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Post by sheepy on May 9, 2023 6:13:15 GMT
Bristol doesn't have a high population of Muslims, so your first claim has been exposed as a lie. There were always counter-protests, and they would throw glass bottles and rocks at the EDL and the police.
The EDL didn't cause the violence, vandalism or the riots. They were a legitimate protest group which those you do support attacked with violence because you're intolerant of anyone you disagree with having the right to protest, as proven by your very posts.
You are against people you disagree with having rights, whilst insisting that only those you agree with should have rights. It's incredibly moronic of you to insist that those you disagree with should be denied Human Rights whilst accusing them of bigotry.
Still, if calling people names is all you have then I guess you're just very upset because the EDL were successful in disrupting the racist grooming gangs and exposed the media and government silence, which led to some action being taken.
The EDL did a good job of bringing the establishment into disrepute for one of its many cover ups, thinking the establishment would never have them taken down for it, was and is a pipe dream. |
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Post by buccaneer on May 9, 2023 6:21:21 GMT
how about putting the buggers on road repair duties? Yep. In high vis jackets with "I'm doing community service for you" emblazoned on the back in black print. |
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Post by sheepy on May 9, 2023 6:40:04 GMT
sandypine >> Then you have to ask why does violence occur so routinely and the answer is easy to see and occasionally reported accurately. Antifa are committed to violent opposition to those they deem fascist, there is no debate as regards who they so label, they are the sole arbiters of who is fascist and who they attack. They are aided by sister groups.
I can recall there was a march in Bristol where the EDL were opposed by many groups and violence flared and even the BBC had to admit that a group of Asians had crept around the EDL and attacked them with stones, bottles and dustbins. In other marches, Stoke I believe, Antifa broke through police lines and started throwing bricks at the EDL crowd. As a side word during the BLM statues day there was a white man attacked at Waterloo station by a group of black men who accused him of being EDL. The papers were full of how a black man saved him from the crowd. Not a whisper about the racial attack or that his life was in danger from that attack which made it attempted murder and no charges forthcoming as far as I am aware. Pictures tell stories but actual events are often more informative.
If the EDL are in breach of the law it is the police that deal with it and if these sites and actions are in breach of teh law why are so few charges brought despite many people like yourself endlessly complaining. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------This is how the EDL worked - firstly, they chose an area with a high population of Muslims, secondly they bus in hundreds of supporters to a protest or demonstration. In every instance, the vast majority of people in the places they chose did not want the EDL there, they did not want their marches, their protests or their demonstrations. This was the case in Bradford, Blackburn, Burnley, the West Midlands, Newcastle, London and everywhere else. If these were LOCAL protests by local people with genuine grievences, then perhaps I could understand - but they never were, the EDL had to bring in protesters from all over the country to their mass brawls, booze-ups and bust-ups. In many instances there were no counter protests, and in other instances the counter protests were kept well apart by the police. Chicken or Egg ? - If the EDL had not proposed or organised a demonstration in the first instance, then there would be no counter protest from groups opposing the EDL. Wherever the EDL went, they caused violence, disruption, vandalism, riots, and in the towns they chose to protest, no one wanted them there. The only word to describe the EDL is "scum", a bunch of bigoted, racist low lives with low intelligence, who's origins are in soccer hooligans, skinheads and lager louts. So speaks the voice of the establishment Sydney. Who especially didn't like them. So much so, they ended up as you say scum. But on the other hand the government had to show willing in doing something about the cover ups. Which has stuck in your masters crops ever since. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2023 10:18:55 GMT
OH dear, it looks like some people have been a bit quick to allude that Labour will not repeal the 'lock on' legislation, should have waited a bit.
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Post by thomas on May 9, 2023 10:23:49 GMT
OH dear, it looks like some people have been a bit quick to allude that Labour will not repeal the 'lock on' legislation, should have waited a bit. waffle. Nandy has said labour would repeal parts of it. After such a damaging few days for starmer on tuition fees and protests , clearly labour are panicking and had to do something with the severe stick they are coming in for , and have sent out dizzy lizzy to undo much damage.
Opinion polling must be hitting home.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2023 13:43:06 GMT
OH dear, it looks like some people have been a bit quick to allude that Labour will not repeal the 'lock on' legislation, should have waited a bit. waffle. Nandy has said labour would repeal parts of it. After such a damaging few days for starmer on tuition fees and protests , clearly labour are panicking and had to do something with the severe stick they are coming in for , and have sent out dizzy lizzy to undo much damage.
Opinion polling must be hitting home.
More info on this has just come out. 😂 |
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Post by thomas on May 9, 2023 13:44:38 GMT
waffle. Nandy has said labour would repeal parts of it. After such a damaging few days for starmer on tuition fees and protests , clearly labour are panicking and had to do something with the severe stick they are coming in for , and have sent out dizzy lizzy to undo much damage.
Opinion polling must be hitting home.
