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Post by see2 on Jun 3, 2023 7:19:47 GMT
You could not have picked a better photo example of Righties with big mouths and small brains. Only low intelligent foolish people would follow that mob. Matbe you would like a few examples of you raving lefties who were ranting on because they lost....And according to your usual bollocks you voted LEAVE and have no political preferences C". Your bullshit proceeds you like all lefty rabid remnants. I bet evryone in the above pic could define a woman and correctly deny that woman have peckers. Yep you stopped thinking when you implied that only those on the left voted to remain, are you really that dense? I am very aware of a number of people I know, who are on the left of politics who voted Leave. The photo you posted should have been enough to make you think twice about your posts, it obviously didn't thus exposing your extreme bias. I have strong political preferences Centre-Left to Centre-Right. Why would any intelligent individual want to join the more politically extremist damagers and dividers out there? |
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Post by see2 on Jun 3, 2023 7:22:30 GMT
That's an opinion, lets see the evidence  I was attacking the poster that furnished the evidence. Even if true I don't see anyone backing up any big mouthed small brained people who may have voted Remain. Then of course we have a never ending hiding by many Outers who refuse to acknowledge the cock-up of leave as experienced so far, always seeking to put the blame on others. Much of the blame falls fairly on the anti-Brexit brigade who ever tried to thwart the result, starting with Gina Miller. Now tell us about how a Bill was rushed through Parliament to extend registration for the yoofs. The blame falls upon the people with the actual power and authority. No more excuses please. |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 3, 2023 7:31:16 GMT
How about the shite we leavers had to endure after the Brexit vote? Just because the usual numpties didn't get their way? The usual lefty remnants don't mind dolling out the insults and jibes. Now the situation is in reverse they don't like it. Well sod em we have had years of their childish antics. Perhaps if you targeted them rather than lumping us all in together you might have a point. And for the record I did not report your avatar, I made my feelings on it openly in plain sight along with the threat I felt it made to the forum. You may well dispute current attitudes towards things like this, but I would ask you to consider not me, but your friends on this forum who might lose it if you push too hard in your cause. I don't have to lump them altogether they do that for themselves. |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 3, 2023 7:33:16 GMT
Much of the blame falls fairly on the anti-Brexit brigade who ever tried to thwart the result, starting with Gina Miller. Now tell us about how a Bill was rushed through Parliament to extend registration for the yoofs. The blame falls upon the people with the actual power and authority. No more excuses please. Oh good to see you accept that those who have all the power are the loony left woke C2. There maybe hope for you yet. |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 3, 2023 7:34:26 GMT
Matbe you would like a few examples of you raving lefties who were ranting on because they lost....And according to your usual bollocks you voted LEAVE and have no political preferences C". Your bullshit proceeds you like all lefty rabid remnants. I bet evryone in the above pic could define a woman and correctly deny that woman have peckers. Yep you stopped thinking when you implied that only those on the left voted to remain, are you really that dense? I am very aware of a number of people I know, who are on the left of politics who voted Leave. The photo you posted should have been enough to make you think twice about your posts, it obviously didn't thus exposing your extreme bias. I have strong political preferences Centre-Left to Centre-Right. Why would any intelligent individual want to join the more politically extremist damagers and dividers out there? You are full of it C2 you bring the lefty remnant stench with you. |
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Post by zanygame on Jun 3, 2023 7:43:43 GMT
Perhaps if you targeted them rather than lumping us all in together you might have a point. And for the record I did not report your avatar, I made my feelings on it openly in plain sight along with the threat I felt it made to the forum. You may well dispute current attitudes towards things like this, but I would ask you to consider not me, but your friends on this forum who might lose it if you push too hard in your cause. I don't have to lump them altogether they do that for themselves. No they don't. Many like me feel woke has gone too far, without thinking we have to go all the way back the other direction. I hope you will give consideration to the rest of my post and consider your friends even if you wont your enemies. |
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Post by see2 on Jun 3, 2023 7:48:50 GMT
