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Post by Bentley on May 21, 2023 18:18:43 GMT
Ok . I’ll ask you . Do you think that this is acceptable or more to the point , be accepted ? WHAT IS A WHITE OUT? “A WHITE OUT night is the purposeful creation of an environment in which an all-white -identifying audience can experience and discuss an event in the performing arts, film, and cultural spaces – free from the black gaze.whitoutnite .com Doesn't matter who is likely to go . OK, so there's no prohibition on anyone attending.
If venues and performers are content they don't contravene any regulation, why shouldn't they be able to explain and stage performances aimed specifically at Asian, Christian, Islamic, Jewish, White, Black, Female, Children, Families or LGBT+, etc, audiences?
Nobody is stopped from attending, but it wouldn't surprise me if some EDL types, who are able to read, might nevertheless go and try to kick up a fuss...
I’ll ask you again Do you think this is acceptable and do you think this would be accepted ? WHAT IS A WHITE OUT? “A WHITE OUT night is the purposeful creation of an environment in which an all-white -identifying audience can experience and discuss an event in the performing arts, film, and cultural spaces – free from the black gaze.whitoutnite .com Ill add this too…..”Black theatregoers urged not to attend play aimed at white audiences A theatre in east London says that one-off performance of race satire Tambo & Bones WILL be ‘free from the Black gaze’” |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 21, 2023 18:21:13 GMT
Why — do you enjoy his type of racist banter...? Stop prevaricating ffs. Has any theatre which Chubby Brown performed in told people with a certain skin colour they are not welcome? What are your thoughts about this - - Transport for London openly banning white job applicants. This we are told is diversity, not racism. |
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Post by Bentley on May 21, 2023 18:21:32 GMT
Oh please, stop playing with words. Ref the OP, replace the word white and insert the word black. If a theatre said... ..."Black people are urged not to attend this play because the audience want to be free from the black gaze" You would be happy with that, yes? In your opinion it would not in any way be racist? Put the words ROY CHUBBY BROWN on a playbill and there'd be no need to urge anyone to go or stay away... But “doubt anyone complaining about this production would be likely to go, as the subject matter is unlikely to interest them. But should they suddenly want to attend, they wouldn't be excluded...” and that would make Chubby Brown acceptable, right? |
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Post by patman post on May 21, 2023 18:26:48 GMT
But you missed out the important information: no one is excluded from attending...
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Post by patman post on May 21, 2023 18:28:42 GMT
Put the words ROY CHUBBY BROWN on a playbill and there'd be no need to urge anyone to go or stay away... But “doubt anyone complaining about this production would be likely to go, as the subject matter is unlikely to interest them. But should they suddenly want to attend, they wouldn't be excluded...” and that would make Chubby Brown acceptable, right? Is anybody excluded from RCB's performances...? |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 21, 2023 18:28:50 GMT
But you missed out the important information: no one is excluded from attending... Pat, ref the OP. Replace the words 'white' with the words 'black'... ...A theatre has urged black people not to attend a play, arguing that its audience should be “free from the black gaze”. In your opinion, is that racist? |
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Post by Bentley on May 21, 2023 18:44:11 GMT
But “doubt anyone complaining about this production would be likely to go, as the subject matter is unlikely to interest them. But should they suddenly want to attend, they wouldn't be excluded...” and that would make Chubby Brown acceptable, right? Is anybody excluded from RCB's performances...? Ok I’ll try again. If Wednesday was a ‘no black people night ‘ in a theatre where biack people could attend but were officially not wanted , you would accept that as not bring racist and ( most importantly) that would be accepted, right? |
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Post by Bentley on May 21, 2023 18:45:28 GMT
But you missed out the important information: no one is excluded from attending... Nope. The important information was that white people were not wanted . |
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Post by Bentley on May 21, 2023 18:46:12 GMT
But you missed out the important information: no one is excluded from attending... Pat, ref the OP. Replace the words 'white' with the words 'black'... ...A theatre has urged black people not to attend a play, arguing that its audience should be “free from the black gaze”. In your opinion, is that racist? He’s deliberately dodging the question . |
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Post by patman post on May 21, 2023 18:54:38 GMT
But you missed out the important information: no one is excluded from attending... Pat, ref the OP. Replace the words 'white' with the words 'black'... ...A theatre has urged black people not to attend a play, arguing that its audience should be “free from the black gaze”. In your opinion, is that racist? But in order to get yourself worked up into a tizzy, you are omitting an important part of what the theatre and production company is actually saying, which is: "While this performance has been arranged for Black audience members specifically, no one is excluded from attending".
