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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2023 9:22:20 GMT
Your genitalia are predetermined at conception despite the early embryo having both male and female equipment one set is prevented from fully developing, it's why you have nipples. Agreed, but does your genitalia define your sexuality? Are you your penis? It seems some men are, like if their name is Boris. |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2023 9:23:06 GMT
Well, the infant probably understood it better than you. You see, sex is a man and a woman. That's the binary. Sexuality doesn't make any difference, because it doesn't change sex. Certainly that is your infantile view. Infants are correct, in this instance. |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2023 9:23:40 GMT
Certainly that is your infantile view. It is biological fact. Homosexuality, bisexuality and heterosexuality are merely sexual preferences. None of which changes the biological fact that sex is a man and a woman. The only infantile view is your own, which could be the result of your own psychological problems. Sexual preference is a biological fact as well. If it were not homosexuality would not exist. |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2023 9:36:18 GMT
It is biological fact. Homosexuality, bisexuality and heterosexuality are merely sexual preferences. None of which changes the biological fact that sex is a man and a woman. The only infantile view is your own, which could be the result of your own psychological problems. Sexual preference is a biological fact as well. If it were not homosexuality would not exist. It's actually uncertain because there's no clear mechanism at work, but since this is a different topic then OK. Homo comes from homos, which means the same. Homosexuality is same sex attraction. Note the same sex part. |
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Post by Orac on May 14, 2023 9:51:05 GMT
You appear to be going around in circles looking for a door. The point i'm making is that binary nature of sex is not an arbitrary artifact of culture or tradition, it's rather a biological fact. Sex is a biological system that employs two variants ..hence binary Only because you insist sex is determined by your genitalia. Like were were just reproductive organs on legs. We will never agree on that, but as you always do you assume you are right and I am trying to escape your indisputable logic. Even if I personally insisted genitalia and sex are entirely unrelated, the reality would still be that sex is a biological system the employs a binary distinction (male and female) Similarly, if i imagine that Saturn doesn't orbit the Sun, it will happily continue doing so without my permission or knowledge. Your language (genitalia on legs) seems almost hysterical to me. Humans are biological organisms rather than brains in jars or personality abstracts in a computer system and so biological facts are quite important to human society |
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Post by zanygame on May 14, 2023 10:57:36 GMT
Well there you go, no need to debate then. Not when you're too infantile to accept biological fact and literally push arguments where it's a matter of choice if a male wants to get pregnant. Making shit up again? That's why your not worth arguing with. |
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Post by zanygame on May 14, 2023 11:03:07 GMT
Only because you insist sex is determined by your genitalia. Like were were just reproductive organs on legs. We will never agree on that, but as you always do you assume you are right and I am trying to escape your indisputable logic. Even if I personally insisted genitalia and sex are entirely unrelated, the reality would still be that sex is a biological system the employs a binary distinction (male and female) Similarly, if i imagine that Saturn doesn't orbit the Sun, it will happily continue doing so without my permission or knowledge. Your language (genitalia on legs) seems almost hysterical to me. Humans are biological organisms rather than brains in jars or personality abstracts in a computer system and so biological facts are quite important to human society You seem to have moved the argument from what determines a humans sexuality, such as can someone be LGBTQ. To what does it take to reproduce. For me reproduction is not what my sexuality is about, for you sadly it is. |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2023 11:05:47 GMT
Not when you're too infantile to accept biological fact and literally push arguments where it's a matter of choice if a male wants to get pregnant. Making shit up again? That's why your not worth arguing with. Like I suggested earlier, these are your own psychological problems which motivates you to troll like a spoilt child rather than accept the obvious fact that you are wrong.
