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Post by thomas on May 8, 2023 14:53:09 GMT
The King!
Formally known for the most honourable role as the Prince of Wales.
*wipes tear.
Bloody Germans.  im not sure my mate b4 understands the significance of who the saxe coburg gothas are. |
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Post by Montegriffo on May 8, 2023 15:00:50 GMT
We English are retaking Aquitaine one house at a time. The local supermarket near my own little hovel (not too far from the scene of yet another glorious victory at Poitiers) has a whole aisle of English foods such as Marmite, cheddar cheese, baked beans, marmalade etc the demand is so high and you are almost as likely to overhear English being spoken as French. unsurprising , as areas such as the dordogne have been known as little england for years. We have family in France ,friends in the north , family in the south , and english being spoken , wether the british english of the anglo saxon reitrees in dordogne , or the american english the young french kids use sometimes is not unusual.
you never really owned aquitaine though in the first place mate. The french owned you remember? 1066 and all that , french language introduced and 300 years of french speaking english kings that produced the half french we speak today , before the descednants of the original french setllers in england lost their lands in the mother country as you were kicked out by us and the french.
Fuck sake even your house of lords , as an echo of that earlier time , still uses norman french in its opening ceremony , and its was only in cromwells times that english law was first permitted to be written in the backward english tongue instead of the beauty of the romance language that is Francais.
The Normans weren't French. They were an occupying force of Danes. More Anglo-Saxon than Celt. |
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Post by Montegriffo on May 8, 2023 15:08:25 GMT
Henry IV (1399-1413) was the first English speaking monarch, as a first language, but from 1362 (under Edward III) English was the only language permitted in a court of law and from 1363 the majority of discussions in the parliamentary Commons had to be conducted in English.
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Post by thomas on May 8, 2023 15:10:58 GMT
unsurprising , as areas such as the dordogne have been known as little england for years. We have family in France ,friends in the north , family in the south , and english being spoken , wether the british english of the anglo saxon reitrees in dordogne , or the american english the young french kids use sometimes is not unusual.
you never really owned aquitaine though in the first place mate. The french owned you remember? 1066 and all that , french language introduced and 300 years of french speaking english kings that produced the half french we speak today , before the descednants of the original french setllers in england lost their lands in the mother country as you were kicked out by us and the french.
Fuck sake even your house of lords , as an echo of that earlier time , still uses norman french in its opening ceremony , and its was only in cromwells times that english law was first permitted to be written in the backward english tongue instead of the beauty of the romance language that is Francais.
The Normans weren't French. They were an occupying force of Danes. More Anglo-Saxon than Celt. dont talk cac monte. 
The norman french force that invaded england in 1066 , estimated at some 30 000 strong from what i mind , was made up largely of french (frankish) , a smaller amount of celtic bretons , and flemish warriors. A few of the leaders had viking blood , but were born in france , and spoke french .
Fuck sake robert the bruce ancestor came over with them , and his family came from near cherbourg , with others being picards. I know you hate the french monte , but really , this is reality denial.
Didnt i read nottingham was known in english as snotengaham , and the french thought the english peasants so uncouth they made them change the name to nottingham?
The anglo saxons mate are like the vikings , a modern made up name for varous different groups of people who didnt use the name in the contemporary period , lived in mud huts , and brewed warm beer before being conquered by the danes and french.
Fuck sake scottish kings like wullie the lion was so impressed with the french conquerors of england he learned french , and historians wrote became more french than the norman french.
I think the hundred years war was nothing more than the anglo saxon peasants being jealous of french wine french food and french weather . On top of that , when londoners wanted to build a shed down the allotment in the 12th century , they had to travel over to poitiers to ask permission from their french king.
