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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 2, 2023 18:30:39 GMT
Nope, that's for you woker sheep. And you are clearly too stupid to realise that obsessing about whether men claiming to be women can use the ladies' bogs is exactly the sort of shit they all want you to be distracted by whilst they drain this country dry without you noticing. Mr Angry himself lol
We aren't obsessing it's being RAMMED down our throats, we don't give a flying fuck about a bloke with a beard in a dress calling himself a 'her', but we do give a flying fuck when the weirdo freaks try to enter the ladies toilets pretending to be a transgender in order to molest females, including young girls and children.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 2, 2023 18:46:02 GMT
Nope, that's for you woker sheep. And you are clearly too stupid to realise that obsessing about whether men claiming to be women can use the ladies' bogs is exactly the sort of shit they all want you to be distracted by whilst they drain this country dry without you noticing. And since when have I obsessed about that? I fear that you have me confused with someone else.
Although to be honest, I think you're just confused full stop.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2023 20:11:07 GMT
And you are clearly too stupid to realise that obsessing about whether men claiming to be women can use the ladies' bogs is exactly the sort of shit they all want you to be distracted by whilst they drain this country dry without you noticing. Mr Angry himself lol
We aren't obsessing it's being RAMMED down our throats, we don't give a flying fuck about a bloke with a beard in a dress calling himself a 'her', but we do give a flying fuck when the weirdo freaks try to enter the ladies toilets pretending to be a transgender in order to molest females, including young girls and children.
And you call me Mr Angry. Hahaha. Have you even stopped to listen to your own angry ranting about a problem that barely exists? Even your username is a parody of the truth. Mr Unfairsociety would be more apt. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2023 20:12:33 GMT
And you are clearly too stupid to realise that obsessing about whether men claiming to be women can use the ladies' bogs is exactly the sort of shit they all want you to be distracted by whilst they drain this country dry without you noticing. And since when have I obsessed about that? I fear that you have me confused with someone else.
Although to be honest, I think you're just confused full stop.
There are moments when I feel the lack of a bare arse icon to moon at the poster I am quoting. And this is one of them, lol |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 2, 2023 20:38:45 GMT
And since when have I obsessed about that? I fear that you have me confused with someone else.
Although to be honest, I think you're just confused full stop.
There are moments when I feel the lack of a bare arse icon to moon at the poster I am quoting. And this is one of them, lol Because it would serve in lieu of an actual reply? |
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 2, 2023 21:09:59 GMT
Nope, that's for you woker sheep. And you are clearly too stupid to realise that obsessing about whether men claiming to be women can use the ladies' bogs is exactly the sort of shit they all want you to be distracted by whilst they drain this country dry without you noticing. Mansplaining what women should accept? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2023 8:00:52 GMT
And you are clearly too stupid to realise that obsessing about whether men claiming to be women can use the ladies' bogs is exactly the sort of shit they all want you to be distracted by whilst they drain this country dry without you noticing. Mansplaining what women should accept? No, just pointing out how the establishment is using such niche issues to divert us from the myriad more pressing problems of our nation. They want us to be angry about such things on b oth sides of the argument instead of being angry at them. Which is why I rarely play ball. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 3, 2023 11:03:18 GMT
Mansplaining what women should accept? No, just pointing out how the establishment is using such niche issues to divert us from the myriad more pressing problems of our nation. They want us to be angry about such things on b oth sides of the argument instead of being angry at them. Which is why I rarely play ball. Yes but you can always say there are more important issues to worry about than womens rights - following that idea the Suffragettes would never have got off the ground. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 3, 2023 11:23:33 GMT
The Baron reminds me of one of those Victorian doctors whose standard prescription for all his patients is to 'apply leeches' no matter what ails them. In his case though the cure is not leeches but becoming more like China. Clearly insane. And has Britain become stupid? How on earth would you you even go about diagnosing such a condition? The truth of the matter is that Britain has just as many smart people as it ever did but the difference is that they are not now attracted to the sort of career opportunities that the Baron believes they should be, opportunities that are said to abound in China. So why is that? Why do intelligent British young people aspire to the 'professions' - medicine, law, finance and the like - while their Chinese counterparts, per the Baron, opt instead for careers as battery designers or chip manufacturers? It's a valid question. So why when I get something as complicated as a mobile phone from China the instruction book is two sides of A4 and when I buy a British-designed product (a leaf blower designed by Kingfisher PLC) does it come with some 50+ pages of instructions?
I think you are wrong in claiming the level of brains has remained the same. It's an assumption you make where the evidence is not there to support it.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 3, 2023 11:26:05 GMT
I'll give you a real life example of intelligence if you like. This is a variant on how many people does it take to change a lightbulb, but something which really happened in 2023.
Problem: the light fails when you flick the switch. This happened in my kitchen and a friend's bathroom.
3 solutions: low intelligence, medium intelligence and high intelligence.
Solution one: low intelligence
Phone an odd job man to fix it for you. Result: takes ages to arrange an appointment and deal with the general bureaucracy, but after arranging for a bloke to come round (in London) the cost is £90 for the light and about the same for labour. He replaces the unit and charges a large markup on it.