You have your answer in Thatcher, dishonest propaganda CAN win the day as it did in order to keep her in office for 11 years. I suggest dishonest propaganda is what created a win for the Outers. Pluss the easily led like the angry Outer who couldn't think of any reason to vote leave other than some rambling derogative remark about 'bent bananas'. Your desperation is showing. Older people were accused of being the mainstay of Leavers, people who had long before made their minds up, nothing to do with last minute decisions, just a vision of the EEC/EU direction of travel; nice to see other members are becoming disaffected. There should have been a grown referendum where people could and would have been better informed, and could have voted from a well informed position. Propaganda won the day. IMO two pieces of information and clear rubbishing of lies like "Th EU is run by unelected people" i.e. the Commission. Two points that should have been made clear were. The undeniable truths of the underlying weaknesses of the UK as in our economy, our reliability on EU Financial Services, OUR productive capabilities, our apprenticeship short comings, our underfunded education, the underfunded NHS, all the short comings being a result of the UK's long term inability to do better. A change of mindset was needed to get the country moving before a chancy Referendum was even thought of. Then there was the Irish border problem, the fishing problem and the actual problems of parting from the EU to be considered. |
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Post by see2 on Jun 3, 2023 7:51:23 GMT
The blame falls upon the people with the actual power and authority. No more excuses please. Oh good to see you accept that those who have all the power are the loony left woke C2. There maybe hope for you yet. No, I live in the real world, you live in your own imagined world that possibly makes sense to you, but not to rational people like myself. |
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Post by see2 on Jun 3, 2023 7:56:44 GMT
Yep you stopped thinking when you implied that only those on the left voted to remain, are you really that dense? I am very aware of a number of people I know, who are on the left of politics who voted Leave. The photo you posted should have been enough to make you think twice about your posts, it obviously didn't thus exposing your extreme bias. I have strong political preferences Centre-Left to Centre-Right. Why would any intelligent individual want to join the more politically extremist damagers and dividers out there? You are full of it C2 you bring the lefty remnant stench with you. You are just a silly man, your need to insult and to denigrate exposes your childish Rightist mentality. You would have fitted in with no trouble with those big mouthed small brained fools in the photo you provided. |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 3, 2023 7:57:09 GMT
I don't have to lump them altogether they do that for themselves. No they don't. Many like me feel woke has gone too far, without thinking we have to go all the way back the other direction. I hope you will give consideration to the rest of my post and consider your friends even if you wont your enemies. I couldn't care less who reported my avatar. I was going to remove it anyway after it had achieved my goal which it did. You were the first one to bitch about it tho. You want to see the ones I have lined up for the future. Just a warning because the usuals will need their therapists lol. |
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Post by sandypine on Jun 3, 2023 8:02:06 GMT
How about the shite we leavers had to endure after the Brexit vote? Just because the usual numpties didn't get their way? The usual lefty remnants don't mind dolling out the insults and jibes. Now the situation is in reverse they don't like it. Well sod em we have had years of their childish antics. You mean the genuine concerns that people had over the both the way the referendum was run and the dishonesty that won the referendum. The childish denials of reality by Outers like yourself continues to this day. I am not sure dishonesty won the referendum, it may have contributed but then dishonesty in politics is not one for explores to discover it resides on the surface day by day. The campaign was lost by Remain as opposed to won by Leave. There was no clear picture of how life would be 'in' there was just continue belittling of sunny uplands and unicorns and that campaign continues to this day, well funded and daily disseminated to the masses through the mainly sympathetic MSN. |
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Post by zanygame on Jun 3, 2023 8:57:51 GMT
