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Post by buccaneer on May 26, 2023 10:31:23 GMT
Germany’s recession makes a mockery of myopic RemoanersIt is wrong to suggest that Brexit has turned Britain into the sick man of EuropeConspiracy theorists interpret everything negative that happens, from terror attacks to bank failures, as being the result of a singular gang of nefarious agents. Yet though they represent an extreme, it is commonplace for human beings to cling onto a singular explanation – usually one that they find emotionally appealing – and use it to explain a range of unrelated phenomena. In psychology this is known as "confirmation bias" and is characterised by latching onto an emotionally charged event, group or person and assigning blame to this for subsequent negative events. We have seen in Brexit one of the most dramatic instances of confirmation bias in living memory. It certainly fit the bill as an emotionally charged event. Extreme emotional investment in political happenings is usually thought of as an American phenomenon. The British are regarded as a colder, more detached bunch. But Brexit changed all that. People, often highly educated, who were passionately opposed to the decision to leave the European Union became completely obsessed by it. (Note: Gnome, Kim and Darling)This has led to real problems when assessing our economic situation. Britain is suffering some serious ails, many of which are long-standing and go back decades. But since the cracks really started to appear after the lockdowns, many have found it simpler to pin blame on the 2016 referendum. As events unfold, however, the “Project Fear is becoming Brexit Reality” narrative is becoming harder and harder to maintain. This week, Germany fell into a technical recession, with GDP contracting in the final quarter of 2022 and again in the first quarter of 2023. Around the same time, the IMF revised its forecasts, stating that Britain will not be facing a recession this year. Last time I checked, Germany remains in the European Union, yet it experienced a technical recession before Britain.
Economists should caution the public against following the news feed too carefully when trying to assess big economic shifts ( note to Gnome grabbing the latest myopic headline for a thread!) , but the recent headlines certainly cast doubt over the Remainer belief that Britain is slipping behind because Brexit has been an unmitigated failure. www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/05/26/germanys-recession-makes-a-mockery-of-myopic-remoaners/Germany is in a recession the UK is not. Germany is in the EU the UK is not. Should we blame Germany's recession on Brexit as well?
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Post by Einhorn on May 26, 2023 11:12:05 GMT
People, often highly educated, who were passionately opposed to the decision to leave the European Union became completely obsessed by it. (Note: Gnome, Kim and Darling)I take offense at being objectivised as some sort of brain in a vat. I'm also a glorious hunk of meat with washboard abs. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2023 11:19:57 GMT
Germany’s recession makes a mockery of myopic RemoanersIt is wrong to suggest that Brexit has turned Britain into the sick man of EuropeConspiracy theorists interpret everything negative that happens, from terror attacks to bank failures, as being the result of a singular gang of nefarious agents. Yet though they represent an extreme, it is commonplace for human beings to cling onto a singular explanation – usually one that they find emotionally appealing – and use it to explain a range of unrelated phenomena. In psychology this is known as "confirmation bias" and is characterised by latching onto an emotionally charged event, group or person and assigning blame to this for subsequent negative events.We have seen in Brexit one of the most dramatic instances of confirmation bias in living memory. It certainly fit the bill as an emotionally charged event. Extreme emotional investment in political happenings is usually thought of as an American phenomenon. The British are regarded as a colder, more detached bunch. But Brexit changed all that. People, often highly educated, who were passionately opposed to the decision to leave the European Union became completely obsessed by it. (Note: Gnome, Kim and Darling)This has led to real problems when assessing our economic situation. Britain is suffering some serious ails, many of which are long-standing and go back decades. But since the cracks really started to appear after the lockdowns, many have found it simpler to pin blame on the 2016 referendum. As events unfold, however, the “Project Fear is becoming Brexit Reality” narrative is becoming harder and harder to maintain. This week, Germany fell into a technical recession, with GDP contracting in the final quarter of 2022 and again in the first quarter of 2023. Around the same time, the IMF revised its forecasts, stating that Britain will not be facing a recession this year. Last time I checked, Germany remains in the European Union, yet it experienced a technical recession before Britain.
