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Post by Orac on May 31, 2023 20:55:59 GMT
No cheekiness in mind-zone. Thank you
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2023 21:07:26 GMT
I'm sure ProBoards have an anti-slavery policy somewhere. Nobody is forced to do other people's work.
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Post by zanygame on May 31, 2023 21:10:13 GMT
No cheekiness in mind-zone. Thank you Precisely, lets have proper answers. You said "You want me to do the science for you?" I said yes. So come on give me your explanation for the current increases in temperature.
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Post by zanygame on May 31, 2023 21:11:09 GMT
I'm sure ProBoards have an anti-slavery policy somewhere. Nobody is forced to do other people's work. You offered. But this is the mind zone. If you have nothing to add, don't .
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2023 21:24:21 GMT
Offered what? I merely pointed out that your question was dumb. It only has one answer, which is in itself propaganda that will most likely become a statistic. Basically, the difference between scientific debate and politically motivated propaganda.
I am fully behind the fact that climate changes. I am for a cleaner, less polluted environment. Kill all humans.
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Post by Pacifico on May 31, 2023 21:42:09 GMT
We are not going to get more - just replace the dwindling supply from existing fields. Your policy commits us to being dependent on erratic supplies from foreign governments at very high cost. Wind energy is cheaper than gas and has been since before Russia shoved the cost up. I wont bother to talk to you about the cost of climate change. If it were cheaper than gas it would not need subsidising - give your head a wobble..
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Post by zanygame on May 31, 2023 21:42:57 GMT
Offered what? I merely pointed out that your question was dumb. It only has one answer, which is in itself propaganda that will most likely become a statistic. Basically, the difference between scientific debate and politically motivated propaganda. I am fully behind the fact that climate changes. I am for a cleaner, less polluted environment. Kill all humans. Sorry the mind zone is not for these games. You offered to explain the science for me. The reason our climate is warming. If you don't think its warming then what science were you offering. This is the only tiny part of the forum that does not allow the stupid games the children enjoy across the whole of the rest of the forum. And I see that as that space empties because no one wants to play fool for your crap, you are now invading this space.
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Post by zanygame on May 31, 2023 21:44:33 GMT
Wind energy is cheaper than gas and has been since before Russia shoved the cost up. I wont bother to talk to you about the cost of climate change. If it were cheaper than gas it would not need subsidising - give your head a wobble.. It needed subsidising until it developed. It doesn't need subsidising now. Now its subsidising your gas generation.
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Post by Pacifico on May 31, 2023 22:04:50 GMT
If it were cheaper than gas it would not need subsidising - give your head a wobble.. It needed subsidising until it developed. It doesn't need subsidising now. Now its subsidising your gas generation. Dont talk rot. The renewable industry are already complaining that the level of subsidy is too low..
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2023 22:07:25 GMT
Offered what? I merely pointed out that your question was dumb. It only has one answer, which is in itself propaganda that will most likely become a statistic. Basically, the difference between scientific debate and politically motivated propaganda. I am fully behind the fact that climate changes. I am for a cleaner, less polluted environment. Kill all humans. Sorry the mind zone is not for these games. You offered to explain the science for me. The reason our climate is warming. If you don't think its warming then what science were you offering. This is the only tiny part of the forum that does not allow the stupid games the children enjoy across the whole of the rest of the forum. And I see that as that space empties because no one wants to play fool for your crap, you are now invading this space. That's odd, I neither confirmed nor denied temperature discrepancies, let alone offer to explain a scientific field to you. If you cannot see the problem I've highlighted then I think you'll just end up struggling with your emotions, which leads you away from logic.
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Post by zanygame on Jun 1, 2023 6:35:39 GMT
It needed subsidising until it developed. It doesn't need subsidising now. Now its subsidising your gas generation. Dont talk rot. The renewable industry are already complaining that the level of subsidy is too low.. This is so ironic. The reason for the higher building costs of new turbines is the cost of energy needed to make steel because of our reliance on gas. www.imperial.ac.uk/news/200353/offshore-wind-power-cheap-could-money/Meanwhile existing wind farms (And that's the future.) Renewable energy projects, including onshore and offshore wind and solar farms, have so far been subsidised by government support schemes. This has led to some to complain that clean energy is pushing up bills. However, the most recently approved offshore wind projects will most likely operate with ‘negative subsidies’ – paying money back to the government.
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 1, 2023 6:47:24 GMT
Thats a forecast from 3 years ago - I'm talking about what happens today when the amount of subsidy is reduced..
Ana Musat, executive director of policy and engagement at Renewable UK, criticised the government’s £205m funding pledge for the latest CfD round– deeming it too low to ease pressure on energy firms.
She argued that if the cost of renewable energy generation kept rising, without government support this would make projects more expensive – jeopardising the UK’s push to reach its net zero and energy security goals.
There was also the prospect of fewer bids, with underwhelming auction rounds in Europe – including no winning bids in Spain’s allocation window last November.
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 1, 2023 6:48:59 GMT
At the moment the renewables industry needs subsidizing by taxpayers money - compared with the North Sea oil and gas industry which pays taxes of 75%.
Have a guess at which one is cheaper.
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Post by zanygame on Jun 1, 2023 7:03:56 GMT
Thats a forecast from 3 years ago - I'm talking about what happens today when the amount of subsidy is reduced.. Ana Musat, executive director of policy and engagement at Renewable UK, criticised the government’s £205m funding pledge for the latest CfD round– deeming it too low to ease pressure on energy firms.
She argued that if the cost of renewable energy generation kept rising, without government support this would make projects more expensive – jeopardising the UK’s push to reach its net zero and energy security goals.
There was also the prospect of fewer bids, with underwhelming auction rounds in Europe – including no winning bids in Spain’s allocation window last November.Have you any idea how small £205m is? We spend £18.8Bn pounds a year on electricity. So your talking about 1% added to your bill towards net zero. And as my post stated (were it not for the cost of steel that would be the case. I find it absurd to accept gas prices are 6 times higher because of the war and that's Ok, but pretend that has no effect on building wind farms. Still I'm grateful for you pointing out the cost of net zero.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 1, 2023 12:35:27 GMT
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