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Post by thomas on May 1, 2023 12:19:37 GMT
anyone who disagrees with new labour and their vacuous followers like you and sid are of course according to you politically biased.
I dont always agree with steve( srb) and his politics , but he does have starmer and new new labour down to a tee.
Extremely politically biased posts from yourself, prove the high level of your political bias. i am extremely biased against labour , just as you are extremely biased for labour. Whats the problem?
Are you trying to laughably present everyone else as biased while you are implying yourself as some impartial commentator? 
Thats the trouble with labour and their dimwitted supporters. They think everyone around them is more dumb than they are.
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Post by Bentley on May 1, 2023 12:19:50 GMT
Remainers used the project fear strategy, claiming that the sky will fall in immediately after a vote to leave. What they should of said is that remainers in the UK establishment will adopt a strategy of undermining any attempt to make a post Brexit UK work . Even though SOME may have claimed that the "sky will fall in immediately after a vote to leave" the term "Project fear" was used by Brexit voters in order to avoid answering reasonable concerns raised by people concerned about possible pit-falls caused by a Brexit vote. The so called "strategy of undermining any attempt to make a post Brexit UK work" is similarly used as an excuse by some who voted for Brexit, for the troubled and anticipated by some, start for Brexit. SOME said that we Brexit would release hundreds of millions of pounds to be invested in the NHS. Do we dismiss this claim as easy as you dismiss the claim by remainers that that the sky will fall in immediately after a vote to leave. In fact can we use this method to dismiss any claim that we don’t like? I think the resistance by remainers to Brexit is palpable . Your attempt to deny it is risible. |
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Post by thomas on May 1, 2023 12:24:03 GMT
Even though SOME may have claimed that the "sky will fall in immediately after a vote to leave" the term "Project fear" was used by Brexit voters in order to avoid answering reasonable concerns raised by people concerned about possible pit-falls caused by a Brexit vote. The so called "strategy of undermining any attempt to make a post Brexit UK work" is similarly used as an excuse by some who voted for Brexit, for the troubled and anticipated by some, start for Brexit. SOME said that we Brexit would release hundreds of millions of pounds to be invested in the NHS. Do we dismiss this claim as easy as you dismiss the claim by remainers that that the sky will fall in immediately after a vote to leave. In fact can we use this method to dismiss any claim that we don’t like? I think the resistance by remainers to Brexit is palpable . Your attempt to deny it is risible. Alec salmond as you know was and remains a staunch pro european , and even he in 2016 told cameron and the remain camp uk wide to tone down the project fear as it was over the top.
The arguments for staying in the EU have been “at best puerile and at worst outlandish scaremongering”, according to Alex Salmond.
Speaking in Brussels, the former First Minister will demand a more positive campaign for remaining in the EU, saying, “the Prime Minister should reboot the Remain campaign away from Project Fear MK 2”
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Post by see2 on May 1, 2023 12:25:19 GMT
Extremely politically biased posts from yourself, prove the high level of your political bias. i am extremely biased against labour , just as you are extremely biased for labour. Whats the problem?
Are you trying to laughably present everyone else as biased while you are implying yourself as some impartial commentator?
Thats the trouble with labour and their dimwitted supporters. They think everyone around them is more dumb than they are.
1. Your question insinuates a lie. 2. Silly question, I can and do accept the good that comes from the highly overrated Tories. 3. Your comment IS exactly you! |
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Post by thomas on May 1, 2023 12:27:05 GMT
i am extremely biased against labour , just as you are extremely biased for labour. Whats the problem?
Are you trying to laughably present everyone else as biased while you are implying yourself as some impartial commentator?
Thats the trouble with labour and their dimwitted supporters. They think everyone around them is more dumb than they are.
1. Your question insinuates a lie. 2. Silly question, I can and do accept the good that comes from the highly overrated Tories. 3. Your comment IS exactly you! 1. what lie?
2. im not a tory voter. Why tell me what you like about the tories? Although im not surprised you do being a red tory.
3. my comment was about you and your sublime stupidity.
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Post by Montegriffo on May 1, 2023 12:29:49 GMT
Are you saying ''you lost, get over it''? Some might call that an inconsistent position for you to hold. no im saying whatever bitterness and unfairness you have from losing the brexit ref , you need to move on and try and elect a party on a rejoin mandate rather than carrying on raking over the coals of defeat forevermore. But even if successful we'll never return to the sweet deal we had before. Rejoining the single market is the best result we can hope for now. We shot ourselves in the foot and we'll never get all our toes back. |
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Post by see2 on May 1, 2023 12:36:09 GMT
SOME said that we Brexit would release hundreds of millions of pounds to be invested in the NHS. Do we dismiss this claim as easy as you dismiss the claim by remainers that that the sky will fall in immediately after a vote to leave. In fact can we use this method to dismiss any claim that we don’t like? I think the resistance by remainers to Brexit is palpable . Your attempt to deny it is risible. Alec salmond as you know was and remains a staunch pro european , and even he in 2016 told cameron and the remain camp uk wide to tone down the project fear as it was over the top.
The arguments for staying in the EU have been “at best puerile and at worst outlandish scaremongering”, according to Alex Salmond.
