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Post by Pacifico on May 21, 2023 21:48:44 GMT
Pat, I assure you I'm not in a 'tizzy'. This situation is the norm, it's what we have become used to. You are not stupid, you know very well that no organisation, company or individual would be allowed to demand/advise/order/request, insert the synonym of your choice, that black people are not welcome, and the reason it would not be allowed is because it would quite obviously be racist. However, if the boot is on the other foot, then all is well, no problem, nothing to see here officer. As I've said many times, in 21st century UK racism is a one way street. You won't even try though, how do you know if you don't give it a go? give what a go?
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Post by patman post on May 21, 2023 23:49:59 GMT
OK, so there's no prohibition on anyone attending.
If venues and performers are content they don't contravene any regulation, why shouldn't they be able to explain and stage performances aimed specifically at Asian, Christian, Islamic, Jewish, White, Black, Female, Children, Families or LGBT+, etc, audiences?
Nobody is stopped from attending, but it wouldn't surprise me if some EDL types, who are able to read, might nevertheless go and try to kick up a fuss...
I’ll ask you again Do you think this is acceptable and do you think this would be accepted ? WHAT IS A WHITE OUT? “A WHITE OUT night is the purposeful creation of an environment in which an all-white -identifying audience can experience and discuss an event in the performing arts, film, and cultural spaces – free from the black gaze.whitoutnite .com Ill add this too…..”Black theatregoers urged not to attend play aimed at white audiences A theatre in east London says that one-off performance of race satire Tambo & Bones WILL be ‘free from the Black gaze’” The problem is that, like our impatient (short tempered) snappy British bulldog, you’re either intentionally not understanding and adding in your own interpretation of the English language. The theatre and production company is staging for one performance a show that they explain is aimed a Black audience, but they go out of their way to point out that nobody is excluded from attending. To my mind it takes a particularly perverse poster to see that meaning that White attendees wouldn’t be welcome — what’s so special about potential White audience members that they’d be singled out over oriental, Middle Eastern, or Indian subcontinent ethnicities…? PS — I don’t think I’ll be going, Hackney Empire is our local theatre of regular choice, plus we can park and shop in Tesco…
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Post by Bentley on May 22, 2023 8:44:42 GMT
I’ll ask you again Do you think this is acceptable and do you think this would be accepted ? WHAT IS A WHITE OUT? “A WHITE OUT night is the purposeful creation of an environment in which an all-white -identifying audience can experience and discuss an event in the performing arts, film, and cultural spaces – free from the black gaze.whitoutnite .com Ill add this too…..”Black theatregoers urged not to attend play aimed at white audiences A theatre in east London says that one-off performance of race satire Tambo & Bones WILL be ‘free from the Black gaze’” The problem is that, like our impatient (short tempered) snappy British bulldog, you’re either intentionally not understanding and adding in your own interpretation of the English language. The theatre and production company is staging for one performance a show that they explain is aimed a Black audience, but they go out of their way to point out that nobody is excluded from attending. To my mind it takes a particularly perverse poster to see that meaning that White attendees wouldn’t be welcome — what’s so special about potential White audience members that they’d be singled out over oriental, Middle Eastern, or Indian subcontinent ethnicities…? PS — I don’t think I’ll be going, Hackney Empire is our local theatre of regular choice, plus we can park and shop in Tesco… The problem is that you are avoiding the question . Do you think it would be acceptable for a theatre to have a white only night , stating that white people there want to be free from the ‘black gaze ‘but stating the black people can turn up if they like ? You know very well that this would not be acceptable.
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Post by patman post on May 22, 2023 11:07:42 GMT
I am not avoiding the question.
What I have maintained all through this discussion is that the theatre and production have stated that nobody is excluded from this one performance during a month-long run and it’s misinformation to report that White people are excluded.
If a theatre and production wanted to stage a performance highlighting White experience advertised as being aimed at a White audience, and also that stating nobody would be excluded, it probably would get similar reactions to what’s happened here. It would be no more distasteful or illegal than the performance scheduled at the Theatre Royal Stratford East on 5th July…
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Post by Bentley on May 22, 2023 11:11:19 GMT
I am not avoiding the question. What I have maintained all through this discussion is that the theatre and production have stated that nobody is excluded from this one performance during a month-long run and it’s misinformation to report that White people are excluded. If a theatre and production wanted to stage a performance highlighting White experience advertised as being aimed at a White audience, and also that stating nobody would be excluded, it probably would get similar reactions to what’s happened here. It would be no more distasteful or illegal than the performance scheduled at the Theatre Royal Stratford East on 5th July… Nope. You are the one posting a strawman that everone is saying that white people are excluded. I repeat …. The problem is that you are avoiding the question . Do you think it would be acceptable for a theatre to have a white only night , stating that white people there want to be free from the ‘black gaze ‘but stating the black people can turn up if they like ? You know very well that this would not be acceptable.
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Post by patman post on May 22, 2023 11:23:36 GMT
Initial references to this play say White audiences are urged not to attend. No reference was made to it being just one performance during a month-long run being staged in what’s promoted as a “BlackOut nite”.
