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Post by see2 on May 16, 2023 15:40:27 GMT
The legacy left from the last Labour government ^^^ ha ha, the desperate grasping at straws by someone who believes Tory propaganda. Failing to understand that the overrated Tories have been failing for the last 70 years, lol |
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Post by see2 on May 16, 2023 15:41:35 GMT
So, how long does your lot "need" to fix it? Sometimes things are broken beyond repair, the damage is done. By the Tories. |
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Post by see2 on May 16, 2023 15:48:26 GMT
Blair single handed has destroyed the NHS, he made sure it flatlined. Stupid comment by someone who has no idea of just how bad a state the NHS was in, in 1997. A ridiculous state mostly due to Thatcher. Your political knowledge gets 10 out of 10 for PURE BIAS, and f/all for political knowledge. Incidentally there was a 25% cut in NHS funding from 2010. |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 16, 2023 15:49:05 GMT
Sometimes things are broken beyond repair, the damage is done. By the Tories. The Tories have not covered themselves in glory, that's for sure. But they didn't open the immigration floodgates either. |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 16, 2023 15:55:58 GMT
Blair single handed has destroyed the NHS, he made sure it flatlined. Stupid comment by someone who has no idea of just how bad a state the NHS was in, in 1997. A ridiculous state mostly due to Thatcher. Your political knowledge gets 10 out of 10 for PURE BIAS, and f/all for political knowledge. Incidentally there was a 25% cut in NHS funding from 2010. The reason the NHS and indeed social infrastructure is crumbling in this country is because the UK population in 1997 was 58 million. Today in 2023 the UK population is 69 million, and thanks to immigration continues to rise at an alarming rate. |
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Post by see2 on May 16, 2023 15:56:41 GMT
The NHS was in a lot better condition when the Tories came into power, they immediately cut funding. Was that not a coalition? I suppose if you initiate PFI schemes and boast about how many hospitals have been built then it seems churlish to point out that someone else has to pick up the tab further down the line. The 2010 government was very clearly Tory dominated one. There was no real trouble for PFIs before the INTERNATIONAL FINANCIAL MELTDOWN!. Even so it is exceedingly churlish to attempt to excuse 13 years of Tory mismanagement for no other reason than the fact that you are biased and feel the need to do so. |
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Post by see2 on May 16, 2023 16:05:57 GMT
The Tories have not covered themselves in glory, that's for sure. But they didn't open the immigration floodgates either. NOR did Labour in any real sense. Increased immigration enabled growth to continue, right now emigration has slowed growth with industry and many services calling for more immigration. A comment on TV tonight claimed that £60,000 worth of food had to be destroyed last year because of the absence of those who would have brought in the crops etc. The meltdown proved to be the problem, not the migration. |
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Post by see2 on May 16, 2023 16:14:17 GMT
Blair did not initiate PFI, Major did, get the facts straight. Blair should have put an end to it but he did not. Having said that the NHS was in a better position than when the Tories came into power. Work it out Sherlock, when the Tories came in to power Blair's fuck up of the NHS was only just filtering through, but Blair already knew he'd tied the hands of successive governments, he didn't need a crystal ball to know that Labour was NOT going to win 2010 GE, so Blair didn't give a fuck about his long lasting legacy.
The Tories can't undo his fuck-up, that's why your GP service and the NHS is now on its knees .............. Cheers Blair... hope you are enjoying your private health care.
