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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2023 10:26:17 GMT
Improved supply chain leading to increased production only to be confronted with weak demand. Let's hope a similar situation doesn't happen to financial services. ----------- excerpts from: www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jun/01/brexit-historic-economic-error-larry-summers-former-us-treasury-secretaryUK factories blame 16th month in a row of falling exports on Brexit barriers
Companies report trading with Europe is now more difficult as Larry Summers says exit from EU ‘contributed to higher inflation’ British factories have reported a 16th consecutive month of falling exports, with manufacturers warning obstacles to trade since leaving the EU are undermining business relationships with firms on the continent. The findings came as the former US treasury secretary Larry Summers said Brexit will be remembered as a “historic economic error” that damaged the UK economy and has helped to drive inflation higher. The manufacturing sector contracted for a 10th consecutive month in May, dragged down by steady falls in exports over the last 16 months, according to the S&P Global/CIPS purchasing managers index (PMI). S&P spokesperson Rob Dobson said: “Manufacturers are finding that any potential boost to production from improving supply chains is being completely negated by weak demand, client destocking and a general shift in spending in the UK away from goods to services. These factors are also driving a broad decrease in demand from overseas amid reports of lost orders from the US and mainland Europe. The retrenchment in export demand is also being exacerbated by some EU clients switching to more local sourcing to avoid post-Brexit trade complications.” Make UK, the manufacturers’ lobby group, said exporters lacked government support. “With powerful domestic manufacturing policies in place in the US and the EU, manufacturers can see that the likelihood of much export expansion to the UK’s biggest manufactured goods trading partners is dwindling,” it said. Their comments underlined criticism from Summers earlier in the day. He singled out Britain’s departure from the EU as a factor for higher costs, criticising the UK’s economic policy as “substantially flawed for some years”. Brexit “reduced the competitiveness of the UK economy, put downwards pressure on the pound and upwards pressure on prices, limited imports of goods and limited in some ways the supply of labour,” Summers told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme. All of which contributed to higher inflation,” he added. In a stark critique of Britain’s management of the economy, Summers did not spare the Bank of England. He blamed the central bank for higher levels of inflation... A recent report showed that British households have paid £7bn since Brexit to cover the extra cost of trade barriers on food imports from the EU. Researchers at the London School of Economics (LSE) estimated the impact of leaving the bloc on UK food prices and found that trade barriers consistently hampered imports, pushing up bills by an average of £250. The UK has the highest food inflation rate in the industrialised world, according to recent data. The LSE researchers calculated the cost of food in the UK had rocketed by 25% since 2019, but this would have been only 17% without post-Brexit trade restrictions, nearly a third lower.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2023 22:05:54 GMT
MOST British people now accept that Brexit was a bad idea, and many people who voted LEAVE now wish they had voted REMAIN.
Ex Tory Party chairman Chris Patton on Question Time last night revealed how much Brexit has added to food inflation, but some wont accept reality.
The Brexit warriors cannot give a single example of where we are better off due to Brexit, there are no benefits.
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 3, 2023 7:12:00 GMT
MOST British people now accept that Brexit was a bad idea, and many people who voted LEAVE now wish they had voted REMAIN. Ex Tory Party chairman Chris Patton on Question Time last night revealed how much Brexit has added to food inflation, but some wont accept reality.
The Brexit warriors cannot give a single example of where we are better off due to Brexit, there are no benefits. Yes - and didnt he get slaughtered for making those numbers up..
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Post by Vinny on Jun 3, 2023 7:36:06 GMT
Chris Patten is a Europhile. He wanted us in the Euro. He's also a former Commissioner who served in the Prodi Comission.
His bias is plain for all to see.
The man is a cultist. He was part of the John Major, Michael Heseltine, Geoffrey Howe, Douglas Hurd, Maastricht clique.
Our exports to the EU, are up from £236.8 billion in 2016 to £340 billion now. A gain well above inflation. Our exports to the rest of the world are up.
Remoaner lies do not stand up to scrutiny.
The benefits are there if you open your eyes and look.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2023 10:10:07 GMT
Chris Patton is one of a small handful of Tories I respect, people like Ken Clarke and Michael Heseltine, who are the old fashioned, traditional One Nation Conservatives, with deeply held values.
The more modern Conservatives are divisive and have fuelled a divided Britain, they are the populists who want to focus on Culture Wars as much as the real issues which affect peoples daily lives.
People like Rees Mogg and Gove are the reverse side of Jeremy Corbyn - the same coin, opposite sides; Bitter, caustic politics without compromise or tolerance.
True One Nation Tories believed in the EU because they are fully aware that it is, and always was in the best interests of the British people, we were better off.
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Post by bancroft on Jun 3, 2023 11:04:09 GMT
If we go back in we will get the Romanian and Polish criminals back and more Irish travellers, fine if you live in a gated community and have most things delivered.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2023 12:23:09 GMT
MOST British people now accept that Brexit was a bad idea, and many people who voted LEAVE now wish they had voted REMAIN.
Ex Tory Party chairman Chris Patton on Question Time last night revealed how much Brexit has added to food inflation, but some wont accept reality. The Brexit warriors cannot give a single example of where we are better off due to Brexit, there are no benefits. Indeed! And what Chris Patten was asking of the government and of damage deniers is to be open, realistic, and honest about how Brexit has damaged the country and move on from there. Sadly, what we're getting from them, including the opposition, is that we must stop talking about it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2023 12:30:46 GMT
MOST British people now accept that Brexit was a bad idea, and many people who voted LEAVE now wish they had voted REMAIN. Ex Tory Party chairman Chris Patton on Question Time last night revealed how much Brexit has added to food inflation, but some wont accept reality.