Economists should caution the public against following the news feed too carefully when trying to assess big economic shifts ( note to Gnome grabbing the latest myopic headline for a thread!) , but the recent headlines certainly cast doubt over the Remainer belief that Britain is slipping behind because Brexit has been an unmitigated failure. www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/05/26/germanys-recession-makes-a-mockery-of-myopic-remoaners/Germany is in a recession the UK is not. Germany is in the EU the UK is not. Should we blame Germany's recession on Brexit as well? Confirmation bias is this: "It is wrong to suggest that Brexit has turned Britain into the sick man of Europe....This week, Germany fell into a technical recession, with GDP contracting in the final quarter of 2022 and again in the first quarter of 2023. Around the same time, the IMF revised its forecasts, stating that Britain will not be facing a recession this year. Last time I checked, Germany remains in the European Union, yet it experienced a technical recession before Britain."  There is a group of people who are very clearly obsessed with denying the damage caused by Brexit and the failure of Brexit itself. Their obsession has reached a point where they themselves and their obsession compelled others to present the reality because rather than face and face up to the truth about the failure of Brexit and accept it, their chosen path is to find excuses for Brexit; blame anything and everything but Brexit. They clearly regard recognition and acceptance of Brexit's failure as being tantamount to its betrayal. |
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Post by Pacifico on May 26, 2023 17:16:34 GMT
Germany’s recession makes a mockery of myopic RemoanersIt is wrong to suggest that Brexit has turned Britain into the sick man of EuropeConspiracy theorists interpret everything negative that happens, from terror attacks to bank failures, as being the result of a singular gang of nefarious agents. Yet though they represent an extreme, it is commonplace for human beings to cling onto a singular explanation – usually one that they find emotionally appealing – and use it to explain a range of unrelated phenomena. In psychology this is known as "confirmation bias" and is characterised by latching onto an emotionally charged event, group or person and assigning blame to this for subsequent negative events.We have seen in Brexit one of the most dramatic instances of confirmation bias in living memory. It certainly fit the bill as an emotionally charged event. Extreme emotional investment in political happenings is usually thought of as an American phenomenon. The British are regarded as a colder, more detached bunch. But Brexit changed all that. People, often highly educated, who were passionately opposed to the decision to leave the European Union became completely obsessed by it. (Note: Gnome, Kim and Darling)This has led to real problems when assessing our economic situation. Britain is suffering some serious ails, many of which are long-standing and go back decades. But since the cracks really started to appear after the lockdowns, many have found it simpler to pin blame on the 2016 referendum. As events unfold, however, the “Project Fear is becoming Brexit Reality” narrative is becoming harder and harder to maintain. This week, Germany fell into a technical recession, with GDP contracting in the final quarter of 2022 and again in the first quarter of 2023. Around the same time, the IMF revised its forecasts, stating that Britain will not be facing a recession this year. Last time I checked, Germany remains in the European Union, yet it experienced a technical recession before Britain.
