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Post by zanygame on Jun 25, 2023 8:53:18 GMT
If you believe that man made global warming is a reality, why are you arguing like someone who doesnt believe in it, calling those who do cultists? I tell you what. You stop idiotically calling me a cultist for believing in what you yourself are claiming to believe in and I will stop calling you a denialist. How did you vote in Zany's poll by the way? Because you dont sound like someone who believes in AGW. People who believe in AGW tend not to regard everyone else who believes in it as cultists. You are not convincing me. Then stop acting like a cultist . My point was about the campaign and it’s main flaw . I never addressed the reality of AGW until you and the other poster called me denialist . You still can’t help yourself by calling me a denialist again , even after I have told you otherwise. It’s a classic cultist reaction . As soon as I questioned Thunberg heading the campaign two of its followers went into knee jerk false claims and strawmen mode. The campaign for net zero should be headed by an eminent scientist who can proffer a compelling argument based on the catastrophic results of climate change not an unqualified teenager. How you two think that equates to being a denialist can only be explained as having a cultist mentality. Been asked twice now. How did you vote in the poll. Are you ashamed to say? |
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Post by zanygame on Jun 25, 2023 8:55:14 GMT
And I suppose that in your warped logic that is supposed to prove that all the climate scientists are wrong is it?Utterly laughable. Sometimes there really is no fool like an old fool. It's to show that large numbers of scientists can be misguided. I think your second sentence is something the mods may show an interest in. Still waiting to see your list of climatologists who say climate change is not man made. |
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Post by thomas on Jun 25, 2023 9:31:55 GMT
Thought this was an interesting article.
Sweden Dumps Climate Agenda, Scraps Green Energy Targets
Sweden has just dealt a severe blow to the globalist climate agenda by scraping its green energy targets.
In a statement announcing the new policy in the Swedish Parliament, Finance Minister Elisabeth Svantesson warned that the Scandinavian nation needs “a stable energy system.”
Svantesson asserted that wind and solar power are too “unstable” to meet the nation’s energy requirements.
Instead, the Swedish Government is shifting back to nuclear power and has ditched its targets for a “100% renewable energy” supply.
The move is a major blow to unreliable and inefficient technology.
I wonder how many more countires are going to follow as the world economy implodes ?
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Post by thomas on Jun 25, 2023 9:34:28 GMT
Oh dear.
Rishi Sunak to Hit Households With £170 Net Zero Levy Within Days
households will pay a £170-a-year Net Zero levy on energy bills in the coming days, with Rishi Sunak and Jeremy Hunt accused of “slyly” shifting costs back to consumers. The Telegraph has the story.
The Telegraph has learned that the two-year suspension of green levies announced last autumn is to end from the beginning of July, after just nine months.
The cost of the levies was shifted from consumer bills to be funded instead by the Government, following a year-long campaign by energy firms and MPs amid spiralling gas, electricity and food prices last year.
It will again be imposed on consumers, although there has been no formal announcement. Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg, who was Business and Energy Secretary when the costs were taken away from consumers last year, said: “Green levies are part of the problem behind the U.K.’s particularly high electricity prices. They ought to be abolished but should fall on general taxation until that can happen. The ambition for Net Zero must not make us cold and poor. Any new or re-imposed charge ought to be announced to Parliament first and not slipped through slyly.”
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Post by zanygame on Jun 25, 2023 9:40:52 GMT
Thought this was an interesting article.
Sweden Dumps Climate Agenda, Scraps Green Energy Targets
Sweden has just dealt a severe blow to the globalist climate agenda by scraping its green energy targets.
In a statement announcing the new policy in the Swedish Parliament, Finance Minister Elisabeth Svantesson warned that the Scandinavian nation needs “a stable energy system.”
Svantesson asserted that wind and solar power are too “unstable” to meet the nation’s energy requirements.
Instead, the Swedish Government is shifting back to nuclear power and has ditched its targets for a “100% renewable energy” supply.
The move is a major blow to unreliable and inefficient technology.
I wonder how many more countries are going to follow as the world economy implodes ?
Nuclear is green energy. And last year the UK exported £1.5Bn of energy and its growing annually. Incidentally this would be good news for an independent Scotland that now produces 50% of the UK's renewable energy. |
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Post by thomas on Jun 25, 2023 9:45:26 GMT
Thought this was an interesting article.
