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Post by oracle75 on May 31, 2023 21:47:41 GMT
Now because of Brexit and the subsequent lack of teachers we the taxpayers have to pay MORE to get back what we had for far less. we had a shortage of teachers before brexit - EU Membership was not working There is no such thing as a shortage of teachers as there is no such thing as a shortage of nurses. Pre Brexit the state supplied just enough without offering bribes.Free. As in Freedom of movement. Now it is offering tens of millions to replace what Brexit caused. It is like a pawn shop. You have to buy back what you originally had. Benefit?
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Post by Pacifico on May 31, 2023 21:50:36 GMT
we had a shortage of teachers before brexit - EU Membership was not working There is no such thing as a shortage of teachers as there is no such thing as a shortage of nurses. Pre Brexit the state supplied just enough without offering bribes.Free. As in Freedom of movement. Now it is offering tens of millions to replace what Brexit caused. It is like a pawn shop. You have to buy back what you originally had. Benefit? OK - if you say so...
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 1, 2023 7:38:45 GMT
I've never seen such dishonesty from a bunch of people who'd prefer to be co-governed from abroad.
I can't think of any other group of people on the entire planet who'd stoop so low.
At least make an honest argument for once in your sorry bitter lives.
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Post by oracle75 on Jun 1, 2023 8:15:40 GMT
Hey Goldfish Hhave you lost your way in that bowl?
The EU had NO POWERS to interfere with national education policy. IOW no one is "ruled" by the EU in this and many other issues.
Why dont you take some time out and ressearch what areas the EU can and cannot legislate on. Then you might be able to discuss the issues correctly and in honesty.
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 1, 2023 8:37:58 GMT
Hey Goldfish Hhave you lost your way in that bowl? The EU had NO POWERS to interfere with national education policy. IOW no one is "ruled" by the EU in this and many other issues. Why dont you take some time out and ressearch what areas the EU can and cannot legislate on. Then you might be able to discuss the issues correctly and in honesty. Pacifico has already 'schooled' you dim that teaching numbers were low prior Brexit. But being the idiot of disinformation you are you equate that with Brexit as the root cause. It's clear to see what you failed to learn at school wasn't the teacher's fault.
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Post by oracle75 on Jun 1, 2023 9:03:57 GMT
Dont change the subject. One repeated promise by Brexiteers was the simplistic theory that if you reduce supply of personnel, the remaining population will enjoy higher wages due to demand. No one said "exccept teachers or doctors or nurses".
Just another deception spread like a virus and any "what if" fell on deaf ears and elicited popular jibes including saying the more cautious were spreading fear and calling judges "traitors".
I guess the issues were just too conplex for a goldfish to understand.
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Post by oracle75 on Jun 1, 2023 9:04:10 GMT
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Post by Bentley on Jun 1, 2023 9:12:26 GMT
Dont change the subject. One repeated promise by Brexiteers was the simplistic theory that if you reduce supply of personnel, the remaining population will enjoy higher wages due to demand. No one said "exccept teachers or doctors or nurses". Just another deception spread like a virus and any "what if" fell on deaf ears and elicited popular jibes including saying the more cautious were spreading fear and calling judges "traitors". I guess the issues were just too conplex for a goldfish to understand. Can you post some evidence that part of the leave campaign was a ‘ simplistic’promise of higher wages because of a reduction of ‘ personnel’?
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 1, 2023 9:53:18 GMT
Dont change the subject.One repeated promise by Brexiteers was the simplistic theory that if you reduce supply of personnel, the remaining population will enjoy higher wages due to demand. No one said "exccept teachers or doctors or nurses". Just another deception spread like a virus and any "what if" fell on deaf ears and elicited popular jibes including saying the more cautious were spreading fear and calling judges "traitors". I guess the issues were just too conplex for a goldfish to understand. You brought the subject up. Now you don't want to talk about the subject because you've yet again been outed by Pacifico as a bullshitter Kim.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 1, 2023 17:33:16 GMT
Perhaps Coracle Kim could come over as a teacher and give us all the benefit of her educational expertise. What was her subject again? Was it maths, opps no. English... Don't think so. Geography? Oh yes - anyone remember that thread? What did she say? Belgium is to the West of France and Spain is to the South East? Funniest thread ever!
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 1, 2023 19:51:30 GMT
Perhaps Coracle Kim could come over as a teacher and give us all the benefit of her educational expertise. What was her subject again? Was it maths, opps no. English... Don't think so. Geography? Oh yes - anyone remember that thread? What did she say? Belgium is to the West of France and Spain is to the South East? Funniest thread ever! Lol The ceiling is too high for her to be a teacher. I think she should aim for dinner lady.
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Post by oracle75 on Jun 1, 2023 21:34:07 GMT
When you have nothing left to say other than personal remarks, it is clear you have nothing left to give to the subject and are reduced to trolling. Unsurprisingly it always comes down to the same few people who clearly suffer from personality disorders.
Take another tour of your bowl, Goldfish, and dont bump into your mate on the way around.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 1, 2023 22:42:24 GMT
When you have nothing left to say other than personal remarks, it is clear you have nothing left to give to the subject and are reduced to trolling. Unsurprisingly it always comes down to the same few people who clearly suffer from personality disorders. Take another tour of your bowl, Goldfish, and dont bump into your mate on the way around. We'll try not to, just remind us where Belgium was again?
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 2, 2023 7:04:01 GMT
When you have nothing left to say other than personal remarks, it is clear you have nothing left to give to the subject and are reduced to trolling. Unsurprisingly it always comes down to the same few people who clearly suffer from personality disorders. Take another tour of your bowl, Goldfish, and dont bump into your mate on the way around. You wanted the subject changed dim when Pacifico placed your misinformation/lies on public display. I see you've dropped out of that point with your tail between your legs.
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Post by patman post on Jun 3, 2023 18:15:29 GMT
It seems to me that instead of the constantly promised reduction of free available imported labour due to squeezing the supply of labour promised by brexiteers, the UK now has to pay people from the other side of the world with god knows what qualifications to come and teach British children And at the same time deny British teachers a pay rise. Would it not be more "brexit" to pay UK Pstudents 10,000 pounds each to help them pay for uni and post grad teacher training??? Whatever happened to "training our own"? One of the great mantras of Brexit sovereignty?? Or was it another Brexit bullshitlie? I'm struggling to see what you are complaining about. Teachers from the EU never had to leave in the first place and any that want to come now are automatically allowed entry. So as effectively there is absolutely no difference between when we were in the EU and now that we are not, what exactly is your complaint?. Are you saying that EU teachers should not be allowed in? Why would anyone stay in a place where 52% of voters showed them that they weren’t wanted? It’s concerning enough when substantial numbers of Whites are antagonist towards non-Whites — but when a votes shows 52% of their own turned against them, it’s obviously time to go…
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