Economists should caution the public against following the news feed too carefully when trying to assess big economic shifts ( note to Gnome grabbing the latest myopic headline for a thread!) , but the recent headlines certainly cast doubt over the Remainer belief that Britain is slipping behind because Brexit has been an unmitigated failure. www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/05/26/germanys-recession-makes-a-mockery-of-myopic-remoaners/Germany is in a recession the UK is not. Germany is in the EU the UK is not. Should we blame Germany's recession on Brexit as well? Confirmation bias is this: "It is wrong to suggest that Brexit has turned Britain into the sick man of Europe....This week, Germany fell into a technical recession, with GDP contracting in the final quarter of 2022 and again in the first quarter of 2023. Around the same time, the IMF revised its forecasts, stating that Britain will not be facing a recession this year. Last time I checked, Germany remains in the European Union, yet it experienced a technical recession before Britain." There is a group of people who are very clearly obsessed with denying the damage caused by Brexit and the failure of Brexit itself. Their obsession has reached a point where they themselves and their obsession compelled others to present the reality because rather than face and face up to the truth about the failure of Brexit and accept it, their chosen path is to find excuses for Brexit; blame anything and everything but Brexit. They clearly regard recognition and acceptance of Brexit's failure as being tantamount to its betrayal. And then you have people like you who are so obsessed that they blame everything that goes wrong in the UK on Brexit. Cest La vie.. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2023 18:07:54 GMT
Confirmation bias is this: "It is wrong to suggest that Brexit has turned Britain into the sick man of Europe....This week, Germany fell into a technical recession, with GDP contracting in the final quarter of 2022 and again in the first quarter of 2023. Around the same time, the IMF revised its forecasts, stating that Britain will not be facing a recession this year. Last time I checked, Germany remains in the European Union, yet it experienced a technical recession before Britain." There is a group of people who are very clearly obsessed with denying the damage caused by Brexit and the failure of Brexit itself. Their obsession has reached a point where they themselves and their obsession compelled others to present the reality because rather than face and face up to the truth about the failure of Brexit and accept it, their chosen path is to find excuses for Brexit; blame anything and everything but Brexit. They clearly regard recognition and acceptance of Brexit's failure as being tantamount to its betrayal. And then you have people like you who are so obsessed that they blame everything that goes wrong in the UK on Brexit. Cest La vie.. ^ The epitome of the obsession I talk about. The extent of their obsession drives others to present the true reality and real truth of the damage the failed Brexit has caused. |
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Post by buccaneer on May 28, 2023 19:58:37 GMT
Remainer lies are crumbling as the German economy slumpsWhile European economies deteriorate, doomsayers are finding increasingly desperate ways to convince themselves that Brexit has failedApparently, it is fine to trumpet when “Brexit Britain” is doing badly, but unacceptable to point out when other major economies are faring worse. The troubles of our neighbours are not a reason to cheer –but context is important. If you want to pick the “sick man of Europe”, try Germany. The latest data show that the EU’s largest economy shrank in each of the past two quarters, as consumer spending crumbled under the weight of high inflation and a slump in real wages. This continues a trend. Since the vote to leave the EU in 2016, the UK economy (as measured by GDP) has grown by 5.9 per cent. German GDP has only increased by 5 per cent. Other European countries are not in much better health. The French economy has grown by 8 per cent since 2016. This is partly due to the embracing of more business-friendly policies, including cuts in corporation tax (sadly abandoned in the UK). But it also reflects massive state intervention during the energy crisis, which has hamstrung the main supplier (EDF) and saddled French taxpayers with a huge bill. France’s sovereign credit rating was downgraded by Fitch last month, with a warning that its public finances are “weaker than peers”. Italy has posted the fastest growth of the major European economies since the pandemic. But this strong performance has been flattered by a construction boom, fuelled by subsidies and tax breaks, which has now hit the wall. Its rebound also needs to be seen in the context of the lost decade of growth since the global financial crisis: the Italian economy is still 3 per cent smaller than it was at the start of 2008. The failure of their predictions means that Remainer doomsayers have had to fall back on three other types of evidence. The first is to compare the performance of the UK with other major European economies on goods trade, business investment or inflation, instead. If you carefully select the numbers and time frames, it is possible to paint a bearish picture. But there are alternative explanations (such as the different impacts of Covid and the energy crisis in each country) that have little to do with Brexit. The second trick is to rely on forecasts from bodies such as the IMF and OECD. There are many problems here. One is that these like-minded organisations have a negative view of Brexit, so this is bound to be reflected in their projections. It is also telling that the IMF has already had to revise up its 2023 growth forecasts for the UK by a full percentage point – and is now predicting that the UK economy will grow faster over the next five years than those of Germany, France or Italy. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/27/remainer-lies-are-crumbling-as-germany-slumps/The lies and misinformation will continue ad nauseam from remoaners, but it's good to counter that kind of narrative with some home-truths every now and again.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2023 22:02:32 GMT
Home truths in a nutshell: "German economy slumps; therefore, Brexit has not failed." The direct correlation is both outstanding and astounding.  |
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Post by jonksy on May 29, 2023 5:40:12 GMT
Home truths in a nutshell: "German economy slumps; therefore, Brexit has not failed." The direct correlation is both outstanding and astounding. Poor old gnome his beloved EUSSR is crumbling but he is too thick to see reality. Good innit gnomeee babe. |
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Post by Vinny on May 29, 2023 6:41:56 GMT
I don't like him either but can you refrain from calling him "thick" and just block him ?
