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Post by sheepy on May 20, 2023 8:22:44 GMT
I already told you what your position is, you moron. Except I know what I'm posting about, and you don't. But thanks for the reminder that I should continue to ignore most of your posts You should ignore me, because you don't have a clue about populism or that some of the brightest people on the planet are populists, you should stay in your own made up world.
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Post by sheepy on May 20, 2023 8:36:33 GMT
In fact, before he died Steven Hawking became a populist.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2023 9:21:08 GMT
Hillarious ... people attempting to use statistics to somehow prove that we are either better off, or that Brexit was a good thing, or that our trade with the Single Market is not really that important.
We are now bottom of the pile amongst leading industrialized countries when it comes to growth
car manufacturers are telling the government to change the rules or we move to the European Union
A government minister last week became a laughing stock by telling the media that we need to "train our own people to pick fruit" ( will that be a 6 week trainning programme ). put out ones hand ... firmly grasp the Raspberry ... pull gently ... put carefully into the basket.
HERE'S A MOTOR INDUSTRY EXPERTS VIEW ------------------------------------
If you spoke to the industry experts, academics, and the companies themselves after the Brexit referendum result, they would tell you very quietly and off the record, that it meant that the British mass industry was a dead man walking.
Now the Stellantis (Vauxhall) car plant at Ellesmere Port is under threat, that is unless the UK government can renegotiate the Brexit trade deal, which let’s face it, the EU has no real reason to do. (Jonty Bloom ) -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Its time now for those that voted LEAVE to now be honest, with themselves, and with those who voted REMAIN, come clean, admit you got it wrong. No one will laugh, people will admire you for having the guts to say "we are now worse off"
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Post by jonksy on May 20, 2023 9:25:45 GMT
Hillarious ... people attempting to use statistics to somehow prove that we are either better off, or that Brexit was a good thing, or that our trade with the Single Market is not really that important. We are now bottom of the pile amongst leading industrialized countries when it comes to growth car manufacturers are telling the government to change the rules or we move to the European Union A government minister last week became a laughing stock by telling the media that we need to "train our own people to pick fruit" ( will that be a 6 week trainning programme ). put out ones hand ... firmly grasp the Raspberry ... pull gently ... put carefully into the basket. HERE'S A MOTOR INDUSTRY EXPERTS VIEW ------------------------------------ If you spoke to the industry experts, academics, and the companies themselves after the Brexit referendum result, they would tell you very quietly and off the record, that it meant that the British mass industry was a dead man walking. Now the Stellantis (Vauxhall) car plant at Ellesmere Port is under threat, that is unless the UK government can renegotiate the Brexit trade deal, which let’s face it, the EU has no real reason to do. (Jonty Bloom ) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Its time now for those that voted LEAVE to now be honest, with themselves, and with those who voted REMAIN, come clean, admit you got it wrong. No one will laugh, people will admire you for having the guts to say "we are now worse off" More fiddler TOTAL BOLLOCKS. When are you lot going to apologise for being rabid loosing arseholes?
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2023 9:45:05 GMT
Hillarious ... people attempting to use statistics to somehow prove that we are either better off, or that Brexit was a good thing, or that our trade with the Single Market is not really that important. We are now bottom of the pile amongst leading industrialized countries when it comes to growth car manufacturers are telling the government to change the rules or we move to the European Union A government minister last week became a laughing stock by telling the media that we need to "train our own people to pick fruit" ( will that be a 6 week trainning programme ). put out ones hand ... firmly grasp the Raspberry ... pull gently ... put carefully into the basket. HERE'S A MOTOR INDUSTRY EXPERTS VIEW ------------------------------------ If you spoke to the industry experts, academics, and the companies themselves after the Brexit referendum result, they would tell you very quietly and off the record, that it meant that the British mass industry was a dead man walking. Now the Stellantis (Vauxhall) car plant at Ellesmere Port is under threat, that is unless the UK government can renegotiate the Brexit trade deal, which let’s face it, the EU has no real reason to do. (Jonty Bloom ) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Its time now for those that voted LEAVE to now be honest, with themselves, and with those who voted REMAIN, come clean, admit you got it wrong. No one will laugh, people will admire you for having the guts to say "we are now worse off" More fiddler TOTAL BOLLOCKS. When are you lot going to apologise for being rabid loosing arseholes? We are not rabid "loosing" ( losing ) arseholes, we have well and truly won the argument We are now worse off, even the Tory government admits it, even Nigel Farage admits it, and if the referendum was run again tomorrow, REJOIN or REMAIN would win by a much wider margin than that which LEAVE won by 7 years ago. Below is a list of benefits of leaving the European Union
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Post by jonksy on May 20, 2023 9:49:27 GMT
More fiddler TOTAL BOLLOCKS. When are you lot going to apologise for being rabid loosing arseholes? We are not rabid "loosing" ( losing ) arseholes, we have well and truly won the argument We are now worse off, even the Tory government admits it, even Nigel Farage admits it, and if the referendum was run again tomorrow, REJOIN or REMAIN would win by a much wider margin than that which LEAVE won by 7 years ago. Below is a list of benefits of leaving the European Union Just another lefty ringpiece talking BOLLOCKS
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2023 10:10:49 GMT
It hasn't failed it was sabotaged, our remoaner Europhiles have made sure of that, a cross party plot to sabotage progress, that's not including the EU who have been hellbent on putting obstacles in our way at every turn. So its everyone else's fault but yours? Fact is you and a few million other blithering idiots are the ones directly responsible for the shit show we have now. Most of the so called remoaners predicted this sorry state of affairs and were accused of scaremongering when they did so, even though 99% of economists were on their side. But you blithering idiots chose to believe a bunch of lies and fairy tales, and are too arrogant yet pig ignorant to recognise the harm you voted for. But some who voted your way have at least recognised they were conned and have changed their minds, as many as one in five leave voters already.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2023 10:12:53 GMT
Look at the ONS Pink Book data and a very different story emerges. GDP gains from exports are going extremely well. But exports to the outside world are only 25% of GDP. 75% of our trade is internal. And that's not Brexit at play, that's government incompetence and a failure to capitalise on the benefits of Brexit. So Brexit itself is not the problem, it is everyone else for not doing it right? And you lot are the only sensible ones? Talk about fucking delusional and in denial. lol
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2023 10:15:13 GMT
You know what, I wish I could have sabotaged it before it had happened rather than afterwards. But then you are not the brightest spark in the box or the most democratic being a little Hitler type. And that comment is supposed to be showcasing your intelligence, is it? Hate to tell you this but it is not working very well.
