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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2023 6:06:38 GMT
Nothing wrong with GB News at all. A whole spectrum of political views need airing not just far left and centre left. Centre right needs representation as well. Televised media lacked that until GB News came along. Ok, a few years ago Murdoch tried launching Fox News here as a more further right media, but Fox News really is shit and nobody watched it. GB News is balanced, interesting and has some good presenters. A breath of fresh air. Inciting violence is not a political view. I have no problem with GBNews per se, in so far as it goes, right wing - left wing views are a matter for individual people. |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2023 6:13:11 GMT
What you think about whether the bloke was right or wrong or whether the protesters are right or wrong or the police are woke or wong is not the point, my point is a national broadcaster is 'applauding' and 'rewarding' the use of violence. This is a very dangerous step given the volatility in this country at present, see Cardiff as an example and nutters will now see it as a badge of honour to beat up protesters with the blessing of GBNews. No no no, you missunderstand. It's not a case of what 'I' think is right or wrong. Regardless of what you or I think, the law says it is an offence to block the public highway. Sect 137 of the Highways Act is very specific... ...'it is an offence to wilfully obstruct free passage along the public highway'. There is no grey area. Unless of course, you're a woke police officer who chooses what laws to enforce, and what laws to ignore. I have not said you are wrong, I agree with you about the law and I also agree that the police should be moving them on or arresting them. My point is really simple but people do not seem to get it, GBNews a national media outlet. should not be 'rewarding' acts of violence. The right would have gone bonkers if a national news media outlet had made the chap that threw eggs at the King a 'hero of the week', thereby encouraging others of a like mind to do the same. |
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Post by Vinny on May 31, 2023 7:33:24 GMT
Eco protesters have delayed patients getting to hospital including one who was having a stroke, left with permanent damage.
I'd use water cannons on the fuckers.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2023 7:55:33 GMT
Eco protesters have delayed patients getting to hospital including one who was having a stroke, left with permanent damage. I'd use water cannons on the fuckers. Yes they probably have and I have every sympathy with the victims and families. The police have the powers to put a stop to the protesters 'dangerous' actions but they wont, it appears unless it is for the King. The protesters will 'push' the boundaries of disruption while they can get away with it just like the members of the public that believe assaulting them is acceptable, escalation works both ways. |
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Post by Pacifico on May 31, 2023 11:24:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2023 11:31:02 GMT
I have seen them being interviewed, does that mean a national media outlet should 'encourage' acts of violence towards them? That's the point of the thread and sadly it appears to me, that some people agree that they should be 'assaulted'. Only you would be taken in by them Wonky. What they need is a fucking good kicking And a long term behind bars &&&& |
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Post by colbops on May 31, 2023 12:47:38 GMT
I think we have to recognise that the Just stop oil protestors are breaking the law when they hold a protest by blocking the King's Highway with no lawful reason or excuse. If they say they are a slow moving vehicle then they must pull over if they have six or more vehicles behind them. These are the laws that the police should be enforcing as regards the highway. The failure to enforce these laws leads the majority of us to be confused as to why? If a man was beating someone up in the street and the police just watched then a hero would be a person who tried to intervene and stop the law breaking even to the point of pushing a person out of the way. If he was then accused of assault it would be a poor show. The police are there to uphold the law and it is that failure that has created the GBNews hero and is a consequence of police inaction. This sort of thing has been foreseen for months and still the police fail to act even when a breach of the peace is in the offing. You cannot separate out the causes and the consequences and the consequence is that GBnews applauds a man doing the work the police will not and most of us do not know why the police should allow such protests to continue. The ULEZ protestors went to Trafalgar Square. The man in question is not a 'trained' police officer and is not only in danger of seriously harming the protesters but is in serious danger of being charged, convicted and sentenced for seriously injuring people. GBNews are 'encouraging' other citizens to take the law into their own hands and we all know that that never ends well. The police have the power of arrest, we saw that at the coronation, if protesters are breaking the law so my secondary point is why are they not doing so.Because they get heavily criticised when they do, particularly when it comes to the new powers granted to curb protesters. People start demanding enquiries, officers get hauled over the coals..... |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2023 13:10:28 GMT