Solution two: medium intelligence
Order the new light off Ebay for about £30 and screw it in yourself. Result £30 cost/ about an hour of messing about ordering and fitting it.
Solution three: high intelligence
rotate the cover to remove see a series of small pcbs with a few leds on driven by a constant current power supply. Measure 100v from the psu, realise it is open circuit, go around shorting out each bank until the light comes on.
Then remove the bad pcb and short the connections.
Result, light works in 5 minutes, now a 30w light is a 28w light and cost nothing to fix.
It would probably take longer to get as far as finding a telephone number to ring for method one.
That's knowledge, not intelligence. They are the same thing. Intelligent people have more knowledge because they can store and organised it better into base concepts. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 3, 2023 11:36:07 GMT
The Baron reminds me of one of those Victorian doctors whose standard prescription for all his patients is to 'apply leeches' no matter what ails them. In his case though the cure is not leeches but becoming more like China. Clearly insane. And has Britain become stupid? How on earth would you you even go about diagnosing such a condition? The truth of the matter is that Britain has just as many smart people as it ever did but the difference is that they are not now attracted to the sort of career opportunities that the Baron believes they should be, opportunities that are said to abound in China. So why is that? Why do intelligent British young people aspire to the 'professions' - medicine, law, finance and the like - while their Chinese counterparts, per the Baron, opt instead for careers as battery designers or chip manufacturers? It's a valid question. I was told years ago that the Germans regard engineers very highly whereas Brits do not . Hence there are more and better engineers in Germany that in the UK. Afaik Asians tend force their children to learn and children learn by rote . Thus there is a more competitive system and more like the UK grammar way of teaching . |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 3, 2023 11:40:17 GMT
I'll give you a real life example of intelligence if you like. This is a variant on how many people does it take to change a lightbulb, but something which really happened in 2023.
Problem: the light fails when you flick the switch. This happened in my kitchen and a friend's bathroom.
3 solutions: low intelligence, medium intelligence and high intelligence.
Solution one: low intelligence
Phone an odd job man to fix it for you. Result: takes ages to arrange an appointment and deal with the general bureaucracy, but after arranging for a bloke to come round (in London) the cost is £90 for the light and about the same for labour. He replaces the unit and charges a large markup on it.
Solution two: medium intelligence
Order the new light off Ebay for about £30 and screw it in yourself. Result £30 cost/ about an hour of messing about ordering and fitting it.
Solution three: high intelligence
rotate the cover to remove see a series of small pcbs with a few leds on driven by a constant current power supply. Measure 100v from the psu, realise it is open circuit, go around shorting out each bank until the light comes on.
Then remove the bad pcb and short the connections.
Result, light works in 5 minutes, now a 30w light is a 28w light and cost nothing to fix.
It would probably take longer to get as far as finding a telephone number to ring for method one.
Your example only covers one field of knowledge. Are you saying that Britain became stupid in this field in particular? Not everyone has the same skill set. If one doesn't have the knowledge to address the problem in your example, paying someone with the knowledge to address it is a costlier solution, but not a less effective one. LED lighting is bloody everywhere. It's common knowledge, like knowing your car needs oil. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 3, 2023 11:46:32 GMT
The Baron reminds me of one of those Victorian doctors whose standard prescription for all his patients is to 'apply leeches' no matter what ails them. In his case though the cure is not leeches but becoming more like China. Clearly insane. And has Britain become stupid? How on earth would you you even go about diagnosing such a condition? The truth of the matter is that Britain has just as many smart people as it ever did but the difference is that they are not now attracted to the sort of career opportunities that the Baron believes they should be, opportunities that are said to abound in China. So why is that? Why do intelligent British young people aspire to the 'professions' - medicine, law, finance and the like - while their Chinese counterparts, per the Baron, opt instead for careers as battery designers or chip manufacturers? It's a valid question. It was the Victorian Age where they applied science to medicine. Before that they used the theory of the four humours from Aristotle. Your mental processes are in effect denouncing the age where they did the right thing. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 3, 2023 11:57:12 GMT
You are born with your intelligence, you don't acquire it. Education (and other environments) can show you how to use that intelligence, but you do not gain more. I'd ask what the opening poster meant by "stupider" and how they went about measuring it. It might be the case that you're born with certain abilities, but the meaning of what it is to be intelligent changes over time. There are people with great mathematical abilities alive today, people who are recognised as very intelligent, who would not have been described as intelligent in the middle ages, when the need for mathematical aptitude simply wasn't there. 'Intelligence' and utility are connected. So, in theory, if the utility of your aptitude increases in your life, you will become more 'intelligent' during your life. As for the OP's question, Why Britain became Stupid?, the answer comes in three words: The Daily Mail. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jun 3, 2023 11:57:17 GMT
That's knowledge, not intelligence. They are the same thing. Intelligent people have more knowledge because they can store and organised it better into base concepts. They aren't really the same thing though, as your second sentence shows. Intelligence is an ability. Knowledge is a product. I could learn all the King's and Queen's dates, that would make me more knowledgeable, but not more intelligent. |
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