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Post by colbops on May 21, 2023 16:55:51 GMT
Wrt the original question 'are we [as a society] becoming less northern European', I'd say the answer is definitely 'yes'. Progressives would no doubt counter 'so what?' You should audition to take over presenting duties on Ancient Aliens!
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Post by Dan Dare on May 21, 2023 17:08:05 GMT
I don't see why it should be a controversial statement. Introduce ten million non-Europeans into a northern European country in the space of a couple of generations and, in the cause of inclusivity, modify the way that society is organised and run in order to make them feel as welcome and comfortable as possible, and the outcome is quite predictable, I should have thought.
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Post by colbops on May 21, 2023 17:12:58 GMT
I don't see why it should be a controversial statement. Introduce ten million non-Europeans into a northern European country in the space of a couple of generations and, in the cause of inclusivity, modify the way that society is organised and run in order to make them feel as welcome and comfortable as possible, and the outcome is quite predictable, I should have thought.
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Post by patman post on May 21, 2023 17:13:30 GMT
Has the theatre or production company used the headline or publicity you suggest?
There is, though, what's termed one BLACK OUT performance on Wed 05 Jul, 7.30pm
As part of the run of the show, we will be hosting our first ever BLACK OUT performance on Wed 05 Jul at 7.30pm.
While this performance has been arranged for Black audience members specifically, no one is excluded from attending.
WHAT IS A BLACK OUT? “A BLACK OUT night is the purposeful creation of an environment in which an all-Black-identifying audience can experience and discuss an event in the performing arts, film, and cultural spaces – free from the white gaze.” blackoutnite.com
Originated by Jeremy O. Harris for his play Slave Play, the very first BLACK OUT night took place on Broadway in 2019. The initiative was brought to London during the run of his show Daddy at the Almeida Theatre as he felt it was important for Black theatregoers to be able to experience sitting in a theatre space where the whole audience looks like them.
Director Matthew Xia said "Over the last few years, a number of playwrights and directors in the US and the UK have created private and safe spaces for Black theatre-goers to experience productions that explore complex, nuanced race-related issues. I felt that with a play like TAMBO & BONES which unpicks the complexity of Black performance in relation to the white gaze, it was imperative that we created such a space."
I doubt anyone complaining about this production would be likely to go, as the subject matter is unlikely to interest them. But should they suddenly want to attend, they wouldn't be excluded...
Ok . I’ll ask you . Do you think that this is acceptable or more to the point , be accepted ? WHAT IS A WHITE OUT? “A WHITE OUT night is the purposeful creation of an environment in which an all-white -identifying audience can experience and discuss an event in the performing arts, film, and cultural spaces – free from the black gaze.whitoutnite .com Doesn't matter who is likely to go . OK, so there's no prohibition on anyone attending.
If venues and performers are content they don't contravene any regulation, why shouldn't they be able to explain and stage performances aimed specifically at Asian, Christian, Islamic, Jewish, White, Black, Female, Children, Families or LGBT+, etc, audiences?
Nobody is stopped from attending, but it wouldn't surprise me if some EDL types, who are able to read, might nevertheless go and try to kick up a fuss...
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Post by Pacifico on May 21, 2023 17:13:36 GMT
Well to be fair - practically all Northern European countries are becoming less Northern European.
And all are seeing the negatives that such a policy brings.
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Post by Dan Dare on May 21, 2023 17:15:15 GMT
I don't perceive any connection between my posts here and the video you offer in response. Can you elaborate?
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Post by colbops on May 21, 2023 17:19:06 GMT
I don't perceive any connection between my posts here and the video you offer in response. Can you elaborate? The way you ended your question with "I'd say the answer is definitely 'yes'." reminded me of him, he does that after virtually every question he poses.
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Post by Dan Dare on May 21, 2023 17:23:43 GMT
Oh, right.
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Post by Red Rackham on May 21, 2023 17:27:25 GMT
This is where appeasing minorities and diversity has got us. A theatre has urged white people not to attend a play, arguing that its audience should be “free from the white gaze”. The Theatre Royal Stratford East, in east London, said that white visitors should not come and watch a performance of Tambo & Bones on July 5. Organisers said they are hosting the one-off “Black Out” event to create a “safe, private” space for an “all-black-identifying audience” to explore race-related issues. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/20/tambo-and-bones-theatre-white-black-audiences/What would the reaction be if black people were told not to attend a play because white people want to be 'free from black gaze'. Weak people who are brainwashed with woke are incapable of seeing that diversity is racism. Urged is not the same as being told. Diversity is often a section of the population having to pay attention to their own reduced position in society, their position often being the product of racism. Mind you a racist might attempt to accuse those having to negotiate their way through racism as being the racists. Oh please, stop playing with words. Ref the OP, replace the word white and insert the word black. If a theatre said... ..."Black people are urged not to attend this play because the audience want to be free from the black gaze" You would be happy with that, yes? In your opinion it would not in any way be racist?
