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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 5, 2023 13:29:34 GMT
Why, because you are too lazy to look.
Solar telescropes aren't new, they're old technology and there are several of them around the world, but I don't think any of them are going to be as powerful as the telescopes we put in space, because our atmosphere is always going to disrupt their use. That said, this is certainly a feat of engineering and something to be applauded but I'd hardly say it's the kind of innovation that is going to change our lives forever, ya know? Compare it to some very obvious inventions in recent years, such as Flat screen TV's, the Microwave, the Cellphone - things which have changed the majority of peoples life on the planet. China is not only not in the same ball park, it's not even in the same league when it comes to western inventions and innovation. Which is why the stereotype of a 'cheap chinese knock off' comes from - stereotypes exist for a reason, the Chinese long have a reputation for taking a western product, making a cheap copy that performs worse than the origonal. OK well that was just one thing on the national broadcaster on the day the question was raised. See if you can find anything better in terms of UK inventions in the UK press news today. This is not a one off. Things are invented and records are broken in China on a regular basis. And for your information the atmosphere is wavelength selective in its absorption. It's to do with the quantum energy transition levels in the gasses. You could look in the gaps. |
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Post by besoeker3 on May 5, 2023 14:29:08 GMT
OK. How about you provide one Chinese invention in the last six months? Be specific and precise. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 5, 2023 21:00:55 GMT
OK. How about you provide one Chinese invention in the last six months? Be specific and precise. I'd say greater than 2.2 million in the last 6m. You pick the one you want to tell me is rubbish. I can't be bothered listing millions of patents.
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Post by besoeker3 on May 5, 2023 21:15:20 GMT
OK. How about you provide one Chinese invention in the last six months? Be specific and precise. I'd say greater than 2.2 million in the last 6m. You pick the one you want to tell me is rubbish. I can't be bothered listing millions of patents.
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Post by besoeker3 on May 5, 2023 21:30:11 GMT
OK. How about you provide one Chinese invention in the last six months? Be specific and precise. I'd say greater than 2.2 million in the last 6m. You pick the one you want to tell me is rubbish. I can't be bothered listing millions of patents.
Fine. So why can't you cite one specific example? |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 5, 2023 23:21:17 GMT
I'd say greater than 2.2 million in the last 6m. You pick the one you want to tell me is rubbish. I can't be bothered listing millions of patents.
Fine. So why can't you cite one specific example? Because you are dragging this thread off-topic. Do it yourself. |
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Post by Tinculin on May 6, 2023 8:50:19 GMT
I mean, why is it so hard to name a single world changing invention that’s come out of China in modern history then?
I gave you 3 from the USA in recent history that have fundamentally changed our world.
If China is so awesome, name something, or anything which is on par with a microwave, flatscreen tv or your mobile phones?
And that’s before we start talking about reusable rocket boosters, online payments like PayPal and whatever else Musk is gonna dream up next.
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Post by besoeker3 on May 6, 2023 8:50:31 GMT
Fine. So why can't you cite one specific example? Because you are dragging this thread off-topic. Do it yourself. So you can't. No surprise there. |
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Post by zanygame on May 6, 2023 9:49:47 GMT
Most of Chinas patents are for common problem solving devices, rather than world stunning inventions.
Things like a sonic cleaning device you add to your washing. Or a printable flexiscreen.
Are these trivial, only the purchaser can decide.
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Post by Dan Dare on May 6, 2023 10:36:59 GMT
Some people may recall a long-running thread in the old place where we discussed 20 inventions (or discoveries) made since the beginning of the 20th century that have been instrumental in creating the modern world. 1. The stored-program computer 2. Television 3. Nuclear fission 4. Structure of DNA 5. Penicillin 6. Radar 7. Jet engine 8. TCP/IP 9. High-yielding cereals 10. Radio 11. Ethernet 12. The tractor 13. DDT 14. Synthetic nitrogen fertilisers 15. The internet (WWW) 16. Self-propelled combine harvester 17. Powered flight 18. The Pill 19. Ethernet 20. Cellular phone None are from China. I asked the Baron to propose a Chinese alternative(s) but he declined the challenge.
PS Just noticed Ethernet appears twice, so there's a slot available for a similarly world-changing Chinese invention or discovery if the Baron (or anyone else) can come up with one.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 6, 2023 11:28:36 GMT
Some people may recall a long-running thread in the old place where we discussed 20 inventions (or discoveries) made since the beginning of the 20th century that have been instrumental in creating the modern world. 1. The stored-program computer 2. Television 3. Nuclear fission 4. Structure of DNA 5. Penicillin 6. Radar 7. Jet engine 8. TCP/IP 9. High-yielding cereals 10. Radio 11. Ethernet 12. The tractor 13. DDT 14. Synthetic nitrogen fertilisers 15. The internet (WWW) 16. Self-propelled combine harvester 17. Powered flight 18. The Pill 19. Ethernet 20. Cellular phone None are from China. I asked the Baron to propose a Chinese alternative(s) but he declined the challenge.
PS Just noticed Ethernet appears twice, so there's a slot available for a similarly world-changing Chinese invention or discovery if the Baron (or anyone else) can come up with one.
None of those are in the last 10 years. Take the date of each one and then look at what was going on in China at the time. One day you can figure it out yourself rather than be influenced by propaganda. Those are 'has been' successes. The Greeks could equally claim they invented maths. |
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Post by Dan Dare on May 6, 2023 11:42:35 GMT
Well, what has happened in China in the last ten years that merits inclusion in the list. Remembered we are looking for inventions and discoveries that 'shaped the modern world'.
Go for it.
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Post by besoeker3 on May 6, 2023 12:29:31 GMT
None of those are in the last 10 years. Take the date of each one and then look at what was going on in China at the time. One day you can figure it out yourself rather than be influenced by propaganda. Those are 'has been' successes. The Greeks could equally claim they invented maths. So what specifically is China doing right now since you seem to be their Ambassador ? |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 6, 2023 12:43:08 GMT
None of those are in the last 10 years. Take the date of each one and then look at what was going on in China at the time. One day you can figure it out yourself rather than be influenced by propaganda. Those are 'has been' successes. The Greeks could equally claim they invented maths. So what specifically is China doing right now since you seem to be their Ambassador ? Building and designing the Long March 9 and 10.
If you stopped taking after the stupid wallies who think the rest or the world live in the jungle without running water, you might find it interesting.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 6, 2023 12:51:32 GMT
Most of Chinas patents are for common problem solving devices, rather than world stunning inventions. Things like a sonic cleaning device you add to your washing. Or a printable flexiscreen. Are these trivial, only the purchaser can decide. You aught to look at Dyson's patent applications. Most get refused as too obvious and too trivial. |
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