Sweden Dumps Climate Agenda, Scraps Green Energy Targets
Sweden has just dealt a severe blow to the globalist climate agenda by scraping its green energy targets.
In a statement announcing the new policy in the Swedish Parliament, Finance Minister Elisabeth Svantesson warned that the Scandinavian nation needs “a stable energy system.”
Svantesson asserted that wind and solar power are too “unstable” to meet the nation’s energy requirements.
Instead, the Swedish Government is shifting back to nuclear power and has ditched its targets for a “100% renewable energy” supply.
The move is a major blow to unreliable and inefficient technology.
I wonder how many more countires are going to follow as the world economy implodes ?
Nuclear is green energy. The point is the article says sweden has dumped its 100 % renewable energy targets. Supporters of 100 % renewable energy dont conisder nuclear as either renewable or sustainable.
As i said earleir , be interesting to see how sustainable the push for 100 % renewable energy is as the world economy implodes further. is the first cracks in what appeared to be western consensus appearing with swedens backtrack?
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Post by zanygame on Jun 25, 2023 9:46:09 GMT
Oh dear.
Rishi Sunak to Hit Households With £170 Net Zero Levy Within Days
households will pay a £170-a-year Net Zero levy on energy bills in the coming days, with Rishi Sunak and Jeremy Hunt accused of “slyly” shifting costs back to consumers. The Telegraph has the story.
The Telegraph has learned that the two-year suspension of green levies announced last autumn is to end from the beginning of July, after just nine months.
The cost of the levies was shifted from consumer bills to be funded instead by the Government, following a year-long campaign by energy firms and MPs amid spiralling gas, electricity and food prices last year.
It will again be imposed on consumers, although there has been no formal announcement. Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg, who was Business and Energy Secretary when the costs were taken away from consumers last year, said: “Green levies are part of the problem behind the U.K.’s particularly high electricity prices. They ought to be abolished but should fall on general taxation until that can happen. The ambition for Net Zero must not make us cold and poor. Any new or re-imposed charge ought to be announced to Parliament first and not slipped through slyly.”
£14 a month. |
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Post by thomas on Jun 25, 2023 9:47:02 GMT
Thought this was an interesting article.
Sweden Dumps Climate Agenda, Scraps Green Energy Targets
Sweden has just dealt a severe blow to the globalist climate agenda by scraping its green energy targets.
In a statement announcing the new policy in the Swedish Parliament, Finance Minister Elisabeth Svantesson warned that the Scandinavian nation needs “a stable energy system.”
Svantesson asserted that wind and solar power are too “unstable” to meet the nation’s energy requirements.
Instead, the Swedish Government is shifting back to nuclear power and has ditched its targets for a “100% renewable energy” supply.
The move is a major blow to unreliable and inefficient technology.
I wonder how many more countries are going to follow as the world economy implodes ?
Incidentally this would be good news for an independent Scotland that now produces 50% of the UK's renewable energy. perhaps thats a subject for the scottish threads , but its an extreme sore point among most scots. |
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Post by Toreador on Jun 25, 2023 9:48:27 GMT
Then stop acting like a cultist . My point was about the campaign and it’s main flaw . I never addressed the reality of AGW until you and the other poster called me denialist . You still can’t help yourself by calling me a denialist again , even after I have told you otherwise. It’s a classic cultist reaction . As soon as I questioned Thunberg heading the campaign two of its followers went into knee jerk false claims and strawmen mode. The campaign for net zero should be headed by an eminent scientist who can proffer a compelling argument based on the catastrophic results of climate change not an unqualified teenager. How you two think that equates to being a denialist can only be explained as having a cultist mentality. Been asked twice now. How did you vote in the poll. Are you ashamed to say? Why do yopu continue to ask the same question, the poll was anonymous. |
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Post by thomas on Jun 25, 2023 9:49:38 GMT
Oh dear.
Rishi Sunak to Hit Households With £170 Net Zero Levy Within Days
households will pay a £170-a-year Net Zero levy on energy bills in the coming days, with Rishi Sunak and Jeremy Hunt accused of “slyly” shifting costs back to consumers. The Telegraph has the story.
The Telegraph has learned that the two-year suspension of green levies announced last autumn is to end from the beginning of July, after just nine months.
The cost of the levies was shifted from consumer bills to be funded instead by the Government, following a year-long campaign by energy firms and MPs amid spiralling gas, electricity and food prices last year.