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Post by patman post on May 21, 2023 17:45:23 GMT
Urged is not the same as being told. Diversity is often a section of the population having to pay attention to their own reduced position in society, their position often being the product of racism. Mind you a racist might attempt to accuse those having to negotiate their way through racism as being the racists. Oh please, stop playing with words. Ref the OP, replace the word white and insert the word black. If a theatre said... ..."Black people are urged not to attend this play because the audience want to be free from the black gaze" You would be happy with that, yes? In your opinion it would not in any way be racist? Put the words ROY CHUBBY BROWN on a playbill and there'd be no need to urge anyone to go or stay away...
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Post by colbops on May 21, 2023 17:50:51 GMT
Urged is not the same as being told. Diversity is often a section of the population having to pay attention to their own reduced position in society, their position often being the product of racism. Mind you a racist might attempt to accuse those having to negotiate their way through racism as being the racists. Oh please, stop playing with words. Ref the OP, replace the word white and insert the word black. If a theatre said... ..."Black people are urged not to attend this play because the audience want to be free from the black gaze" You would be happy with that, yes? In your opinion it would not in any way be racist? Sure, I think you should do it. I'll be up in your neck of the woods next week. If you get it organised I'll buy a ticket
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Post by Red Rackham on May 21, 2023 17:57:17 GMT
Has the theatre or production company used the headline or publicity you suggest? There is, though, what's termed one BLACK OUT performance on Wed 05 Jul, 7.30pm As part of the run of the show, we will be hosting our first ever BLACK OUT performance on Wed 05 Jul at 7.30pm.
While this performance has been arranged for Black audience members specifically, no one is excluded from attending.
WHAT IS A BLACK OUT? “A BLACK OUT night is the purposeful creation of an environment in which an all-Black-identifying audience can experience and discuss an event in the performing arts, film, and cultural spaces – free from the white gaze.” blackoutnite.com
Originated by Jeremy O. Harris for his play Slave Play, the very first BLACK OUT night took place on Broadway in 2019. The initiative was brought to London during the run of his show Daddy at the Almeida Theatre as he felt it was important for Black theatregoers to be able to experience sitting in a theatre space where the whole audience looks like them.
Director Matthew Xia said "Over the last few years, a number of playwrights and directors in the US and the UK have created private and safe spaces for Black theatre-goers to experience productions that explore complex, nuanced race-related issues. I felt that with a play like TAMBO & BONES which unpicks the complexity of Black performance in relation to the white gaze, it was imperative that we created such a space."
I doubt anyone complaining about this production would be likely to go, as the subject matter is unlikely to interest them. But should they suddenly want to attend, they wouldn't be excluded... Pat, ref the OP. Replace the words 'white' with the words 'black'... ...A theatre has urged black people not to attend a play, arguing that its audience should be “free from the black gaze”.Can you even imagine a theatre publicly saying that ^? You know it would never happen because it's obviously racist. If a theatre said that it would be immediately closed down, during the ensuing riots it would probably be burned to the ground. The inevitable inquiry would conclude that endemic racism was to blame and the racist white majority must thrash themselves and beg forgiveness for their nasty white privilage, again. Pat, believe me when I say diversity is racism. Professor Putnam was correct when he said diversity creates exactly the opposite effect to that which was intended, in short, diversity creates division, reduces social cohesion and breeds resentment.
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Post by Red Rackham on May 21, 2023 17:57:49 GMT
Oh please, stop playing with words. Ref the OP, replace the word white and insert the word black. If a theatre said... ..."Black people are urged not to attend this play because the audience want to be free from the black gaze" You would be happy with that, yes? In your opinion it would not in any way be racist? Put the words ROY CHUBBY BROWN on a playbill and there'd be no need to urge anyone to go or stay away... Stupid comment.
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Post by Red Rackham on May 21, 2023 18:01:16 GMT
Oh please, stop playing with words. Ref the OP, replace the word white and insert the word black. If a theatre said... ..."Black people are urged not to attend this play because the audience want to be free from the black gaze" You would be happy with that, yes? In your opinion it would not in any way be racist? Sure, I think you should do it. I'll be up in your neck of the woods next week. If you get it organised I'll buy a ticket Unless you have anything sensible to say, don't bother me.
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Post by patman post on May 21, 2023 18:10:49 GMT
Put the words ROY CHUBBY BROWN on a playbill and there'd be no need to urge anyone to go or stay away... Stupid comment. Why — do you enjoy his type of racist banter...?
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