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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2023 6:37:42 GMT
The long suffering public, which is only a very, very small percentage of the population should aske why the police are not doing their job despite having the powers, despite the obvious pressures it is putting on those affected. When have I ever "seemed to suggest we suck it up and grin and bear it" I have been asking the question since this topic and prvious topics started. Why are the police not doing their job?
Please don't say it is because they are woke lefty snowflakes, that response has become a bit lame. You seem to becasue you prefer to criticise a news outlet for having had enough of this nonsense and celebrating the public 'fighting back'. When a white man was attacked by a gang of black men at Waterloo station, there was no condemnation of the attack, there was only praise for the black man who rescued him. The moral compass of the news outlets is skewed and GB is no exception but you only pick on GB. It may only be a small percentage for this particular issue but most issues affect overall a very large percentage of that public in one way or another. Mass immigration affects some, illegal immigration affects some, net zero policies affects many, eco zealots affect some. In general, and I have to say it, lefty snowflakery affects most people in various and varied negative ways. I honestly do believe you're wasting your time trying to convince him, but it's still beneficial for the greater good to break down their agenda. GB News is a platform that isn't chirping the establishment line and will say what the corporate left media refuse to mention, so it's bound to be met with the no-platform far-left who cannot tolerate something different, even if it's only a little out of their comfort zone. |
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 2, 2023 6:41:13 GMT
It is a news outlet, why so doubtful? I recall the incident very well and the reporting of the same by a host of 'outlets. Largely it is not what people report that is teh problem it what they do not report that often creates a different picture. It is more like a right wing magazine. A 'normal' news outlet does not reward the perpetrators of crimes. It is one thing to give an opinion but another to act illegally. The "perpetrator" as you keep putting it was not charged for any illegal crime, and was released. GBNews was right to congratulate the victim, against the perpetrators who assumed ownership of a public area like the road. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2023 6:48:06 GMT
It is more like a right wing magazine. A 'normal' news outlet does not reward the perpetrators of crimes. It is one thing to give an opinion but another to act illegally. The "perpetrator" as you keep putting it was not charged for any illegal crime, and was released. GBNews was right to congratulate the victim, against the perpetrators who assumed ownership of a public area like the road. I don't agree with the protesters tactics. Members of the public who take the law into their own hands are committing an offence. If a protesters gets seriously harmed by a member of the public he/she will not 'get away' with it they will be charged and especially if it is recorded, convicted of a serious crime. Not charging the man leads people to a false sense of security regarding the protesters. GBNews is promoting criminality. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2023 6:54:24 GMT
It is more like a right wing magazine. A 'normal' news outlet does not reward the perpetrators of crimes. It is one thing to give an opinion but another to act illegally. The "perpetrator" as you keep putting it was not charged for any illegal crime, and was released. GBNews was right to congratulate the victim, against the perpetrators who assumed ownership of a public area like the road. I'm sure GB news had their finger on the pulse of the country on that one, while Labour is taking bribe money from the organisation's financial sponsors that encourages the loony left to continue breaking the law. |
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 2, 2023 6:57:38 GMT
The "perpetrator" as you keep putting it was not charged for any illegal crime, and was released. GBNews was right to congratulate the victim, against the perpetrators who assumed ownership of a public area like the road. I don't agree with the protesters tactics. Members of the public who take the law into their own hands are committing an offence. If a protesters gets seriously harmed by a member of the public he/she will not 'get away' with it they will be charged and especially if it is recorded, convicted of a serious crime. Not charging the man leads people to a false sense of security regarding the protesters. GBNews is promoting criminality. You seem keen to call this victim a perpetrator and falsely accuse him of illegal activity. He wasn't charged with anything. Therefore, your demonisation of him is seriously flawed. You carry on as though he hacked somebody's head off and GBNews are congratulating him for it. Your exaggeration is founded upon nothing else other than a deep-seated political bias. |
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Post by sandypine on Jun 2, 2023 7:45:32 GMT
The presenters have opinions and make it clear what those opinions are, it does not stop counter opinions being aired in debate. Perhaps if the police were actually doing their job of ensuring the King's Highway was free from obstruction as legislated by the representatives of the people then their would be no need to applaud those taking the law into their own hands. If we are discussing News Outlets being partisan as regards law breakers then the Colston statue incident is a veritable cornucopia of hero worship of lawbreakers by a News Outlet. If the presenters express their opinion on a NEWS channel then it is not a NEWS channel it is a Magazine. Unless a person fears for their safety or the safety of others then "taking the law into their own hands" is illegal. Opinions on any show are hard to 'hide' there is always an undercurrent of 'bias' but to reward violence oversteps that bias line. So when Clive Myrie called Tyson Fury a dickhead that moved the BBC from a news outlet to a magazine programme. When BBC presenters say man made climate change IS doing x,y and z they are in a magazine programme. When BBC reporters call parties 'far right' they are not a news outlet they are a magazine programme. Any conclusion removes any programme from being a news programme |
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Post by sandypine on Jun 2, 2023 7:47:13 GMT
It is more like a right wing magazine. A 'normal' news outlet does not reward the perpetrators of crimes. It is one thing to give an opinion but another to act illegally. The "perpetrator" as you keep putting it was not charged for any illegal crime, and was released. GBNews was right to congratulate the victim, against the perpetrators who assumed ownership of a public area like the road. Probably right but as in any debate it is not convincing the other party it is hoping that unconvinced others will be swayed. |
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Post by Hutchyns on Jun 2, 2023 7:53:23 GMT
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As Buccaneer reminds us, the valiant and public spirited member of the public who helped clear the highway and alleviate the ever worsening snarl up of traffic, has not been charged with any offence, or of inflicting even the slightest injury to anyone.