If you break the rules he can report you.
If you block him, he loses any power over you.
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Post by buccaneer on May 29, 2023 7:20:12 GMT
Home truths in a nutshell: "German economy slumps; therefore, Brexit has not failed." The direct correlation is both outstanding and astounding. This applies also, to you.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2023 10:17:54 GMT
Home truths in a nutshell: "German economy slumps; therefore, Brexit has not failed." The direct correlation is both outstanding and astounding. This applies also, to you. Sorry, but I do not correlate Brexit Britain's economic performance with that of the EU or other major economies. So, No; it doesn't apply to my position on the issue, much less, to me personally. Those economies run independently of Brexit Britain so that a slump in the German economy, for example, does not signify Brexit success. Conversely, a boost in the Germany economy wouldn't signify a Brexit failure. For your analysis to be relevant and useful, the correlation must be between Brexit Britain and a Counterfactual Britain. Not between German or US or EU and Brexit Britain. Brexit has failed whether or not the EU and other major economies have fared worse. As simple as that. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 29, 2023 10:33:20 GMT
Germany’s recession makes a mockery of myopic RemoanersIt is wrong to suggest that Brexit has turned Britain into the sick man of EuropeConspiracy theorists interpret everything negative that happens, from terror attacks to bank failures, as being the result of a singular gang of nefarious agents. Yet though they represent an extreme, it is commonplace for human beings to cling onto a singular explanation – usually one that they find emotionally appealing – and use it to explain a range of unrelated phenomena. In psychology this is known as "confirmation bias" and is characterised by latching onto an emotionally charged event, group or person and assigning blame to this for subsequent negative events. We have seen in Brexit one of the most dramatic instances of confirmation bias in living memory. It certainly fit the bill as an emotionally charged event. Extreme emotional investment in political happenings is usually thought of as an American phenomenon. The British are regarded as a colder, more detached bunch. But Brexit changed all that. People, often highly educated, who were passionately opposed to the decision to leave the European Union became completely obsessed by it. (Note: Gnome, Kim and Darling)This has led to real problems when assessing our economic situation. Britain is suffering some serious ails, many of which are long-standing and go back decades. But since the cracks really started to appear after the lockdowns, many have found it simpler to pin blame on the 2016 referendum. As events unfold, however, the “Project Fear is becoming Brexit Reality” narrative is becoming harder and harder to maintain. This week, Germany fell into a technical recession, with GDP contracting in the final quarter of 2022 and again in the first quarter of 2023. Around the same time, the IMF revised its forecasts, stating that Britain will not be facing a recession this year. Last time I checked, Germany remains in the European Union, yet it experienced a technical recession before Britain.
Economists should caution the public against following the news feed too carefully when trying to assess big economic shifts ( note to Gnome grabbing the latest myopic headline for a thread!) , but the recent headlines certainly cast doubt over the Remainer belief that Britain is slipping behind because Brexit has been an unmitigated failure. www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/05/26/germanys-recession-makes-a-mockery-of-myopic-remoaners/Germany is in a recession the UK is not. Germany is in the EU the UK is not. Should we blame Germany's recession on Brexit as well? Use quotes for shit you read in the MSM please. I started reading that thinking it was you, but you had substituted your brain for the MSM and I spotted it was MSM a few lines in at this line.
Only the shit talkers in the MSM could make such a huge generalisation as this so I realised I was being had.
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Post by buccaneer on May 29, 2023 11:22:18 GMT
This applies also, to you. Sorry, but I do not correlate Brexit Britain's economic performance with that of the EU or other major economies. So, No; it doesn't apply to my position on the issue, much less, to me personally.