The Brexit warriors cannot give a single example of where we are better off due to Brexit, there are no benefits. Yes - and didnt he get slaughtered for making those numbers up.. One, he referenced the LSE and Larry Summers when quoting the numbers he quoted. So, he didn't make anything up. Two, he received a great applause from QT audience -- at least in the episode I watched. Maybe there's another program in which he was slaughtered, so to speak?
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Post by patman post on Jun 3, 2023 12:41:07 GMT
Yes - and didnt he get slaughtered for making those numbers up.. One, he referenced the LSE and Larry Summers when quoting the numbers he quoted. So, he didn't make anything up. Two, he received a great applause from QT audience -- at least in the episode I watched. Maybe there's another program in which he was slaughtered, so to speak? Current Brexiteers have possibly evolved like sheep.
Sheep close their nostrils when dipped in a liquid formulation of insecticide and fungicide — die-hard Boris Brexit Lovers close their ears when subjected to expressions of support for the growing dissatisfaction with Brexit...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2023 12:43:07 GMT
If we go back in we will get the Romanian and Polish criminals back and more Irish travellers, fine if you live in a gated community and have most things delivered. Come on! You don't have to be xenophobic about it. Are you saying Britain is safe with its native criminals -- drug runners, groomers, mobile phone snatchers, knife wielding teenagers, ad infinitum? Or are you suggesting that crime is acceptable to you as long as it is perpetrated by locals?
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Post by patman post on Jun 3, 2023 12:47:03 GMT
If we go back in we will get the Romanian and Polish criminals back and more Irish travellers, fine if you live in a gated community and have most things delivered. Come on! You don't have to be xenophobic about it. Are you saying Britain is safe with its native criminals -- drug runners, groomers, mobile phone snatchers, knife wielding, ad infinitum? Or are you suggesting that crime is acceptable to you as long as it is perpetrated by locals? All was rosy while the Richardson's and Kray bros kept out the foreign crims like the Mafia and Yardies...
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 3, 2023 12:47:05 GMT
One, he referenced the LSE and Larry Summers when quoting the numbers he quoted. So, he didn't make anything up. Two, he received a great applause from QT audience -- at least in the episode I watched. Maybe there's another program in which he was slaughtered, so to speak? Current Brexiteers have possibly evolved like sheep.
Sheep close their nostrils when dipped in a liquid formulation of insecticide and fungicide — die-hard Boris Brexit Lovers close their ears when subjected to expressions of support for the growing dissatisfaction with Brexit...
Brexit hasn't quite lived up to all the apocalyptic hype remainers had said and hoped it would. Now they're just left sitting around scratching for opinions and misinformation from the disgruntled elite. Brexit's not the cataclysmic event many had hoped for. Ho hum.
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Post by patman post on Jun 3, 2023 12:54:23 GMT
Current Brexiteers have possibly evolved like sheep.
Sheep close their nostrils when dipped in a liquid formulation of insecticide and fungicide — die-hard Boris Brexit Lovers close their ears when subjected to expressions of support for the growing dissatisfaction with Brexit...
Brexit hasn't quite lived up to all the apocalyptic hype remainers had said and hoped it would. Now they're just left sitting around scratching for opinions and misinformation from the disgruntled elite. Brexit's not the cataclysmic event many had hoped for. Ho hum. Yep, everyone is better off, according to The Mail, Sun, Express, etc, everything is going swimmingly for everybody. All we need to do, says the Telegraph, is cut taxes for the very rich...!
PS: But other commentators have different views:
Why the UK economy is worse off than Russia and other EU countries
Three Years On, Brexit Casts a Long Shadow Over the UK Economy
Britain Is Much Worse Off Than It Understands
Brexit has cracked Britain’s economic foundations
UK economy to fare worse than any other country in developed world this year, IMF forecasts
‘We’re All Worse Off’ — Britain is now paying the price for its decision to leave the European Union.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2023 12:59:25 GMT
Current Brexiteers have possibly evolved like sheep.
Sheep close their nostrils when dipped in a liquid formulation of insecticide and fungicide — die-hard Boris Brexit Lovers close their ears when subjected to expressions of support for the growing dissatisfaction with Brexit...
Brexit hasn't quite lived up to all the apocalyptic hype remainers had said and hoped it would. Now they're just left sitting around scratching for opinions and misinformation from the disgruntled elite. Brexit's not the cataclysmic event many had hoped for. Ho hum. Hopefully, you realise that what you're saying is an admission of damage. The only question you leave there is the level of damage. Simply put, what you're saying is that, indeed, there's damage -- it's just not cataclysmic. But what is curious is that even the most passionate Brexit supporters have stopped going back to 2016 and stopped using that not-so-clever, ho hum argument a long time ago. Not you, it seems.
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 3, 2023 13:08:50 GMT
Brexit hasn't quite lived up to all the apocalyptic hype remainers had said and hoped it would. Now they're just left sitting around scratching for opinions and misinformation from the disgruntled elite. Brexit's not the cataclysmic event many had hoped for. Ho hum. Hopefully, you realise that what you're saying is an admission of damage. The only question you leave there is the level of damage. Simply put, what you're saying is that, indeed, there's damage -- it's just not cataclysmic. But what is curious is that even the most passionate Brexit supporters have stopped going back to 2016 and stopped using that not-so-clever, ho hum argument a long time ago. Not you, it seems. No it's not. It's an admission that your remoaning hasn't waned. But the difference in your arguments today is in stark contrast to what you had hoped would happen back in 2016. Take this thread for example: This looks like an industry specific issue regarding exports to both the US and EU. Yet, you blame this on Brexit. lol
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