I merely inverted your nonsense:
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Post by Toreador on May 14, 2023 11:31:35 GMT
Is your sex your genitalia and your ability to sire/have children? Or is it your sexual attraction? Can you have a penis and be attracted to men or is this a lifestyle choice. If it became fashionable could you switch to fancying men? Imagine those bearded lips brushing across your pale skin? . Try mainly parental conditioning |
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Post by zanygame on May 14, 2023 11:49:26 GMT
Making shit up again? That's why your not worth arguing with. Like I suggested earlier, these are your own psychological problems which motivates you to troll like a spoilt child rather than accept the obvious fact that you are wrong.
I merely inverted your nonsense:
Without realising the woman CAN physically have babies and might decide not to for reasons of sexual orientation. Whereas men cannot. Thus telling a lie about what I said. And then adding insults about my past with no prior knowledge. But then when it comes down to it, its all you have. |
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Post by zanygame on May 14, 2023 11:53:55 GMT
Is your sex your genitalia and your ability to sire/have children? Or is it your sexual attraction? Can you have a penis and be attracted to men or is this a lifestyle choice. If it became fashionable could you switch to fancying men? Imagine those bearded lips brushing across your pale skin? . Try mainly parental conditioning There is nothing on this planet that could make me want to have sex with men. What kind of conditioning are you thinking of? Maybe the sort that was used for years to try and convert Gay men back to "Normal" Perhaps Electric shock therapy of psychiatric drugs or good old beatings. you are old enough to have seen it in practice, how did it go? |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2023 11:56:07 GMT
You're all over the place and have clearly lost the plot. You appear to be going around in circles looking for a door. The point i'm making is that binary nature of sex is not an arbitrary artifact of culture or tradition, it's rather a biological fact. Sex is a biological system that employs two variants ..hence binary Only because you insist sex is determined by your genitalia. Like were were just reproductive organs on legs. We will never agree on that, but as you always do you assume you are right and I am trying to escape your indisputable logic. Everything I discussed revolved around your idiotic argument.
Now run along and cry because meanie B-4 won't accept that biological sex can be prayed away.
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Post by Orac on May 14, 2023 11:58:59 GMT
Even if I personally insisted genitalia and sex are entirely unrelated, the reality would still be that sex is a biological system the employs a binary distinction (male and female) Similarly, if i imagine that Saturn doesn't orbit the Sun, it will happily continue doing so without my permission or knowledge. Your language (genitalia on legs) seems almost hysterical to me. Humans are biological organisms rather than brains in jars or personality abstracts in a computer system and so biological facts are quite important to human society You seem to have moved the argument from what determines a humans sexuality, such as can someone be LGBTQ. To what does it take to reproduce. For me reproduction is not what my sexuality is about, for you sadly it is. My argument hasn't moved anywhere. A fool made the contention that the male-female sex binary was somehow a matter of arbitrary tradition or culture. I'm just pointing out that this binary is in reality a functional fact - similar to the fact that an eye is an organ whose function is to allow an organism to detect light. |
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Post by zanygame on May 14, 2023 12:00:42 GMT
You seem to have moved the argument from what determines a humans sexuality, such as can someone be LGBTQ. To what does it take to reproduce. For me reproduction is not what my sexuality is about, for you sadly it is. My argument hasn't moved anywhere. A fool made the contention that the male-female sex binary was somehow a matter of arbitrary tradition or culture. I'm just pointing out that this binary is in reality a functional fact - similar to the fact that an eye is an organ whose function is to allow an organism to detect light. Assuming you think sex is an organism to produce babies. |
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Post by Toreador on May 14, 2023 12:02:14 GMT
. Try mainly parental conditioning There is nothing on this planet that could make me want to have sex with men. What kind of conditioning are you thinking of? Maybe the sort that was used for years to try and convert Gay men back to "Normal" Perhaps Electric shock therapy of psychiatric drugs or good old beatings. you are old enough to have seen it in practice, how did it go? |I may be old enough but I never saw it in practice other than an aunt of mine who looked, dressed like like one, lived with an ex-married woman for life and I could trace that to her upbringing; where do you think the tern "Mummy's boy" came from? |
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