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Post by thomas on May 8, 2023 15:13:13 GMT
Henry IV (1399-1413) was the first English speaking monarch, as a first language, but from 1362 (under Edward III) English was the only language permitted in a court of law and from 1363 the majority of discussions in the parliamentary Commons had to be conducted in English. the language he spoke is classed today as middle english. If you look at the history of oxford university , they have old records of the anglo saxon( old english) language rights movement from the 14th century where the native english , and celtic cornish , refused to learn this half french new english , but eventually the hybrid french language won out.
The native english didnt see it as their language.
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Post by Montegriffo on May 8, 2023 15:42:42 GMT
The Normans weren't French. They were an occupying force of Danes. More Anglo-Saxon than Celt. dont talk cac monte.
The norman french force that invaded england in 1066 , estimated at some 30 000 strong from what i mind , was made up largely of french (frankish) , a smaller amount of celtic bretons , and flemish warriors. A few of the leaders had viking blood , but were born in france , and spoke french .
Fuck sake robert the bruce ancestor came over with them , and his family came from near cherbourg , with others being picards. I know you hate the french monte , but really , this is reality denial.
Didnt i read nottingham was known in english as snotengaham , and the french thought the english peasnats so uncouth they made them change the name to nottingham?
The anglo saxons mate are like the vikings , a modern made up name for varous different groups of people who didnt use the name in the contemporary period , lived in mud huts , and brewed warm beer before being conquered by the danes and french.
Fuck sake scottish kings like wullie the lion was so impressed with the french conquerors of england he learned french , and historians wrote became more french than the norman french.
I think the hundred years war was nothing more than the anglo saxon peasants being jealous of french wine french food and french weather . On top of that , when londoenrs wanted to build a ched down the allotment in the 12th century , they had to travel over to poitiers to ask permission from their french king.
No need for ugly words like hate. I don't hate the French any more than I hate the Germans. Got to respect them both, they both had a few goes at trying to wrestle hegemony from us (post 1701) and despite failing they both tried again. You have to admire their pluck if nothing else. The French btw were so impressed with Henry VIII's banquets at the Field of Gold of Cloth tournaments in Calais they took his whole kitchen staff back to France with them to teach François I's own staff how to cook. |
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Post by walterpaisley on May 8, 2023 16:15:36 GMT
Just back from Wales (via a break in Shrewsbury..).
Can't say I saw any more, or less, Coronation - related activity than anywhere else.
There was something going on in Barmouth yesterday (a few of our party went there), but even that seemed pretty low key.
I'd have to conclude, based on what I've seen, that the Coronation was probably very popular - but was largely celebrated in people's own homes.
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Post by Montegriffo on May 8, 2023 16:18:38 GMT
Just back from Wales (via a break in Shrewsbury..). Can't say I saw any more, or less, Coronation - related activity than anywhere else. There was something going on in Barmouth yesterday (a few of our party went there), but even that seemed pretty low key. I'd have to conclude, based on what I've seen, that the Coronation was probably very popular - but was largely celebrated in people's own homes. No Coronation Quiche then? |
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Post by walterpaisley on May 8, 2023 16:25:30 GMT
Afraid not.
Our hotel's cooks put on an excellent barbecue for us on Saturday night (veggie and carni'), but I don't recall being bothered with any quiche.
No "Coronation theme", either.
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Post by Montegriffo on May 8, 2023 16:35:17 GMT
In the words of Bruce Feirstein, ''real men don't eat quiche''.
Egg and bacon flan maybe but not quiche.
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Post by thomas on May 8, 2023 16:58:07 GMT
dont talk cac monte.
The norman french force that invaded england in 1066 , estimated at some 30 000 strong from what i mind , was made up largely of french (frankish) , a smaller amount of celtic bretons , and flemish warriors. A few of the leaders had viking blood , but were born in france , and spoke french .
Fuck sake robert the bruce ancestor came over with them , and his family came from near cherbourg , with others being picards. I know you hate the french monte , but really , this is reality denial.
Didnt i read nottingham was known in english as snotengaham , and the french thought the english peasnats so uncouth they made them change the name to nottingham?