Speaking in Brussels, the former First Minister will demand a more positive campaign for remaining in the EU, saying, “the Prime Minister should reboot the Remain campaign away from Project Fear MK 2”
Alex Salmond the epitome of unbiased political opinions I voted remain because of the underlying weaknesses of the UK at that time, AND the obvious concerns over the Irish border. It wouldn't surprise me if many Brexit voters didn't even stop to think about such. Cameron and Co. NEVER spoke for me, but they did give many Brexit voters a whinge to hide behind. |
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Post by Bentley on May 1, 2023 12:36:27 GMT
no im saying whatever bitterness and unfairness you have from losing the brexit ref , you need to move on and try and elect a party on a rejoin mandate rather than carrying on raking over the coals of defeat forevermore. But even if successful we'll never return to the sweet deal we had before. Rejoining the single market is the best result we can hope for now. We shot ourselves in the foot and we'll never get all our toes back. A marriage with a controlling spouse has some advantages . Instead of looking back we should look forward . Singapore by the Thames was ruled out by an over enthusiastic Liz Truss. So we need leaders with imagination , character and resolve . That’s us fucked then .😳 |
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Post by see2 on May 1, 2023 12:47:30 GMT
1. Your question insinuates a lie. 2. Silly question, I can and do accept the good that comes from the highly overrated Tories. 3. Your comment IS exactly you! 1. what lie?
2. im not a tory voter. Why tell me what you like about the tories? Although im not surprised you do being a red tory.
3. my comment was about you and your sublime stupidity.
Your post has just reminded me why I stopped commenting on your posts. 1. That I am extremely biased for Labour. I am partial New Labour, but I voted Tory in the last election. 2. I was making the point that I am not so biased that I refuse to acknowledge the good done by a Tory government. That really should not have required an explanation. 3. I know what you meant, but you actually proved, as with your post above, that you were actually revealing your true self. BYE. |
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Post by thomas on May 1, 2023 12:54:57 GMT
no im saying whatever bitterness and unfairness you have from losing the brexit ref , you need to move on and try and elect a party on a rejoin mandate rather than carrying on raking over the coals of defeat forevermore. But even if successful we'll never return to the sweet deal we had before. Rejoining the single market is the best result we can hope for now. We shot ourselves in the foot and we'll never get all our toes back. whatever you aim for and however you do it , if its done by starmers underhanded back door tactics of lies , then this island will go up in smoke.
England certainly will never attain the difficult child humoured by the european members position it enjoyed before , i agree , but scotland has other options so there is no we in this monte.
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Post by thomas on May 1, 2023 12:55:41 GMT
Alec salmond as you know was and remains a staunch pro european , and even he in 2016 told cameron and the remain camp uk wide to tone down the project fear as it was over the top.
The arguments for staying in the EU have been “at best puerile and at worst outlandish scaremongering”, according to Alex Salmond.
Speaking in Brussels, the former First Minister will demand a more positive campaign for remaining in the EU, saying, “the Prime Minister should reboot the Remain campaign away from Project Fear MK 2”
Alex Salmond the epitome of unbiased political opinions I voted remain because of the underlying weaknesses of the UK at that time, AND the obvious concerns over the Irish border. It wouldn't surprise me if many Brexit voters didn't even stop to think about such. Cameron and Co. NEVER spoke for me, but they did give many Brexit voters a whinge to hide behind. do you miss the point of every post you reply to deliberately ? |
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Post by Bentley on May 1, 2023 12:57:50 GMT
Alex Salmond the epitome of unbiased political opinions I voted remain because of the underlying weaknesses of the UK at that time, AND the obvious concerns over the Irish border. It wouldn't surprise me if many Brexit voters didn't even stop to think about such. Cameron and Co. NEVER spoke for me, but they did give many Brexit voters a whinge to hide behind. do you miss the point of every post you reply to deliberately ? It’s ALWAYS personal with see2. If you don’t agree with him you are either deluded or deranged . |
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Post by thomas on May 1, 2023 12:59:00 GMT
1. what lie?
2. im not a tory voter. Why tell me what you like about the tories? Although im not surprised you do being a red tory.
3. my comment was about you and your sublime stupidity.
Your post has just reminded me why I stopped commenting on your posts. 1. That I am extremely biased for Labour. I am partial New Labour, but I voted Tory in the last election. 2. I was making the point that I am not so biased that I refuse to acknowledge the good done by a Tory government. That really should not have required an explanation. 3. I know what you meant, but you actually proved, as with your post above, that you were actually revealing your true self. BYE. i must have missed where i twisted your arm up your back and forced you to reply to me.
1. That isnt a lie. You are extremely biased for labour. You are a red tory as i said.( not to mention ive pissed myself laughing at you enabling the brexit you say you hate )
2. you are a red tory. How does polishing tory turds make you unbiased ?
3. so you agree you are sublimely stupid? That at least merits a mention of honesty , however rare in your posts.
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Post by Montegriffo on May 1, 2023 12:59:09 GMT
But even if successful we'll never return to the sweet deal we had before. Rejoining the single market is the best result we can hope for now. We shot ourselves in the foot and we'll never get all our toes back. whatever you aim for and however you do it , if its done by starmers underhanded back door tactics of lies , then this island will go up in smoke.
England certainly will never attain the difficult child humoured by the european members position it enjoyed before , i agree , but scotland has other options so there is no we in this monte.
It's my understanding that Scotland doesn't have the GDP to debt ratio required to meet the conditions of EU membership. The only way you return is as a part of the UK. |
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Post by thomas on May 1, 2023 13:02:20 GMT
do you miss the point of every post you reply to deliberately ? It’s ALWAYS personal with see2. If you don’t agree with him you are either deluded or deranged . as i said up the thread , name calling might make him feel better about his poor quality posting , but it does nothing for his political stance .
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