The fuck up as you idiotically put it, was the IFM which absolutely NO ONE FORCAST so stop your stupid totally false insinuated lies about Blair, used in your pathetic attempt to get the well overated Tories out of the shit they created. |
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Post by see2 on May 16, 2023 16:16:27 GMT
13 years of lefties crying... Priceless!  70 years of lying rightest failure, sickening. |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 16, 2023 16:18:33 GMT
The Tories have not covered themselves in glory, that's for sure. But they didn't open the immigration floodgates either. NOR did Labour in any real sense. Increased immigration enabled growth to continue, right now emigration has slowed growth with industry and many services calling for more immigration. A comment on TV tonight claimed that £60,000 worth of food had to be destroyed last year because of the absence of those who would have brought in the crops etc. The meltdown proved to be the problem, not the migration. ! Tell me, how did Blair not, 'in any real sense', open the immigration floodgates? |
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Post by Toreador on May 16, 2023 16:33:21 GMT
immigration up. Living standards down. Pay down. Life expectancy down. Food banks up. NHS waiting lists up. Child poverty up. Homelessness up. Rents up. Mortgages up. Taxes up. Social care availability down. Racism up. Social services down. School funding down. NHS funding down. Food prices up. Petrol prices up. Millionaires up. Houses down. Pot holes up. Pubs down. Cost of living up. Social housing down. Scams up. Jails down. Rail on strike. Nurses on strike. Doctors on strike. Lawyers on strike. Teachers on strike. Libraries down. Fraud up. Prison sentence down. Air quality down. Green initiatives down. Effluent in rivers up. Culture wars up. Crime up. Unsolved crimes up. Mental issues up. Hate crimes up. Street trash up. Union sentiment down. Border checks down. Small boats up. Gerrymandering up. Hate speech up. Hospital waiting lists up. Asylum seekers processing time up. Spending on asylum seekers up. Citizen freedom down. Exports down. Sleaze up. Working people claiming benefits up. Useless PPE stocks up. Cost to store useless PPE up. I have probably missed a load off. Common denominator? And Red Rum gloats. |
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Post by Toreador on May 16, 2023 16:42:53 GMT
The legacy left from the last Labour government ^^^ ha ha, the desperate grasping at straws by someone who believes Tory propaganda. Failing to understand that the overrated Tories have been failing for the last 70 years, lol I think this thread has given you a new home, make sure the roof doesn't collapse. Vote for Reform UK, they're better than anything else on offer. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2023 16:45:44 GMT
So, what have the Tories achieved in 13 years then? If you're not going with the OP list, my guess is "nothing". 😂 Can't you read?
Watch my lips..
How can the Tories undo a act of Parliament that Blair had made air tight>?
It doesn't matter if the Tories are in power for 113 years, Blair made it so successive governments (including his own) could not get out of them, without a legal battle, which they would lose anyway.
Stop asking the same question over and over again, because you can't grasp or understand the response.
Any act of parliament, no matter how 'air tight it is, can be undone if the majority of MPs vote for it, that's democracy. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2023 16:48:00 GMT
Events of the last 16 years. 2007, financial crash government bail out of banks, national debt surged. 2010 Coalition Government entered office with national debt at 74.6% of GDP. By 2012 Coalition Government was spending £43bn a year, just on trying to service the debt. 2014 Ukraine under attack. Crimea stolen. War in Donbas starts. Food supplies in Europe start to be affected. 2015 Labour refuse to hold referendum on EU membership and it sinks them. 2016 things start changing for the better. UK voted for independence from EU. 2017 first budget surplus in years. 2020 UK left EU, just before global pandemic hit. LOCKDOWNS. FURLOUGH PAYMENTS. National debt soared. 2022 War in Ukraine. Heavy sanctions against Russia. Fuel costs impacted. European food supplies reduced due to production in the very agricultural country being disrupted. High inflation as a legacy of Covid debts and war problems hit hard around the world. None of those things impacted on the NHS, social care, policing......... before they happened, they happened because the Tories decided to cut them. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2023 16:51:14 GMT
My God, you are fixated with asylum seekers and small boats. Immigration has always been a benefit to this country. Millions do not come across the channel and other countries do not need to detain those that do. Are you related to Braverman? Are you totally deranged? The UK birth rate continues to fall, the UK population continues to rise, go figure. This is causing society to fragmentate, communities to become isolated, and creates a lack of trust. You as a devout lefty will of course rubbish this, to be expected. Millions are not, as you say coming into this country you are using the fear tactics of the Tories. If the birth rate is falling are you advocating people should be forced to have babies. If we need more people to work in our sectors we must 'import' them. |
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