue to close it and chop your head off. Which is why i dont vote tory either.
What is it about primarily english membership forums that cant rise above left right two party if you dont like one you must like the other politics?
Johnson was an avowed liar. Starmer pretends he is whiter than white , and is as false as fack which is why no one likes him.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 27, 2022 9:31:35 GMT
Starmer got a kicking. He lead with diversity, while sitting on an almost totally white front bench, and then proceeded to have his arse handed to him over crime and immigration. And his response wasn't policy based, but entirely based on attacking the personalities opposite. He's going to need to do a lot better or he's toast.UKIP . Sunak is just a Johnston clone without the verbal waffle. He answered nothing and lied through his teeth. Just another right wing liar. In terms of toast. How many PM. Cabinet members, and sleaze bags in the present UKIP thinking right wing fascist clown car muppet show that calls itself a government have been/will be toast since Starmer became leader of the opposition. Sunak. performance was a joke. Just like his appointments. Next through the revolving doors of right wing toast. Braverman. ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/post/8718/thread ' '
If you're going to quote me, please don't doctor the quote.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 27, 2022 9:48:11 GMT
What is it about primarily english membership forums that cant rise above left right two party if you dont like one you must like the other politics? Well at least you've solved that with your one party state.
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Post by thomas on Oct 27, 2022 11:17:30 GMT
What is it about primarily english membership forums that cant rise above left right two party if you dont like one you must like the other politics? Well at least you've solved that with your one party state. you are one to talk , with two parties in a fptp anti democratic stitch up , with a fag papers width between them both in policy apart from brexit.
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 27, 2022 11:23:22 GMT
The electorate was lied to and deceived by the leave campaign. LOL, lied to my arse, get in the bin ffs. Just before the referendum the chancellor said if we voted to leave the single market and customs union, he would have to hold an emergency budget in which VAT and income tax would go up by 3%. That was a blatant lie. Just before the referendum prime minister Cameron said if we voted to leave the single market and customs union, the government would not be able to afford old age pensions. That was a blatant lie cynically aimed at a pro Brexit age group.
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Post by dodgydave on Oct 27, 2022 11:28:12 GMT
I think the final part of your last sentence is something that will come back to bite starmer on the bum come election time. Whatever your politics , no one likes an anti democrat that trys to piss on the publics vote.This is a lead weight around starmers neck. Why what anti-democratic about trying to hold back the disaster that Brexit has caused on the British people. What disaster? I am one of 100,000 truck drivers that are now earning decent money again. You keep calling it a disaster, I'll keep earning an extra £20k a year! I'll ask our 20 apprentice drivers if they think it is a disaster too. God damn Brexit making them earn £50k at 21!!
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 27, 2022 11:32:24 GMT
I think the final part of your last sentence is something that will come back to bite starmer on the bum come election time. Whatever your politics , no one likes an anti democrat that trys to piss on the publics vote.This is a lead weight around starmers neck. Why what anti-democratic about trying to hold back the disaster that Brexit has caused on the British people. What disaster? I am one of 100,000 truck drivers that are now earning decent money again. You keep calling it a disaster, I'll keep earning an extra £20k a year! I'll ask our 20 apprentice drivers if they think it is a disaster too. God damn Brexit making them earn £50k at 21!! LOL
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Post by thomas on Oct 27, 2022 11:33:47 GMT
The electorate was lied to and deceived by the leave campaign. LOL, lied to my arse, get in the bin ffs. Just before the referendum the chancellor said if we voted to leave the single market and customs union, he would have to hold an emergency budget in which VAT and income tax would go up by 3%. That was a blatant lie. Just before the referendum prime minister Cameron said if we voted to leave the single market and customs union, the government would not be able to afford old age pensions. That was a blatant lie cynically aimed at a pro Brexit age group. politicians lying?
If we were to rescind elections for politicians lying there would never have been a government elected in history.
Thats a hundred years now we have been waiting onthe labour parties promise to abolish the house of lords , and instead it gets lied about and trotted out every election for the gullible to hug themsleves over.
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Post by Toreador on Oct 27, 2022 12:18:13 GMT
I think the final part of your last sentence is something that will come back to bite starmer on the bum come election time. Whatever your politics , no one likes an anti democrat that trys to piss on the publics vote.This is a lead weight around starmers neck. Why what anti-democratic about trying to hold back the disaster that Brexit has caused on the British people. Because it hasn't caused a disaster other than in the eyes of remainers.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2022 12:32:31 GMT
Sunak is just a Johnston clone without the verbal waffle. He answered nothing and lied through his teeth. Just another right wing liar. In terms of toast. How many PM. Cabinet members, and sleaze bags in the present UKIP thinking right wing fascist clown car muppet show that calls itself a government have been/will be toast since Starmer became leader of the opposition. Sunak. performance was a joke. Just like his appointments. Next through the revolving doors of right wing toast. Braverman. ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/post/8718/thread ' '
If you're going to quote me, please don't doctor the quote.
Why have you got a penis for an avatar?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2022 12:35:33 GMT
What is it about primarily english membership forums that cant rise above left right two party if you dont like one you must like the other politics? Well at least you've solved that with your one party state. A result of FPTP.
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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 27, 2022 12:37:54 GMT
Dodgydave consider yourself lucky has wage has increased for 1in10 for firms that relied on EU workforce.
And hold onto to your increase because the average wage is set to decrease by £500 a year because of Brexit.
And how does wage increase count in real terms when inflation is taken into count has inflation has increased massively post Brexit.
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 27, 2022 16:25:15 GMT
If you're going to quote me, please don't doctor the quote.
Why have you got a penis for an avatar? To fuck pussy's?
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 27, 2022 16:26:49 GMT
Dodgydave consider yourself lucky has wage has increased for 1in10 for firms that relied on EU workforce. And hold onto to your increase because the average wage is set to decrease by £500 a year because of Brexit. And how does wage increase count in real terms when inflation is taken into count has inflation has increased massively post Brexit. Strange how when you allow companies to drop ready trained cheap labour from abroad into positions, they are less likely to train British staff. Who'da thunk it!?
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 27, 2022 17:14:59 GMT
Seems that Rishi is doing quite well considering that he hasn't actually done anything yet..
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