Those economies run independently of Brexit Britain so that a slump in the German economy, for example, does not signify Brexit success. Conversely, a boost in the Germany economy wouldn't signify a Brexit failure. For your analysis to be relevant and useful, the correlation must be between Brexit Britain and a Counterfactual Britain. Not between German or US or EU and Brexit Britain. Brexit has failed whether or not the EU and other major economies have fared worse. As simple as that. Sorry, this is absolute BS. You've been whinging and wailing about the UK lagging behind G7 economies for a while now. You can't now falsely claim said economies cannot be viewed in comparison with Britain because the "powerhouse" of Europe is now in a recession and Britain is not. |
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Post by buccaneer on May 29, 2023 11:28:49 GMT
Germany’s recession makes a mockery of myopic RemoanersIt is wrong to suggest that Brexit has turned Britain into the sick man of EuropeConspiracy theorists interpret everything negative that happens, from terror attacks to bank failures, as being the result of a singular gang of nefarious agents. Yet though they represent an extreme, it is commonplace for human beings to cling onto a singular explanation – usually one that they find emotionally appealing – and use it to explain a range of unrelated phenomena. In psychology this is known as "confirmation bias" and is characterised by latching onto an emotionally charged event, group or person and assigning blame to this for subsequent negative events. We have seen in Brexit one of the most dramatic instances of confirmation bias in living memory. It certainly fit the bill as an emotionally charged event. Extreme emotional investment in political happenings is usually thought of as an American phenomenon. The British are regarded as a colder, more detached bunch. But Brexit changed all that. People, often highly educated, who were passionately opposed to the decision to leave the European Union became completely obsessed by it. (Note: Gnome, Kim and Darling)This has led to real problems when assessing our economic situation. Britain is suffering some serious ails, many of which are long-standing and go back decades. But since the cracks really started to appear after the lockdowns, many have found it simpler to pin blame on the 2016 referendum. As events unfold, however, the “Project Fear is becoming Brexit Reality” narrative is becoming harder and harder to maintain. This week, Germany fell into a technical recession, with GDP contracting in the final quarter of 2022 and again in the first quarter of 2023. Around the same time, the IMF revised its forecasts, stating that Britain will not be facing a recession this year. Last time I checked, Germany remains in the European Union, yet it experienced a technical recession before Britain.
Economists should caution the public against following the news feed too carefully when trying to assess big economic shifts ( note to Gnome grabbing the latest myopic headline for a thread!) , but the recent headlines certainly cast doubt over the Remainer belief that Britain is slipping behind because Brexit has been an unmitigated failure. www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/05/26/germanys-recession-makes-a-mockery-of-myopic-remoaners/Germany is in a recession the UK is not. Germany is in the EU the UK is not. Should we blame Germany's recession on Brexit as well? Use quotes for shit you read in the MSM please. I started reading that thinking it was you, but you had substituted your brain for the MSM and I spotted it was MSM a few lines in at this line.
Only the shit talkers in the MSM could make such a huge generalisation as this so I realised I was being had.
Oh well, if you are sitting on your brain rather than using it, and failed to realise that big black bold headline was from the link and the text was finished off with a link before I posted my own words. Then yes, I will put the text in quotes for people like yourself who publicly announce they struggle with things like this. My bad. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 29, 2023 11:35:52 GMT
Use quotes for shit you read in the MSM please. I started reading that thinking it was you, but you had substituted your brain for the MSM and I spotted it was MSM a few lines in at this line.
Only the shit talkers in the MSM could make such a huge generalisation as this so I realised I was being had.
Oh well, if you are sitting on your brain rather than using it, and failed to realise that big black bold headline was from the link and the text was finished off with a link before I posted my own words. Then yes, I will put the text in quotes for people like yourself who publicly announce they struggle with things like this. My bad. Good because quotes are the convention we have used for thousands of years. The bold text thing is a new one on me. Besides I really don't know why you go reproducing crap. I come here to get away from the MSM. |
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