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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 9, 2023 9:54:37 GMT
They were complaining like hell they did not get a groundbreaking discovery. After that I mentioned the graphene transistor, but it was totally ignored as I had expected. It is why I refused to carry on with examples initially. They either think up a reason to put it down or ignore. I find it difficult to understand this mentality. Even the Saudis are getting into science. They have broken the world record for the most efficiency solar cell. 50% better than current technology. I missed the post on Graphene transistors. Didn't know China had invented them. I thought they were invented in the UK? I remember reading about the discovery made at Manchester university? Manchester only invented the substance, but despite a brand spanking new graphene research lab built after the discovery they do not seem to have invented anything else. Bloody wasters. Besides it was a Russian who invented it in his lunch break. The Brits working in the lab are not so smart. |
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Post by Dan Dare on May 9, 2023 10:06:16 GMT
According to Charles Murray, the last notable Chinese invention was movable type in AD1045, reinvented by Gutenberg in 1440.
Since then, nothing.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 9, 2023 10:41:32 GMT
According to Charles Murray, the last notable Chinese invention was movable type in AD1045, reinvented by Gutenberg in 1440. Since then, nothing. What does notable mean? |
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Post by Dan Dare on May 9, 2023 10:52:45 GMT
Notable enough to feature in Murray's 'Human Accomplishment'.
Actually Murray indicates that China did enjoy a purple patch for inventions while Europe was still in the Dark Ages. Prior to movable type they invented the abacus, the sternpost rudder, paper for writing, gunpowder, the stirrup and locks for canals.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 9, 2023 11:20:24 GMT
Notable enough to feature in Murray's 'Human Accomplishment'. Actually Murray indicates that China did enjoy a purple patch for inventions while Europe was still in the Dark Ages. Prior to movable type they invented the abacus, the sternpost rudder, paper for writing, gunpowder, the stirrup and locks for canals. He's a far-right political 'scientist' and worked in Thailand, so how would he find it worthy of making a note? Discoveries these days are often beyond the reach of the British intellect. I've done some threads on the now deleted forum showing you lot some of the developments, but it was way too complicated for anyone to understand on here. You talk about paper, gun powder etc, because these are things we all understand and often use. There may well be a groundbreaking discovery in science that is say in the form of an equation. See how many equations they publish in the New York Times etc. The spastics only think there was ever one equation, and that is E = mc^2 because the man who did it needed funding so he elected to act a fool for more public funding to be channelled into his research group. He even has to make up some stupid sayings about god to do it and stick his tongue out for a photo.
One day the Brits will be so stupid it will be like the time they met the Africans in the jungle and these Africans thought things like electricity were some sort of magic, like those who had never seen an electric lightbulb before. This is what they will experience one day themselves if they were to go to China. Things will have moved on so far it will look like magic. For example, they would be most surprised to ring a taxi and find out it is a flying antonymous car where they instruct it through an AI interface. China has just started on the legislation needed to design the flightpaths for these new cars. It's not science fiction but actually happening. In Blighty it is just another day and another strike, another protest, another shooting, another bitch. We aint moving forwards at all. Our growth is zero to negative.
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Post by Dan Dare on May 9, 2023 11:54:40 GMT
You might find your arguments gwould ain more traction and win over more supporters if you didn't feel the need to impugn the intelligence and integrity of those you are interacting with.
Additionally, Chinese achievements should be able to stand on their own merits and should not need to be contrasted with what you perceive as the failings of other societies.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 10, 2023 1:48:34 GMT
You might find your arguments gwould ain more traction and win over more supporters if you didn't feel the need to impugn the intelligence and integrity of those you are interacting with. Additionally, Chinese achievements should be able to stand on their own merits and should not need to be contrasted with what you perceive as the failings of other societies. Well as luck would have it I've just relocated a documentary that got wiped out on Youtube, so if you want to see it then grab it before it disappears again. I'm sick of this bullshit on China. I would rather look at the problem and face it. Here is the problem, set out in meticulous detail. You can follow it step by step and see how the story develops when a British genius presents his invention to the military who, well you've guessed it, have military thinking. Unsurprising you may say, but lets take a detailed look at how this approach pans out.
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Post by Pacifico on May 10, 2023 6:35:28 GMT
The biggest problem with the Jet engine was the decision to give the technology away to the US and Russia.
Although at the time I can understand giving it to the US. Letting the Russians have it was criminal though.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 10, 2023 12:17:16 GMT
The biggest problem with the Jet engine was the decision to give the technology away to the US and Russia. Although at the time I can understand giving it to the US. Letting the Russians have it was criminal though. What I got from that documentary was it was not just one fuckup, it was fuckups from the moment he got involved with the top brass. The chaps lower down looked OK, like the man who helped him patent it. Perhaps this military thinking erodes the intelligence so by the time they make it to the top they have none at all and are utterly corrupt. Anyway, it is a mistake we have made countless times. A good invention comes along until it turns into a military issue. Mind you it is not just the military but top brass from say firms like Rolls Royce. Anything that touches the military from industry get a bit affected. recent example was micro jet engines, invented in Oxford, said a the time by Rolls Royce to be "impossible". They are on the market and have been for a few years now. |
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Post by Vinny on May 11, 2023 10:20:34 GMT
The biggest problem with the Jet engine was the decision to give the technology away to the US and Russia. Although at the time I can understand giving it to the US. Letting the Russians have it was criminal though. What do you expect from Labour? |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 11, 2023 11:26:03 GMT
The simple explanation is they were bunch of stupid bastards then and they are a bunch of stupid bastards now, as is the tradition of the British military. The best the rest of us can do is try not to emulate them.
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Post by besoeker3 on May 11, 2023 12:20:56 GMT
The simple explanation is they were bunch of stupid bastards then and they are a bunch of stupid bastards now, as is the tradition of the British military. The best the rest of us can do is try not to emulate them. So can you offer an explanation as to why they are so incompetent? How exactly could you fix it? |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 11, 2023 12:42:09 GMT
The simple explanation is they were bunch of stupid bastards then and they are a bunch of stupid bastards now, as is the tradition of the British military. The best the rest of us can do is try not to emulate them. So can you offer an explanation as to why they are so incompetent? How exactly could you fix it? I think it is almost impossible to fix, as per it is a cultural problem. Remember News of the World? They were a bunch of utterly corrupt bastards as well. There was only one solution there and that was to shut the entire thing down. Similar cultural problems exist in the BBC and in the police. You can't fire just the head. You just get the next one in line as the last. |
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Post by Dan Dare on May 11, 2023 12:57:06 GMT
Some bedtime reading for the Baron:
Not all just a story of incompetence, indolence and wastage.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 11, 2023 14:01:13 GMT
I see you are kind of catching my drift. I would like to contrast that last video i posted with a different kind of thinking. Personally i would say this is the kind of thinking our industry had in the 19th century, and it kind of bleeds into the 20th century Britain in places but I would say it was already tailing off at the time the jet engine was invented. He had come from the old world. His father was an engineer.
I understand the drones were originally developed by the UK military, or at least the very first drones I saw were UK military research drones. Naturally they were used for the military due to military thinking. I'd like to call the thinking in this next video capitalist thinking. Capitalism in the UK was born from science. Science was a kind of aristocratic pursuit. Engineering was the middle class exploiting it for profit.
By the way, two points to note. Firstly the channel is great and has all the latest inventions if you wish to follow it, and the other thing is I keep on recognising things from the music they have here as lifted from various British music, even the old rave thing. Well at least we are appreciated for something!
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