The anglo saxons mate are like the vikings , a modern made up name for varous different groups of people who didnt use the name in the contemporary period , lived in mud huts , and brewed warm beer before being conquered by the danes and french.
Fuck sake scottish kings like wullie the lion was so impressed with the french conquerors of england he learned french , and historians wrote became more french than the norman french.
I think the hundred years war was nothing more than the anglo saxon peasants being jealous of french wine french food and french weather . On top of that , when londoenrs wanted to build a ched down the allotment in the 12th century , they had to travel over to poitiers to ask permission from their french king.
No need for ugly words like hate. I don't hate the French any more than I hate the Germans. Got to respect them both, they both had a few goes at trying to wrestle hegemony from us (post 1701) and despite failing they both tried again. You have to admire their pluck if nothing else. The French btw were so impressed with Henry VIII's banquets at the Field of Gold of Cloth tournaments in Calais they took his whole kitchen staff back to France with them to teach François I's own staff how to cook. lol.
the germans are your cousins mate. Your ancestors came from caves in the harttz mountains , and when you sailed over to blighty , the welsh taught you how to make fire.
Seriously though , look up historical english characters like ranulph higden and the polychronichon. Ranulph wrote in the 14 th century about how any englishman worth his salt had to learn french to get on in life , or make his standing in english society better thought of , and it had bee nthat way since the french first came to england in 1066.
The cornish cleric celtic speaker , john of trevisa , also led an english language rights movement and famously said "many of us know the old english , but noe of us speak this new english " in reference to what we now call middle english . Its why today 45 % of english is norman french ,with less than 28 % of the language actually native english.
i cant believe that mate. Im sorry , but you arent telling me a country that is known for the worst cuisine in europe , eats jellied eels , pork scratching and drink warm ale could possibly teach the sophisticated french anything about cuisine. Remember in henry the 8ths time calais was full of flemish. Like yourselves and your cousins in ze fatherland , none of your are known for your cuisine.
When we think of fine spirits , fine wines , great beers and sophiticiated dining , we think of the european greats like scotland , France , italy and one or two others , even ze germans with their maginifcent beer making. Unfrotunately , when their cousins left angeln and saxony to make the sea trip to blighty in the 5th century onwards ,they seemed to have lost the art of beer making , while us scots and irish had to educate you and teach you christianity and to walk on two legs.
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Post by thomas on May 8, 2023 17:00:46 GMT
Just back from Wales (via a break in Shrewsbury..). Can't say I saw any more, or less, Coronation - related activity than anywhere else. There was something going on in Barmouth yesterday (a few of our party went there), but even that seemed pretty low key. I'd have to conclude, based on what I've seen, that the Coronation was probably very popular - but was largely celebrated in people's own homes. No Coronation Quiche then? Ah! the french quiche. from the east of modern day france. What more evidence do you need monte , the englishman always looks to france for sophisticated ways?
Fuck sake , you never hear the french say , lets have a republique jellied eel.
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Post by thomas on May 8, 2023 17:05:57 GMT
In the words of Bruce Feirstein, ''real men don't eat quiche''. Egg and bacon flan maybe but not quiche. ah! the italian flan.
what about bangers and mash monte? |
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Post by Montegriffo on May 8, 2023 17:07:16 GMT
No Coronation Quiche then? Ah! the french quiche. from the east of modern day france. What more evidence do you need monte , the englishman always looks to france for sophisticated ways?
Fuck sake , you never hear the french say , lets have a republique jellied eel.
We call it flan here in the land of the Iceni. |
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Post by Montegriffo on May 8, 2023 17:11:08 GMT
In the words of Bruce Feirstein, ''real men don't eat quiche''. Egg and bacon flan maybe but not quiche. ah! the italian flan.
what about bangers and mash monte? What about Beef Wellington? I'm sure that goes down well with the Gauls. |
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