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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 3, 2023 14:34:35 GMT
...we should not be living in a country where the Police can stop, search, and question you for no apparent reason... We don't. No it isn't. Stop lying. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jun 3, 2023 14:44:19 GMT
Lied is a tad harsh. Too lazy to look it up first is a more valid accusation. Well, given that your fellow traveller fiddler has lied his way through this thread, one could be forgiven for thinking that lying was the new left wing way.
But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and accept your plea of ignorance.  The plea was indolence not ignorance. Indolence means lazy btw. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 3, 2023 14:50:10 GMT
Well, given that your fellow traveller fiddler has lied his way through this thread, one could be forgiven for thinking that lying was the new left wing way.
But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and accept your plea of ignorance. The plea was indolence not ignorance. Indolence means lazy btw.
And ignorance means not knowing the facts. That your ignorance was due to indolence is irrelevant. Irrelevant means nothing to do with it btw. 
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2023 15:32:49 GMT
The plea was indolence not ignorance. Indolence means lazy btw.
And ignorance means not knowing the facts. That your ignorance was due to indolence is irrelevant. Irrelevant means nothing to do with it btw.
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 3, 2023 17:15:23 GMT
It's an established fact that Black people commit more street crime than any other ethnic group - stop and search is designed to stop street crime so if you dont want blacks targetted who do you want? - Chinese? - Hassidic Jews?
But stopping people with no grounds what so ever simply because they are black is 100% not acceptable We can all remember the resulting riots of the 1980s due to police harassment, do you want to see a re-run of such events again. ? So we should cease all attempts at preventing crime before it happens?. Stop & Search has been proven to reduce street crime - even the Mayor of London has done a 180 on the use of S&S after crime rose when he cut back on it. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 3, 2023 17:28:39 GMT
I remember when Theresa May (twat) ordered the Met to curtail stop & search and the murder rate of young black men went through the roof.
We can't have it both ways: We can't stop black people from killing each other without stopping (and searching) black people.
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Post by jonksy on Jun 3, 2023 17:45:39 GMT
How about targeting people WHO HAVE committed a crime, or target those whom you have reasonable grounds of suspecting have committed a crime.
But stopping people with no grounds what so ever simply because they are black is 100% not acceptable We can all remember the resulting riots of the 1980s due to police harassment, do you want to see a re-run of such events again. ? So we should cease all attempts at preventing crime before it happens?. Stop & Search has been proven to reduce street crime - even the Mayor of London has done a 180 on the use of S&S after crime rose when he cut back on it. Does fiddler know that khan is a lefty woke? He seems to know jack about evrything else. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 3, 2023 17:47:15 GMT
I suspect that the aptly named fiddler would lie even if he did.
Although as you say, fiddler knowing anything seems frankly unlikely.
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Post by jonksy on Jun 3, 2023 22:59:18 GMT
Shit for brains starmer has another vote winner.....LOL.......Why does everything have to be a class war with Labour....How does this encourage anyone on benefits to better their lives if EVERY THING is given to them PAID for by others? Why also would anyone striving to achieve well in the own entrepreneurial world by hard work to keep showing up? Why bother if your in the lowest paid of the middle bracket? No benefits or support, all the taxes. Labour's CLASS WAR on middle Britain: Secret plan by Starmer to hit the well-off by cutting their access to GPs, libraries and bin collections Draft manifesto plans suggest Labour would move resources from wealthy areas Jacob Rees-Mogg slammed it as a declaration of 'class war' on 'middle Britain' Labour was last night accused of declaring 'class war on Middle Britain' over shock plans to slash public services in affluent areas. Party leader Sir Keir Starmer faced claims he was plotting a 'hard-Left attack' on the wealthy by diverting resources from rich areas to poorer postcodes – affecting access to GPs, school places and even bin collections. The radical plans, included among draft proposals for Labour's Election manifesto, would extend equality laws covering race, age, gender, disability and sexuality to include 'the inequality of social class'. It means public bodies could make spending decisions that penalise middle-class areas to divert funds to poorer neighbourhoods. Last night, one former Cabinet Minister accused Sir Keir of 'taking a scythe to success' in what would amount to 'an attack on already hard-pressed rural and suburban areas.' www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12156193/Secret-plan-Starmer-hit-cutting-public-services.html |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 4, 2023 6:44:42 GMT
Shit for brains starmer has another vote winner.....LOL.......Why does everything have to be a class war with Labour....How does this encourage anyone on benefits to better their lives if EVERY THING is given to them PAID for by others? Why also would anyone striving to achieve well in the own entrepreneurial world by hard work to keep showing up? Why bother if your in the lowest paid of the middle bracket? No benefits or support, all the taxes. Labour's CLASS WAR on middle Britain: Secret plan by Starmer to hit the well-off by cutting their access to GPs, libraries and bin collections Draft manifesto plans suggest Labour would move resources from wealthy areas Jacob Rees-Mogg slammed it as a declaration of 'class war' on 'middle Britain' Labour was last night accused of declaring 'class war on Middle Britain' over shock plans to slash public services in affluent areas. Party leader Sir Keir Starmer faced claims he was plotting a 'hard-Left attack' on the wealthy by diverting resources from rich areas to poorer postcodes – affecting access to GPs, school places and even bin collections. The radical plans, included among draft proposals for Labour's Election manifesto, would extend equality laws covering race, age, gender, disability and sexuality to include 'the inequality of social class'. It means public bodies could make spending decisions that penalise middle-class areas to divert funds to poorer neighbourhoods. Last night, one former Cabinet Minister accused Sir Keir of 'taking a scythe to success' in what would amount to 'an attack on already hard-pressed rural and suburban areas.' www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12156193/Secret-plan-Starmer-hit-cutting-public-services.html
Sounds like a plan for Apartheid Britain.