No they don't. Many like me feel woke has gone too far, without thinking we have to go all the way back the other direction. I hope you will give consideration to the rest of my post and consider your friends even if you wont your enemies. I couldn't care less who reported my avatar. I was going to remove it anyway after it had achieved my goal which it did. You were the first one to bitch about it tho. You want to see the ones I have lined up for the future. Just a warning because the usuals will need their therapists lol. Jolly good show. I look forward to you reaching for ever greater extremes to goad people and your eventual disappearance. My bitching as you describe it was for the continuation of the forum, I believe the tolerant moderation invites foul mouth empty headed morons like you to think they can say whatever dark thoughts creep around their heads. That you have no natural upper limit for your vitriol and must either be stopped by those mods or by the site owners. That is what happened to the last site. Personally I care not for your opinions as I do not value them, they are clearly ill thought through and you seem to think insults count as arguments. You are IMO a sad little angry man who has been left behind by society. |
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Post by zanygame on Jun 3, 2023 9:05:46 GMT
You mean the genuine concerns that people had over the both the way the referendum was run and the dishonesty that won the referendum. The childish denials of reality by Outers like yourself continues to this day. I am not sure dishonesty won the referendum, it may have contributed but then dishonesty in politics is not one for explores to discover it resides on the surface day by day. The campaign was lost by Remain as opposed to won by Leave. There was no clear picture of how life would be 'in' there was just continue belittling of sunny uplands and unicorns and that campaign continues to this day, well funded and daily disseminated to the masses through the mainly sympathetic MSN. I definitely think the referendum was lost by remain who focused entirely on countering the claims made in the leave campaign and came across as fearful rather than positive. I also think most folks took it as given that remain would win and therefore didn't make the effort to vote. But we are out now and have been for some time. We have seen the promises fail one by one, the trade deals, the European car companies driving the commission to kowtow to us. The ease of transfer, the ignoring of the effects on the GFA. All these things and more have not come to pass, whether that's spite from the EU or not is academic in the sense that it has still happened. And its hard to blame America's unwillingness to give the UK a trade deal on the EU. The polls grow steadily year on year in favour of re-joining and eventually it will be seen as a vote winner rather than to contentious. Until then, we stumble along blaming everyone but ourselves. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 3, 2023 9:17:13 GMT
I am not sure dishonesty won the referendum, it may have contributed but then dishonesty in politics is not one for explores to discover it resides on the surface day by day. The campaign was lost by Remain as opposed to won by Leave. There was no clear picture of how life would be 'in' there was just continue belittling of sunny uplands and unicorns and that campaign continues to this day, well funded and daily disseminated to the masses through the mainly sympathetic MSN. I definitely think the referendum was lost by remain who focused entirely on countering the claims made in the leave campaign and came across as fearful rather than positive. I also think most folks took it as given that remain would win and therefore didn't make the effort to vote. But we are out now and have been for some time. We have seen the promises fail one by one, the trade deals, the European car companies driving the commission to kowtow to us. The ease of transfer, the ignoring of the effects on the GFA. All these things and more have not come to pass, whether that's spite from the EU or not is academic in the sense that it has still happened. And its hard to blame America's unwillingness to give the UK a trade deal on the EU. The polls grow steadily year on year in favour of re-joining and eventually it will be seen as a vote winner rather than to contentious. Until then, we stumble along blaming everyone but ourselves. The remain campaign lied, Osbourne said if it was a vote to leave we would go into instant recession
"Brexit could plunge Britain into an instant recession, the Prime Minister and the Chancellor have said in the starkest economic warning yet of the consequences of Britain leaving the European Union.
According to a new analysis by the Treasury the recession – defined as at least two consecutive quarters of negative growth – would last for a year and leave the level of UK GDP 3.6 per cent lower in two years' time than otherwise if Britons vote to leave the 28-member bloc on 23 June".
Lies, lies and more lies ^^
No such thing happened, and they were gutted, and the likes of these remainers have done their damnedest to sabotage progress.
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Post by Bentley on Jun 3, 2023 9:41:27 GMT
Now we are out of the EU we can assess our position objectively over the next few years and find the best way to rub along with the EU .
If that means closer ties then so be it .
We could never be in that enviable position if we were still in the EU.
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I was attacking the poster that furnished the evidence.