The man in question is not a 'trained' police officer and is not only in danger of seriously harming the protesters but is in serious danger of being charged, convicted and sentenced for seriously injuring people. GBNews are 'encouraging' other citizens to take the law into their own hands and we all know that that never ends well. The police have the power of arrest, we saw that at the coronation, if protesters are breaking the law so my secondary point is why are they not doing so.Because they get heavily criticised when they do, particularly when it comes to the new powers granted to curb protesters. People start demanding enquiries, officers get hauled over the coals..... That did not seem to be a concern during the king's coronation. The police have a union and they should take it up with the relevant authority if any officer is "hauled over the coals". |
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Post by sandypine on May 31, 2023 13:18:32 GMT
I think we have to recognise that the Just stop oil protestors are breaking the law when they hold a protest by blocking the King's Highway with no lawful reason or excuse. If they say they are a slow moving vehicle then they must pull over if they have six or more vehicles behind them. These are the laws that the police should be enforcing as regards the highway. The failure to enforce these laws leads the majority of us to be confused as to why? If a man was beating someone up in the street and the police just watched then a hero would be a person who tried to intervene and stop the law breaking even to the point of pushing a person out of the way. If he was then accused of assault it would be a poor show. The police are there to uphold the law and it is that failure that has created the GBNews hero and is a consequence of police inaction. This sort of thing has been foreseen for months and still the police fail to act even when a breach of the peace is in the offing. You cannot separate out the causes and the consequences and the consequence is that GBnews applauds a man doing the work the police will not and most of us do not know why the police should allow such protests to continue. The ULEZ protestors went to Trafalgar Square. The man in question is not a 'trained' police officer and is not only in danger of seriously harming the protesters but is in serious danger of being charged, convicted and sentenced for seriously injuring people. GBNews are 'encouraging' other citizens to take the law into their own hands and we all know that that never ends well. The police have the power of arrest, we saw that at the coronation, if protesters are breaking the law so my secondary point is why are they not doing so. AS regards your secondary point the police should be arresting those who obstruct the King's Highway. It is from that that all else flows. The law is there for a reason to allow the progression of traffic along the highway. If the police fail to act, and there is little doubt they are failing to act, then it becomes a cause celebre those that are doing the police job for them. If the police stand by and watch some shoplifters pocketing your goods then would you regard an ordinary citizen who stopped them stealing your goods a hero or a criminal? What the police are currently doing is facilitating the breaking of the law by protestors and as many of us have said no good will come of that as frustrated and angry people will react and that includes those who report the news and are aghast at the attitude of those whose vocation it is to uphold the law. |
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Post by sandypine on May 31, 2023 13:27:55 GMT
No no no, you missunderstand. It's not a case of what 'I' think is right or wrong. Regardless of what you or I think, the law says it is an offence to block the public highway. Sect 137 of the Highways Act is very specific... ...'it is an offence to wilfully obstruct free passage along the public highway'. There is no grey area. Unless of course, you're a woke police officer who chooses what laws to enforce, and what laws to ignore. I have not said you are wrong, I agree with you about the law and I also agree that the police should be moving them on or arresting them. My point is really simple but people do not seem to get it, GBNews a national media outlet. should not be 'rewarding' acts of violence. The right would have gone bonkers if a national news media outlet had made the chap that threw eggs at the King a 'hero of the week', thereby encouraging others of a like mind to do the same. Should the police be rewarding lawbreakers with a nice cup of tea whilst said protestors continue to break the law. You have to look at why things are the way they are not take an event in isolation. GB news made a hero because everyone sees that the situation is effectively ludicrous. |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2023 13:38:35 GMT
