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Post by distant on May 6, 2023 16:14:45 GMT
Are you going to swear an oath to support the King next week?? Maybe if someone was holding a gun to my head. In normal circumstances, not a cat in Hell's chance.
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Post by johnofgwent on May 20, 2023 16:51:35 GMT
The oath of allegiance to the reigning Monarch hundreds of years ago was compulsory on their Coronation day , in fact if you refused you could be executed those days have long gone, in 1953 when the late Queen Elizabeth 11 was crowned Prince Phillip took the oath to serve her on his knees in front of her in Westminster Abbey, Prince William will do the same to his Dad the King this weekend. Lots of people taken the Oath to the reigning Monarch even Politicians, those that object to doing so can take a different oath, "In general, this oath is sworn to the Crown, monarch, sovereign, or regent, as represented by the incumbent king or queen, currently Charles III. This oath also specifies that this same oath to the king, is equally sworn to his "heirs and successors", in the plural, rather than a single heir and successor. This indicates that any oath given to the king is equally given to William, Prince of Wales, Prince George, and all of his heirs and successors to the British throne, in the event that any one of them should accede to the throne. Thus, the pledge of loyalty to the Crown made in the oath does not end at the death of the current monarch. This oath to the king, his heirs and successors is now administered in citizen ceremonies to immigrants becoming naturalized British subjects. Members of the judiciary (justices of the peace, district judges, circuit judges etc.) swear their allegiance to the king, and to his heirs and successors; police officers in England and Wales pledge their allegiance to the king, but not his heirs and successors. Members of the Northern Ireland Assembly and the Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI) do not swear an oath of allegiance. The PSNI in 2001 replaced the Royal Ulster Constabulary, whose members pledged their allegiance to the King, but not his heirs and successors. The Scottish police have never pledged allegiance. Members of the Privy Council only swear allegiance to the "King's majesty", not to the king's heirs and successors." There are a number of others that do Someone at Lambeth Palace the Archbishops residence got mixed up sent out a wrong message, nobody is forced to swear allegiance to Kings Charles at the weekend it was not an order or request by Charles 111 , what he sent out is an " Invite " to do so if you so wish the decision is yours I lost track of this thread otherwise i would have raised this sooner. I think it was Tony Benn who proposed replacing the Parliamentary Oath to the Sovereign, which used to be an absolute requirement without which an elected member could not take their seat, speak or receive their salary, with an oath of allegiance to Parliament itself. Apart from as you have mentioned an alternate affirmation i do nit think anything much cane of Benn’s idea.
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