The public would much rather the law be upheld by those tasked (and fairly well paid) with carrying out that duty. As the incident in question was filmed, it is crystal clear that the opportunity to uphold the law was something that the police officers present blatantly, and for a considerable period of time, were refusing to do.
If the police refuse to have the law in their hands (as every indication seems to be the case here) then thankfully there are still responsible members of the public, who will shoulder the task of making sure the law is respected and upheld. Such public spirited citizens receive the gratitude of the vast majority of the public, and of GB News it appears.
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 2, 2023 8:03:01 GMT
Red Rum As Buccaneer reminds us, the valiant and public spirited member of the public who helped clear the highway and alleviate the ever worsening snarl up of traffic, has not been charged with any offence, or of inflicting even the slightest injury to anyone. The public would much rather the law be upheld by those tasked (and fairly well paid) with carrying out that duty. As the incident in question was filmed, it is crystal clear that the opportunity to uphold the law was something that the police officers present blatantly, and for a considerable period of time, were refusing to do. If the police refuse to have the law in their hands (as every indication seems to be the case here) then thankfully there are still responsible members of the public, who will shoulder the task of making sure the law is respected and upheld. Such public spirited citizens receive the gratitude of the vast majority of the public, and of GB News it appears. Hear, hear. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2023 7:16:54 GMT
It is more like a right wing magazine. A 'normal' news outlet does not reward the perpetrators of crimes. It is one thing to give an opinion but another to act illegally. The "perpetrator" as you keep putting it was not charged for any illegal crime, and was released. GBNews was right to congratulate the victim, against the perpetrators who assumed ownership of a public area like the road. Are you saying that assault is not an illegal crime? Not sure when some people will get the idea that I do not support the protestors blocking the roads especially whilst they are being 'escorted' by the police. By the same token nobody, not individual or news media should support people taking the law into their own hands and committing assault, violence begets violence. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2023 7:18:36 GMT
The "perpetrator" as you keep putting it was not charged for any illegal crime, and was released. GBNews was right to congratulate the victim, against the perpetrators who assumed ownership of a public area like the road. I'm sure GB news had their finger on the pulse of the country on that one, while Labour is taking bribe money from the organisation's financial sponsors that encourages the loony left to continue breaking the law. What are Labour being bribed for? How do you know the man that assaulted the protesters was a 'loony left'? Why categorise? |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 4, 2023 7:37:25 GMT
Are you saying that assault is not an illegal crime? There was no assault. Reasonable force used to prevent crime is not assault. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2023 7:37:39 GMT
RedRum - sorry, your post is too stupid for me.
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Post by Dan Dare on Jun 4, 2023 7:48:30 GMT
"Are you saying that assault is not an illegal crime?"
Illegal crime? As opposed to a legal one?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2023 8:09:08 GMT
Are you saying that assault is not an illegal crime? There was no assault. Reasonable force used to prevent crime is not assault. There was no preventing a crime a crime was being committed. The protesters, whilst committing a crime, were not threatening the man who 'attracted' them. The man who assaulted the protestors could quite reasonably of asked the police to carry out their duty and remove the protestors, they did not need that request at the coronation. |
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