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Post by Vinny on May 20, 2023 10:22:33 GMT
Look at the ONS Pink Book data and a very different story emerges. GDP gains from exports are going extremely well. But exports to the outside world are only 25% of GDP. 75% of our trade is internal. And that's not Brexit at play, that's government incompetence and a failure to capitalise on the benefits of Brexit. So Brexit itself is not the problem, it is everyone else for not doing it right? And you lot are the only sensible ones? Talk about fucking delusional and in denial. lol Brexit is not a problem at all. What is a problem is the fucking invasion of Ukraine. That has resulted in food price inflation as Ukraine is one of the biggest suppliers of food to the world market, in Europe and reduced supplies from there have impacted market prices.
Also, the necessary sanctions against Russia, a major oil producer have resulted in fuel prices going up. And that means the cost of logistics has gone up.
Brexit is not a problem.
Had we stayed in the EU food inflation and logistics costs and energy prices would still have gone up. And you'd still be grumbling.
Europhiles are using Brexit as a scapegoat. The real problems in the world they cannot do anything about. They pretend everything would have been lovely if only we'd stayed.
It wouldn't.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2023 10:28:17 GMT
So Brexit itself is not the problem, it is everyone else for not doing it right? And you lot are the only sensible ones? Talk about fucking delusional and in denial. lol Brexit is not a problem at all.
Of course it isn't.
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Post by Vinny on May 20, 2023 10:34:08 GMT
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Post by om15 on May 20, 2023 10:46:29 GMT
I think that the point is being deliberately missed here, the actual event of Brexit was not a mistake, the failure that Farage has spoken about refers to the Conservative Government failing to using the new Brexit opportunities to our benefit. We had that walking traitoress disaster Mrs May saying one thing and trying to stitch us up with the EU, then we had the bombastic buffoon Boris saying one thing and doing something else, the next PM was quickly and undemocratically dispatched by the Tory establishment and the current bloke shoe horned in place without any form of democratic action. That is the failure, not the decision to leave the EU, that was correct and in time will prove to be good for this country. The Tories don't want Brexit and have impeded it every step of the way whilst telling us they weren't, they deserve to be chucked out into the wilderness next election.
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Post by Dan Dare on May 20, 2023 10:59:34 GMT
As one commentator noted this morning, the hunt for culprits is reaching a frenzied pitch:
"...The exit deal was signed, sealed and pushed through parliament by one of their own, Boris Johnson, and a conviction Brexiter is in Downing Street now, in the form of Rishi Sunak. So there has to be someone else to blame, other shadowy forces who betrayed the cause.
Some point to Sunak himself, aided by Kemi Badenoch, who this month halted the planned shredding of thousands of EU-tainted regulations. For others, it’s the Blob or the “remoaner elite”, made up of the civil service, the BBC, the universities, the unions: anyone who, along with desperate refugees in small boats, can be blamed for standing between Britain and the promised Brexit nirvana."
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Post by Vinny on May 20, 2023 11:07:55 GMT
I think that the point is being deliberately missed here, the actual event of Brexit was not a mistake, the failure that Farage has spoken about refers to the Conservative Government failing to using the new Brexit opportunities to our benefit. We had that walking traitoress disaster Mrs May saying one thing and trying to stitch us up with the EU, then we had the bombastic buffoon Boris saying one thing and doing something else, the next PM was quickly and undemocratically dispatched by the Tory establishment and the current bloke shoe horned in place without any form of democratic action. That is the failure, not the decision to leave the EU, that was correct and in time will prove to be good for this country. The Tories don't want Brexit and have impeded it every step of the way whilst telling us they weren't, they deserve to be chucked out into the wilderness next election. You've got it.
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