I have answered your question. I said: It would be no more distasteful or illegal than the performance scheduled at the Theatre Royal Stratford East on 5th July…
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Post by Bentley on May 22, 2023 11:25:20 GMT
Initial references to this play say White audiences are urged not to attend. No reference was made to it being just one performance during a month-long run being staged in what’s promoted as a “BlackOut nite”. I have answered your question. I said: It would be no more distasteful or illegal than the performance scheduled at the Theatre Royal Stratford East on 5th July… You’ve done everything but answer the question.
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Post by patman post on May 22, 2023 11:46:34 GMT
Initial references to this play say White audiences are urged not to attend. No reference was made to it being just one performance during a month-long run being staged in what’s promoted as a “BlackOut nite”. I have answered your question. I said: It would be no more distasteful or illegal than the performance scheduled at the Theatre Royal Stratford East on 5th July… You’ve done everything but answer the question. I shall try again: If a play was staged with one performance aimed specifically at a White audience and advertised as such while also stating that nobody would be excluded, I think it would be as accepted and regarded and treated like the proposed performance on 5 July at the Theatre Royal Stratford East. I think any production that was aimed at an audience of one particular ethnicity and advertised as such would be acceptable, provided no one was excluded because they were of a different ethnicity. Can you twist anything there…?
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Post by Bentley on May 22, 2023 11:49:49 GMT
You’ve done everything but answer the question. I shall try again: If a play was staged with one performance aimed specifically at a White audience and advertised as such while also stating that nobody would be excluded, I think it would be as accepted and regarded and treated like the proposed performance on 5 July at the Theatre Royal Stratford East. I think any production that was aimed at an audience of one particular ethnicity and advertised as such would be acceptable, provided no one was excluded because they were of a different ethnicity. Can you twist anything there…? The problem is that you are avoiding the question again Do you think it would be acceptable for a theatre production to request a white only audience , stating that white people there want to be free from the ‘black gaze ‘but stating the black people can turn up if they like ? There I’ve altered it so that you can’t twist it and claim I did .
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Post by piglet on May 22, 2023 12:09:17 GMT
The strengths of the nordic and germanic tribes was effiency, single mindedness, intelligence, and a will do mind. None of this is apparent today, look at the Braverman silliness, Sunak hasnt got a clue what to do, and lost his best minister, Raab, because of civil servants.
Are we ungovernable?, the blind leading the blind?, Sunak is all at sea, the civil service runs the country. You cant solve a problem unless you understand it, not happening in spades.
The white northern europeans have been abused and villified at every turn for decades now and its getting too much. Blacks insisting on preferential treatment is fuelling something bad, and they want to see it happen.
You cant keep abusing white people, you cant, it breaks their own rules, the rules that only applies to whites not abusing blacks. The governmental culture now is not british, its the anarchic black, southern european asian mess, ably aided by the marxist wokery from America.
Say goodbye to fairness equality, and playing a straight bat. Playing a straight bat went a long time ago. We all know what playing a satraight bat means.
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Post by andrewbrown on May 22, 2023 12:14:11 GMT
The strengths of the nordic and germanic tribes was effiency, single mindedness, intelligence, and a will do mind. None of this is apparent today, look at the Braverman silliness, Sunak hasnt got a clue what to do, and lost his best minister, Raab, because of civil servants. Are we ungovernable?, the blind leading the blind?, Sunak is all at sea, the civil service runs the country. You cant solve a problem unless you understand it, not happening in spades. The white northern europeans have been abused and villified at every turn for decades now and its getting too much. Blacks insisting on preferential treatment is fuelling something bad, and they want to see it happen. You cant keep abusing white people, you cant, it breaks their own rules, the rules that only applies to whites not abusing blacks. The governmental culture now is not british, its the anarchic black, southern european asian mess, ably aided by the marxist wokery from America. Say goodbye to fairness equality, and playing a straight bat. Playing a straight bat went a long time ago. We all know what playing a satraight bat means. I nearly spat my Stella out when you said Raab was his best minister! 😂
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Post by Dan Dare on May 22, 2023 12:32:46 GMT
Getting rid of Raab also conveniently torpedoes his 'Bill of Rights' Bill, which was intended to replace the HRA and eliminate meddling by the European Court of Human Rights in British politics. Raab's Bill of Rights for final chopRishi will be very pleased with himself.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2023 12:35:54 GMT
Until we see people for who they are and not their skin colour,class or whatever we’ll carry on with things like this A worthy criticism of BLM and SJWism in general.
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Post by johnofgwent on Jun 14, 2023 15:08:01 GMT
But you missed out the important information: no one is excluded from attending... That is not relevant. The question is how do you think the likes of Chakrabati would react to reading a flyer for a performance for which it is the INTENT to arrange the audience be entirely white ? You know as well as i she would have the place closed down faster than you could say 'golliwogs in a pub display cabinet' But antoi WHITE recism is disguised by scum like her as "creating a safe space"
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