More info on this has just come out. 😂 What ? That labour have panicked after the bollocking they have been given over social media the last few days?
Who can trust a liar? According to the polls , fewer and fewer .
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2023 9:33:54 GMT
More info on this has just come out. 😂 What ? That labour have panicked after the bollocking they have been given over social media the last few days?
Who can trust a liar? According to the polls , fewer and fewer .
Clarification, isn't that what we all want? They will not repeal the whole bill, that would not make sense and there are some good points to it but basic rights for the people will be restored. Or do you agree that the police can veto any protest? |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2023 10:44:21 GMT
Or do you agree that the police can veto any protest? If the protesters are breaking the law, then yes.
Standing in the road to prevent society carrying on with their business = breaking the law. Throwing paint at business' = breaking the law. Putting themselves and others in danger = breaking the law. Attempting to startle horses which could lead to death = breaking the law.
Doctors and Nurses in the NHS protest within the law and defined human rights, so I am sure the police won't get involved in their protest over wages.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 10, 2023 11:00:56 GMT
I think it's obvious, he will support violence from the far-left, because it suits Labour to do so, whilst accusing his enemies of violence. He will accuse EVERYONE of racism, without further explanation, even when people are protesting the racial abuse that the Labour government and Labour councils ignored for years. Obviously we have blasphemy laws in this country that are a win-win for Islamism and the far-left, which the police act upon. They call it anti-fascism, but what they really mean is that they will violently attack anyone they disagree with then insist that authority deny those they disagree with the right to protest.
They're as intolerant and illiberal as the Islamists.
I think the worst of it is that he actually believes that the moral choices are his to make and if he believes a person must be cancelled for what Sid knows that person believes then that is only just and right, Freedom and rights are there to be used to give freedom and rights to the people who deserve those freedoms and rights, others are undeserving. His own words tell the tale and he cannot see it. Voltaire is spinning in his grave. Sid is another fascist who doesn't realise it.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2023 13:05:50 GMT
Or do you agree that the police can veto any protest? If the protesters are breaking the law, then yes.
Standing in the road to prevent society carrying on with their business = breaking the law. Throwing paint at business' = breaking the law. Putting themselves and others in danger = breaking the law. Attempting to startle horses which could lead to death = breaking the law.
Doctors and Nurses in the NHS protest within the law and defined human rights, so I am sure the police won't get involved in their protest over wages.
Do you not understand that the 'peaceful' methods have been tried and ignored by our elite class, who appear not to be bothered that continuing to pollute our world leads only one way. |
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Post by Fairsociety on May 10, 2023 13:17:55 GMT
If the protesters are breaking the law, then yes.
Standing in the road to prevent society carrying on with their business = breaking the law. Throwing paint at business' = breaking the law. Putting themselves and others in danger = breaking the law. Attempting to startle horses which could lead to death = breaking the law.
Doctors and Nurses in the NHS protest within the law and defined human rights, so I am sure the police won't get involved in their protest over wages.
Do you not understand that the 'peaceful' methods have been tried and ignored by our elite class, who appear not to be bothered that continuing to pollute our world leads only one way. Oh, so now you are advocating violence, no wonder society is losing its moral fiber. |
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Post by see2 on May 10, 2023 14:22:46 GMT
OH dear, it looks like some people have been a bit quick to allude that Labour will not repeal the 'lock on' legislation, should have waited a bit. waffle. Nandy has said labour would repeal parts of it. After such a damaging few days for starmer on tuition fees and protests , clearly labour are panicking and had to do something with the severe stick they are coming in for , and have sent out dizzy lizzy to undo much damage.
Opinion polling must be hitting home.
Tuition fees, so still plugging that lie without proof, tut tut. |
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Post by see2 on May 10, 2023 14:27:26 GMT
Not before time . Maybe the protesters will now find more legitamate targets of protest than the public who quite frankly have had enough of them. At this rate the Left will have done so much damage that nobody will be able to protest.
They violently attack protests they disagree with.
They demand government ban protests they disagree with.
They intentionally break the law and undermine protest rights. They protest over things that are basically moronic and just to piss off the general public. If your use of the word "they" means 'the left' you will have some difficulty in proving your 'broad brush' approach. |
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Post by see2 on May 10, 2023 14:33:22 GMT
I think the worst of it is that he actually believes that the moral choices are his to make and if he believes a person must be cancelled for what Sid knows that person believes then that is only just and right, Freedom and rights are there to be used to give freedom and rights to the people who deserve those freedoms and rights, others are undeserving. His own words tell the tale and he cannot see it. Voltaire is spinning in his grave. Sid is another fascist who doesn't realise it.
It seems increasingly common on the left and still there are people who believe that fascism is right wing. LIAR !! Fascism is right-wing. It is about the superiority of a race of people and their way of life, the opposite is the far Left which is about taking control and spreading it through a certain political way of life. Clean your disgraceful act up, take a look at the real world. |
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