The man in question is not a 'trained' police officer and is not only in danger of seriously harming the protesters but is in serious danger of being charged, convicted and sentenced for seriously injuring people. GBNews are 'encouraging' other citizens to take the law into their own hands and we all know that that never ends well. The police have the power of arrest, we saw that at the coronation, if protesters are breaking the law so my secondary point is why are they not doing so. AS regards your secondary point the police should be arresting those who obstruct the King's Highway. It is from that that all else flows. The law is there for a reason to allow the progression of traffic along the highway. If the police fail to act, and there is little doubt they are failing to act, then it becomes a cause celebre those that are doing the police job for them. If the police stand by and watch some shoplifters pocketing your goods then would you regard an ordinary citizen who stopped them stealing your goods a hero or a criminal? What the police are currently doing is facilitating the breaking of the law by protestors and as many of us have said no good will come of that as frustrated and angry people will react and that includes those who report the news and are aghast at the attitude of those whose vocation it is to uphold the law. " If the police stand by and watch some shoplifters pocketing your goods" do you have any instances where this has happened, I think not. So why is there a difference. Do you think the police and those in charge of the police do not know that 'angry' people will take matters into their own hands when these incidents are occurring? I have said before that I think the 'tactics' of blocking roads is not the right one but my worry is why the police, given they have the power to arrest these people are not doing so. GBNews are 'glorifying' the violence by rewarding the perpetrators. |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2023 13:39:45 GMT
I have not said you are wrong, I agree with you about the law and I also agree that the police should be moving them on or arresting them. My point is really simple but people do not seem to get it, GBNews a national media outlet. should not be 'rewarding' acts of violence. The right would have gone bonkers if a national news media outlet had made the chap that threw eggs at the King a 'hero of the week', thereby encouraging others of a like mind to do the same. Should the police be rewarding lawbreakers with a nice cup of tea whilst said protestors continue to break the law. You have to look at why things are the way they are not take an event in isolation. GB news made a hero because everyone sees that the situation is effectively ludicrous. No they should not. We, as a country should not 'reward' violence. |
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Post by Fairsociety on May 31, 2023 13:40:05 GMT
I have not said you are wrong, I agree with you about the law and I also agree that the police should be moving them on or arresting them. My point is really simple but people do not seem to get it, GBNews a national media outlet. should not be 'rewarding' acts of violence. The right would have gone bonkers if a national news media outlet had made the chap that threw eggs at the King a 'hero of the week', thereby encouraging others of a like mind to do the same. Should the police be rewarding lawbreakers with a nice cup of tea whilst said protestors continue to break the law. You have to look at why things are the way they are not take an event in isolation. GB news made a hero because everyone sees that the situation is effectively ludicrous. Can you imagine the uproar if the police were handing out cups of tea to law breaker burglars or car thieves , shoplifters or muggers, what's the difference in these Just stop oil law breakers?
The only thing you can conclude they are well educated, well-to-do, and well connected, they are using this to their advantage in the justice system, a nod and wink at the right people and they just get off with a slap on the wrist, it's not what you know, it's who you know.
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Post by jonksy on May 31, 2023 13:42:43 GMT
Should the police be rewarding lawbreakers with a nice cup of tea whilst said protestors continue to break the law. You have to look at why things are the way they are not take an event in isolation. GB news made a hero because everyone sees that the situation is effectively ludicrous. Can you imagine the uproar if the police were handing out cups of tea to law breaker burglars or car thief's, shoplifters or muggers, what's the difference in these Just stop oil law breakers?
The only thing you can conclude they are well educated, well-to-do, and well connected, they are using this to their advantage in the justice system, a nod and wink at the right people and they just get off with a slap on the wrist, it's not what you know, it's who you know.
I'll tell you the difference mate they have put 150 million in smarmy starmer war chest. |
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Post by Fairsociety on May 31, 2023 13:44:32 GMT
Can you imagine the uproar if the police were handing out cups of tea to law breaker burglars or car thief's, shoplifters or muggers, what's the difference in these Just stop oil law breakers?
The only thing you can conclude they are well educated, well-to-do, and well connected, they are using this to their advantage in the justice system, a nod and wink at the right people and they just get off with a slap on the wrist, it's not what you know, it's who you know.
I'll tell you the difference mate they have put 150 million in smarmy starmer war chest. I almost forgot to mention they are also the loony lefties ... LOL |
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