It will again be imposed on consumers, although there has been no formal announcement. Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg, who was Business and Energy Secretary when the costs were taken away from consumers last year, said: “Green levies are part of the problem behind the U.K.’s particularly high electricity prices. They ought to be abolished but should fall on general taxation until that can happen. The ambition for Net Zero must not make us cold and poor. Any new or re-imposed charge ought to be announced to Parliament first and not slipped through slyly.”
£14 a month. £14 a month too much , coupled with energy prices which have in my personal situation tripled in price over the last two years ( per month) , and for many prospective mortgage rates rises again in some anecdotal cases ( for example wifes best friend) mortgage has went up £300 a month this year alone , on top of everything else like food , saying its only an extra £14 a month is fucking laughable.
You have hard sell there zany.
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Post by sheepy on Jun 25, 2023 9:55:45 GMT
Thought this was an interesting article.
Sweden Dumps Climate Agenda, Scraps Green Energy Targets
Sweden has just dealt a severe blow to the globalist climate agenda by scraping its green energy targets.
In a statement announcing the new policy in the Swedish Parliament, Finance Minister Elisabeth Svantesson warned that the Scandinavian nation needs “a stable energy system.”
Svantesson asserted that wind and solar power are too “unstable” to meet the nation’s energy requirements.
Instead, the Swedish Government is shifting back to nuclear power and has ditched its targets for a “100% renewable energy” supply.
The move is a major blow to unreliable and inefficient technology.
I wonder how many more countries are going to follow as the world economy implodes ?
Nuclear is green energy. And last year the UK exported £1.5Bn of energy and its growing annually. Incidentally this would be good news for an independent Scotland that now produces 50% of the UK's renewable energy. Which you have been offered as a realistic alternative for over two years, the Swedes are only coming to their senses over several things as it happens. |
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Post by thomas on Jun 25, 2023 10:00:13 GMT
Nuclear is green energy. And last year the UK exported £1.5Bn of energy and its growing annually. Incidentally this would be good news for an independent Scotland that now produces 50% of the UK's renewable energy. Which you have been offered as a realistic alternative for over two years, the Swedes are only coming to their senses over several things as it happens. like i said sheepy as economies in the western world continue to struggle , will be interesting watching how far they can push this and how much of a common western consensus they can maintain.
Families are at breaking point as we know this very minute. On local facebook pages , general social media and talking to people family and friends we can see how folk are struggling badly. Zanys £14 a month might very well be the straw that breaks the camels back.
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Post by Toreador on Jun 25, 2023 10:03:02 GMT
It's to show that large numbers of scientists can be misguided. I think your second sentence is something the mods may show an interest in. Still waiting to see your list of climatologists who say climate change is not man made. I'm not obliged to display a list but it isn't impossible that many of the scientists you adore are descendants of those who bought the Piltdown Man Hoax.  |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 25, 2023 10:56:53 GMT
Even after pages of posts you still deliberately make false claims . Then you post this nonsense about accepting me in good faith. As someone who whines about trolling ( even a little diatribe and discussion on a thread dedicated to it ) you seem to embrace it . Stop lying in a mind zone thread . How on earth is this trolling? Please feel free to report me. I notice you didn't say how you voted in the poll. Is that why you raised this faux anger, to avoid that? You need to google’ trolling ‘ . The only excuse you have is lack of self awareness . Voting in your poll is not the entry price of commenting on your thread . The fact that your and the other poster wants to use it as a negative indicator of some kind supports my second sentence . Your poll doesn’t reflect my posts , it’s reflects it’s unimportance . |
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Post by see2 on Jun 25, 2023 11:25:03 GMT
Thought this was an interesting article.
Sweden Dumps Climate Agenda, Scraps Green Energy Targets
Sweden has just dealt a severe blow to the globalist climate agenda by scraping its green energy targets.
In a statement announcing the new policy in the Swedish Parliament, Finance Minister Elisabeth Svantesson warned that the Scandinavian nation needs “a stable energy system.”
Svantesson asserted that wind and solar power are too “unstable” to meet the nation’s energy requirements.
Instead, the Swedish Government is shifting back to nuclear power and has ditched its targets for a “100% renewable energy” supply.
The move is a major blow to unreliable and inefficient technology.
I wonder how many more countires are going to follow as the world economy implodes ?
__“We need more electricity production, we need clean electricity and we need a stable energy system.”__ So they haven't dumped Green Energy, they have just allowed themselves a longer period in which to achieve it. |
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