Bring on the ghettoisation.
Honestly, Labour are outing themselves as fascists more and more every day.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2023 10:44:25 GMT
Class War ?
I will tell you what Class War is ... Its when the country has a deficit problem, and the response is to give tax cuts to the rich, and at the same time introduce The Bedroom Tax, which hit mostly working people on low incomes.
THAT'S what class war is
Its taking away a basic payment from low income families designed to encourage teenagers to stay on at school, and at the same time give tax breaks to private schools.
What Keir Starmer MIGHT PROPOSE ( and it is all speculation ), is a bloody good dose of prgressive policies, which will not be based upon class. A Labour government might take money from the "super wealthy" including from mega businesses and multi nationals who have benefitted and reaped in huge profits as a result of both the oil and energy crisis and the inflation crisis.
Good for him - its the right thing to do
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 4, 2023 10:48:25 GMT
Class War ? I will tell you what Class War is ... Its when the country has a deficit problem, and the response is to give tax cuts to the rich, and at the same time introduce The Bedroom Tax, which hit mostly working people on low incomes. THAT'S what class war is Its taking away a basic payment from low income families designed to encourage teenagers to stay on at school, and at the same time give tax breaks to private schools. What Keir Starmer MIGHT PROPOSE ( and it is all speculation ), is a bloody good dose of prgressive policies, which will not be based upon class. A Labour government might take money from the "super wealthy" including from mega businesses and multi nationals who have benefitted and reaped in huge profits as a result of both the oil and energy crisis and the inflation crisis. Good for him - its the right thing to do I doubt you could tell us anything.
Meanwhile, Sadiq Khan wants to tax poor people off the road.
Labour: The enemy of the working class.
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Post by jonksy on Jun 4, 2023 10:53:50 GMT
Class War ? I will tell you what Class War is ... Its when the country has a deficit problem, and the response is to give tax cuts to the rich, and at the same time introduce The Bedroom Tax, which hit mostly working people on low incomes. THAT'S what class war is Its taking away a basic payment from low income families designed to encourage teenagers to stay on at school, and at the same time give tax breaks to private schools. What Keir Starmer MIGHT PROPOSE ( and it is all speculation ), is a bloody good dose of prgressive policies, which will not be based upon class. A Labour government might take money from the "super wealthy" including from mega businesses and multi nationals who have benefitted and reaped in huge profits as a result of both the oil and energy crisis and the inflation crisis. Good for him - its the right thing to do Yes class war fiddler. The labour scum love to attack the usual soft targets whilst feathering their own nests. Does the Blair property portfolio ring any bells? It bloody should do even to the thickest members of our society. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2023 11:02:42 GMT
The London Congestion Charge is a separate issue, but there are many ways to overcome the charges, including buying yourself a car which falls into the exemptions, or use public transport.
The congestion charge is a very, very good thing, it has significantly reduced polution, and it has provided millions of pounds to invest in buses, bus lanes, public transport, paths and cycle lanes and paths for pedestrians.
Its time to start pushing cars off the road and start forcing people to use public transport ... by making buses and trains affordable and convenient, and make car use expensive and inconvenient.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2023 11:05:47 GMT
Class War ? I will tell you what Class War is ... Its when the country has a deficit problem, and the response is to give tax cuts to the rich, and at the same time introduce The Bedroom Tax, which hit mostly working people on low incomes. THAT'S what class war is Its taking away a basic payment from low income families designed to encourage teenagers to stay on at school, and at the same time give tax breaks to private schools. What Keir Starmer MIGHT PROPOSE ( and it is all speculation ), is a bloody good dose of prgressive policies, which will not be based upon class. A Labour government might take money from the "super wealthy" including from mega businesses and multi nationals who have benefitted and reaped in huge profits as a result of both the oil and energy crisis and the inflation crisis. Good for him - its the right thing to do Yes class war fiddler. The labour scum love to attack the usual soft targets whilst feathering their own nests. Does the Blair property portfolio ring any bells? It bloody should do even to the thickest members of our society. Interesting that you believe taxing the super rich is wrong, and that ( according to you ) its a "class war", your certainly voting for the correct party which fits in with your beliefs ... the Tories have always been the party which looks after the wealthy and hammers ordinary people. |
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