Selecting a different target audience doesn't alter anything. Whether the scheme is racist or not, has, I would think, been checked out. If someone else brings a complaint, maybe it'll be tested further.
Personally, if I was responsible for any public showing of material that's likely to disturb/offend/upset anyone, I'd give a full warning description of the performance's content's and omit recommendations that suggested the ethnicity of audience members.
But that's me being careful not to attract violence...
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Post by patman post on May 21, 2023 18:57:52 GMT
But you missed out the important information: no one is excluded from attending... Nope. The important information was that white people were not wanted . Nope, you're making that up. The statement actually says: While this performance has been arranged for Black audience members specifically, no one is excluded from attending.
What you infer from that is down to you...
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Post by Bentley on May 21, 2023 19:09:09 GMT
Nope. The important information was that white people were not wanted . Nope, you're making that up. The statement actually says: While this performance has been arranged for Black audience members specifically, no one is excluded from attending.
What you infer from that is down to you...
Nope . You are deliberately ignoring your own post and others A BLACKOUT night is the purposeful creation of an environment in which an all-black -identifying audience can experience and discuss an event in the performing arts, film, and cultural spaces – free from the white gaze.whitoutnite .com Ill add this too…..”WHITE theatregoers urged not to attend play aimed at white audiences A theatre in east London says that one-off performance of race satire Tambo & Bones WILL be ‘free from the white gaze’” Don’t pretend that the stating white people were not welcome ( free from the white gaze) is not racist and would be acceptable if it was reversed to state black people were not welcome . You are being disingenuous . A production “for an all white audience , free from the black gaze “ would not be acceptable , even if it was followed by a weasel worded “ no one is excluded from attending “ and you know it . |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 21, 2023 19:28:27 GMT
Pat, ref the OP. Replace the words 'white' with the words 'black'... ...A theatre has urged black people not to attend a play, arguing that its audience should be “free from the black gaze”. In your opinion, is that racist? But in order to get yourself worked up into a tizzy, you are omitting an important part of what the theatre and production company is actually saying, which is: "While this performance has been arranged for Black audience members specifically, no one is excluded from attending".
Selecting a different target audience doesn't alter anything. Whether the scheme is racist or not, has, I would think, been checked out. If someone else brings a complaint, maybe it'll be tested further.
Personally, if I was responsible for any public showing of material that's likely to disturb/offend/upset anyone, I'd give a full warning description of the performance's content's and omit recommendations that suggested the ethnicity of audience members.
But that's me being careful not to attract violence...
Pat, I assure you I'm not in a 'tizzy'. This situation is the norm, it's what we have become used to. You are not stupid, you know very well that no organisation, company or individual would be allowed to demand/advise/order/request, insert the synonym of your choice, that black people are not welcome, and the reason it would not be allowed is because it would quite obviously be racist. However, if the boot is on the other foot, then all is well, no problem, nothing to see here officer. As I've said many times, in 21st century UK racism is a one way street. |
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Post by wapentake on May 21, 2023 19:45:22 GMT
Until we see people for who they are and not their skin colour,class or whatever we’ll carry on with things like this
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Post by colbops on May 21, 2023 19:46:33 GMT
But in order to get yourself worked up into a tizzy, you are omitting an important part of what the theatre and production company is actually saying, which is: "While this performance has been arranged for Black audience members specifically, no one is excluded from attending".
Selecting a different target audience doesn't alter anything. Whether the scheme is racist or not, has, I would think, been checked out. If someone else brings a complaint, maybe it'll be tested further.
Personally, if I was responsible for any public showing of material that's likely to disturb/offend/upset anyone, I'd give a full warning description of the performance's content's and omit recommendations that suggested the ethnicity of audience members.
But that's me being careful not to attract violence...
Pat, I assure you I'm not in a 'tizzy'. This situation is the norm, it's what we have become used to. You are not stupid, you know very well that no organisation, company or individual would be allowed to demand/advise/order/request, insert the synonym of your choice, that black people are not welcome, and the reason it would not be allowed is because it would quite obviously be racist. However, if the boot is on the other foot, then all is well, no problem, nothing to see here officer. As I've said many times, in 21st century UK racism is a one way street. You won't even try though, how do you know if you don't give it a go? |
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